Hi all,just started new job and am confused already,got told on induction that if you use poa your 6 hour rule slips by the same amount of time ie,
start at 0600-poa for 2 hours, 30min break by 1400,is this right because i always thought it was 6 hours from start of shift and nothing got in the way of that 
It’s 6 hours of work (driving and other work) from the start of the shift or from the last break. POA and Break don’t count toward the 6 hours so in your scenario where you had two hours of POA at the start of the shift then, assuming no other breaks or POA, it would be 14:00 latest when you would require a 15 minute break. Note, you don’t need 30 minutes at 6 hours work, 15 minutes satisfies the WTD break requirements at this point with the remainder of the break taken as needed for the regulations later in the shift.
I got sat down the other day and told to use POA, before it was always a suggestion now its ‘‘you have to use it or you’ll get stood down’’ apparently there is some average 17 week 48 hours rule/thing and i am over it 
I dont mind using it but it can be a pain to keep track of your driving time as it interferes with the digital tacho driver guard
merc0447:
I got sat down the other day and told to use POA, before it was always a suggestion now its ‘‘you have to use it or you’ll get stood down’’ apparently there is some average 17 week 48 hours rule/thing and i am over itI dont mind using it but it can be a pain to keep track of your driving time as it interferes with the digital tacho driver guard
What were you using instead of POA then? Break or POA make no difference to the average working time thing and it’s not just a case of ‘you have to use it’. For a period to qualify as POA there are requirements to be met so you can’t just use every period of waiting about as POA. It’s easier to use a period as break than POA because the requirements for break are less than POA.
what sort of logistics is your company in
hitch:
what sort of logistics is your company in
