Juddian:
Carryfast:
Juddian:
Plenty of Astras about, some Range Rovers, not a lot else of use to the old bill made here, Toyota don’t make a fast enough estate car for Traffic use, ditto Nissans Sunderland semi Renault stuff.
Can’t see Jags in service lasting like Volvos or BMWs.
Not as it matters any more, Patriotism is now a dirty word last used with pride in the 80s except when it comes to sport, those at the very top don’t put Britain first indeed they sold and gave away our national wealth/pride and our country without a shot being fired, why should anyone else bother.
Sooner the place goes bankrupt the better, British publics apathy might actually get woken up when the benefit cheques bounce and the lights go out.
Ironically it’s that mistaken idea that a BMW or Volvo would last longer than a Jag in service,wether in the Leyland days or now,that helped to put the place where it is today.From the emergency vehicle point of view it’s usually been the case that the same amount of money would buy a faster Jag than it would in the case of a BMW let alone a Volvo with no evidence that Jags won’t survive as long as those types.
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Unfortunately in the Leyland days when quality hit an all time low, due equally to ■■■■ poor management and half wit union practices, the difference in quality was planets apart.
Hampshire were one of the first to use BMW 2500/2800s, very soon they established themsleves as able to cover 250k miles with only routine servicing, tyres/friction materials and one clutch change.
I’d be astounded if a single SD1 Rover ever made it to that mileage, my SD1 goes down in my mind as simply the worse car i have ever owned, it was rubbish, knackered at 60k with water pouring into teh cabin from all over and mechanical failures faster than than they could be fixed.
Rovers were terrible vehicles and getting worse, their saviour was Honda which put the quality back in the product via the excellent 2.7V6 engine, i owned an ex police driving school 827si manual for some years, a very fast and very good car, mechanically top notch and severely underrated.
Corporate greed saw Honda dumped and BMW allowed to cherry pick what they wanted.
The rest is history, just as with most of the rest of our industry.
As I’ve said in numerous similar topics I ran a 1970’s BMW 3.0 Si for a number of years and from a police patrol car,or ( very fast
) long distance continental touring,point of view it took well over 5,000 rpm,( closer to 6,000 actually ) to make 130 mph + because even though it came from the land of unlimited autobahns it only had a four speed box together with excessively low final drive gearing to make it’s acceleration better than it would have been with the slower 2500/2800 being fitted with an even lower final drive
.Added to which it rusted a bad as any FIAT of the day and parts cost a fortune.In addition to which the thing cost a fortune for it’s first owner who I bought it off because of it’s original high purchase price,compared to a Jag and subsequent depreciation.
Now compare that with a much cheaper to buy Jag XJ6,( let alone XJ12 ),with manual and overdrive transmission and it’s better handling because of it’s superior rack and pinion steering and wishbone all round suspension as opposed to semi trailing arm rear and old Ford type steering box set up and McPherson struts front on the BM.
Which is why,contrary to all the bs,I’m still using an old early 1980’s Leyland built XJ12 to this day albeit in even faster modified form using bigger engine capacity and manual box which would have been available back in the day to any police force still for less money than the BM would have cost.
While ironically it was actually owing to the fact that Rover went from rear wheel drive V8’s to front wheel drive Jap crap that made the police look elsewhere having used Rovers for years.