Police research into Lay-by parking

Mm. You do seem to have reaped the whirlwind.

I think there is a traffic Officer who posts on here from time to time. I can’t recall his username. He only occasionally posts, mainly on related issues. And as you say, in all honesty I can’t remember anyone asking him anything or reacting negatively to his presence. I suspect it’s just because he’s largely remained below the radar of notice from most.

You have my respect for the role you do. It’s a role we as society wanted, created and even the most vociferous turn to in their particular hour of want. It doesn’t need much imagination to know some situations you are challenged with are downright unpleasant. I wouldn’t wish to be the person facing the families of those involved.

Drive safe

Thanks from me for your contribution.
We will never agree on this as I still think the Police could manage things a lot better and concentrate on crime rather than easy pickings offences.
I do see your point about resources and stretching yourselves, but I still stand by every point I have tried to make to you.
I’m a bit disapointed that your.parting shot was 3 or 4 paragraphs of official corporate rhetoric and sound bites just because many of us did not fawn and agree with you, but you can’t have everything.
I would have respected you a lot more if you had stuck around and tried to give more side of your views on other issues, but your reasoning of it’s because a lot disagree with you is a bit lame if I may say so.
Thanks for answering SOME of my points anyway.

Sorry to read your leaving us Sarge, I feel a missed opportunity here where some dialogue and interesting discussions could have taken place.

Can’t blame anyone for their opinions as that’s what freedom of speech gives us, be a very sad world if we all had to toe the line and conform to a particular agenda.

Anyway thanks for your posts

Dipper_Dave:
Sorry to read your leaving us Sarge, I feel a missed opportunity here where some dialogue and interesting discussions could have taken place.

Can’t blame anyone for their opinions as that’s what freedom of speech gives us, be a very sad world if we all had to toe the line and conform to a particular agenda.

Anyway thanks for your posts

Well put Dave, I echo everything you say.

Well , maybe just on this occasion anyway. :laughing:

Dipper_Dave:
Sorry to read your leaving us Sarge, I feel a missed opportunity here where some dialogue and interesting discussions could have taken place.

Can’t blame anyone for their opinions as that’s what freedom of speech gives us, be a very sad world if we all had to toe the line and conform to a particular agenda.

Anyway thanks for your posts

What freedom of speech?
This is not the USA, our freedom of expression has largely been taken away, together with our right to bear arms.

People have to tread very carefully around many subjects now, or they’ll find no shortage of the old bill beating on the door to arrest them on a hate crime.
You’re safe to verbally abuse the old (but be wary of who they are first, best if you’re a SJW accusing the old of stealing the young’s future), genuine Christians especially, and men in general especially if they happen to have genuine conservative views (as opposed to the party currently masquerading as conservative) and doubly so if they’re working class, but be careful stepping outside those barriers some are more equal than others in modern socialist ruined Britain.

In another few generations they’ll be monitoring thoughts too.

Welcome to the Hotel California, you can check in any time you like, but you can never leave. [emoji12]

I haven’t commented much on this thread, but it isn’t the police who are clamping and fining drivers for parking, it’s local councils who are acting on complaints from Uncle Septimus and your Aunty Fanny who plays bridge with the chairman of the parish council.

The police officer said he was surprised there were not many or any policemen on this forum, we don’t need them, we have a specialist team of barrack room lawyers.
Does anyone remember the over zealous Womble who would report you for smoking and missing a number plate?

Wheel Nut:
Welcome to the Hotel California, you can check in any time you like, but you can never leave. [emoji12]

Classic. That is so true. Same with haulage in general :laughing:

Wheel Nut:
Welcome to the Hotel California, you can check OUT any time you like, but you can never leave. [emoji12]

Please excuse the correction.
I have always thought this was a really meaningful line in a song and very apt for lorry driving . You can jack it in any time you like but it will always be with you to some extent.
I suppose that’s why after 50 years in transport and being retired for over 4 years, I still spend time on here !!! :smiley:
Regards. John.

EssexTrafficSgt:
you may want to explain how the prisons got so full if we are all so useless and lazy

We’ll start with those who were alleged to have raped a woman, but who didn’t, and the evidence which would otherwise have cleared them was conveniently overlooked, or even deleted, so police can meet their targets for whichever politcal agenda is fashionable right now. We’ll then move onto mental health often being defined a criminal issue rather than a social one since the closing of many mental health institutions. Then perhaps we’ll consider the doubling of prison populations since 1990 as a sort of prison arms race amongst political parties over the last few dacades - each striving to out-do the other on getting ‘tough on crime’ and strengthening their electoral value in the process - using you to make that happen. I’ve been directly falsely implicated in a relatively minor crime, and the way the officers treated me in my own home was the scariest thing I ever experienced. They just wanted a conviction.

EssexTrafficSgt:

robroy:
…As for me, I certainly do NOT hate the Police, but I DO certainly have a problem with some of their methods…

…As I keep saying to the bleeding hearts on here :unamused: who are sooo concerned about ‘‘offending the nice Policeman’’ :unamused: … This guy came on a public forum, with a username indicating he was purely in the capacity of a Traffic Police officer, so why should we not air grievances (on a forum :bulb: :bulb: ) towards him as a representative of an organisation.
I do hope (and I would put a bet on it) that he is man enough to take it, and he will continue to come on regular to try and give a Police perspective, …and as I said, despite what some think, I do respect him for it, and for setting himself up as a target while doing so…

The only outright Police hater on here is Beaver, who clearly has an attitude and creates most of the problems himself (we deal with ‘difficult’ people like him regularly, and it always ends the same) however a great many of you are obviously quite anti, and ranting about all and every problem you perceive without recognising the significant good work we do which FAR outweighs any negative, mistakes, or missed opportunities. And yes, I have a thick skin and am used to all this so would otherwise have considered hanging around to provide a different view point on appropriate topics and some unbiased advice however with the huge imbalance of negativity and rants, with very few open minds willing to have an adult debate and accept certain explanations it seems there is little point and no upside.

:laughing: You DO deal with difficult people, I agree. But people like me don’t buckle from pressure off people like you. And this statement of " It always ends the same " is quite apt really.

You see, you lot think you are the ’ biggest gang ’ , and some of you think you can push ’ difficult ’ people like me around.

But you can’t, because some people ’ like me ’ are far sharper than your average knife :wink: Have a quick look below to see how it ended up for you lot last time you thought you were clever…

EssexTrafficSgt:

Captain Caveman 76:
Try exercising your right to silence when youre being investigated for speeding. Failing to name the driver is an offence in itself…

And rightly so, otherwise we would be having even more deaths and chaos than there already is. Nobody has a ‘right’ to drive, you need a license and as part of that you accept certain rules, all created by society in general through the courts and MPs etc, one of which is a requirement to name the driver at the time of an alleged offence (who can then defend themselves) or face £1,000 fine and 6pts.

It has been argued numerous times through the Human Rights courts at every level, including the well known left leaning European ones and each time it was confirmed as not preventing peoples right to a fair trial which is why it remains, and will continue to do so.

Those that think/imply this is anywhere near a Police state need to actually consider the balance of powers and system of checks and balances, then maybe look at the rest of the world and powers those Police have, as I can’t think if a single country with softer laws and Policing.

Thank you for taking the time to reply, as with many other things, I see your point but don’t agree with it. It’s also a shame you didn’t discus the Huddersfield v Hull City game of 2013 which saw the restriction of movements of football fans. Or even explain why I was handcuffed next to my car and not told the reason why.

I don’t particularly have a problem with the police, but I’m becoming concerned about the way they do things and that they have more powers than they should have in a free country. I also believe that the police shouldn’t be above scrutiny and if they want to retain the trust of the public at large, that have to be, and be seen to be, by the book in every instance.

But that aside, I suspect that probably everyone on this board would miss you if you weren’t there doing your job. (Except maybe the speeding bit :wink: )

Stay safe out there.

Cavey.

I WAS going to show you the official apology as well as the compensation, but that would just be gloating :sunglasses:

(£1000 compensation for wrongful arrest. 12 hours in Runcorn custody suite, approx. £83 per hour)

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Not sure why you bothered to cover your address Beaver. Took less than two minutes to work that out.

Mind you, a five pound note, not very ‘straight outa compton’, is it now…?
:grimacing:

the nodding donkey:
Not sure why you bothered to cover your address Beaver. Took less than two minutes to work that out.

Mind you, a five pound note, not very ‘straight outa compton’, is it now…?
:grimacing:

Always a brew waiting for you Brother Mule :wink:

The fiver was used simply so that my cheaper audience would feel involved :grimacing:

EssexTrafficSgt:

robroy:

Terry T:

EssexTrafficSgt:
I am a Road Policing Sgt with Essex Police

Great. When are you going to start fining drivers for parking under bridges on the M25 ?

Why does it bother you exactly, is it that you would want to park there?..I’m bloody sure I wouldn’t.
Those guys don’t matter a crap to me as it has [zb] all to do with me. :bulb:
There is more important crap about this job that concerns me more.

Firstly its dangerous (and many park without lights) as sometimes a car will take avoiding action for something ahead like debris, or a vehicle braking and swerve onto the hard shoulder not expecting a lorry to be there - we have seen this very thing and when the car saw several units there he tried to swerve back and hit the bull nose of the barrier, with severe injuries.

Secondly, it blocks the emergency route for us - when the motorway is blocked up due to a large accident or other incident, we will frequently see 30-40 of you (because it is often UK trucks of all companies so likely to be some of the members on here) meaning we can’t sail past everyone to get to the incident and actually clear/deal with it - the same applies to Highways and recovery trucks who can’t squeeze through gaps we can so this problem (which includes one or two parking under a bridge for tacho break) adds to the delays.

Robroy, this is why it bothers me. Stories like this. Yes it has nothing to do with me. I just don’t like to hear about innocent people being injured or worse down to the selfish stupidity of others.

If that makes me a ■■■■■ and a fanny then so be it.