Points on licence & DSA test

[rog]

I am sure I read somewhere that if a person had excessive points on their licence, they could not take the DSA LGV test. IF I did, then I cannot find it again - of course I could have dreamt it
Can anyone help? - with the article, not the dream

Sorry - put this in wrong section and I do not know how to delete it

[krankee]

I think you dreamt it.

I’ve never heard of it.

[dieseldave]

My guess is that ROG is right. “Excessive” being 12 points or more (Sorry ROG I couldn’t resist that )

But seriously, IIRC, if an applicant for a provisional LGV licence has a poor driving record, I believe that the Traffic Commissioner has some say in the matter.

[mothertrucker]

I remember something similar about that.
I remember that a guy had been done for drink driving and had been refused his provisional LGV (HGV back then)
He had to go through quite a performance before being allowed the licence with a warning from the DSA.
I think times have changed though and they are not so strict about it now.

[rog]

dieseldave:
My guess is that ROG is right. “Excessive” being 12 points or more (Sorry ROG I couldn’t resist that )

But seriously, IIRC, if an applicant for a provisional LGV licence has a poor driving record, I believe that the Traffic Commissioner has some say in the matter.

Came across a potential trainee with 18 points, YES 18, on his licence - all still within 3 years old, so assume that the court had let him still drive when he pleaded hardship

[dieseldave]

ROG:
Came across a potential trainee with 18 points, YES 18, on his licence - all still within 3 years old, so assume that the court had let him still drive when he pleaded hardship

I’m not sure of the current position on this, but it used to be that if you were in court for several offences from the same “pull,” you got all the points that you deserved, but only the offence with the biggest number of points actually counted towards the “totting-up” procedure. IIRC, the points “earned” on the same day were treated as being concurrent, whilst offences on separate occasions were treated as consecutive.

It’s even more complicated, becasue some offences carry discretionary disqualification, some other offences carry obligatory disqualification, then there’s the “totting-up” procedure. Sometimes, it depends on the particular magistrates as to whether a disqualification is imposed. I’d guess that your boss checked the trainee’s eligibility with Swansea before allowing the training to commence. TBH, I would have checked because if the trainee is a disqualified driver, there’s automatically no insurance on the vehicle A disqualified driver cannot be insured to drive on the road. One easy check would be to look at the dates of the penalty points and compare those with the date of issue of the provisional LGV licence. Given that the trainee has so many points, I’d still phone Swansea though…

[rog]

I’d still phone Swansea though

Boss done it - went out with other instructor so must be ok

[dieseldave]

ROG:

I’d still phone Swansea though

Boss done it - went out with other instructor so must be ok

I’d say that your boss made a wise move there ROG.
Just think if he hadn’t, and the trainee was in fact disqualified, and there’d been some sort of accident…