Plumber crushed in loading bay

What ever happened to ‘Common Sense’ which is obviously something this guy is lacking

Oh that’s right we now live in a state were we need to be told you cant stand there its dangerous.

Christ how long will it be before everyone will be required to wear a hi vis vest just to cross the road because of the lack of common sense.

The bloke said in that film that he was happy with the outcome and would have been looking for more if he had ended up a wheelchair. What he didn’t say was that it was basically his fault and he shouldn’t have been where he was :unamused: It sounds like the company was fined on a technicality to me.

It’s about time that people in this country started taking responsibility for themselves to be honest.

Would you trust this plumbers joints for leaks?
what chance has he got spotting a drip from a poor joint when he can’t spot a wagon backing on a bay?
you can make sites fool proof but not idiot proof!

What a gormless twot ! Like most of you have said, where’s the common sense gone ? Even if I had no experience of transport / warehouses etc, there’s no way I’d be stood around like that. No wonder companies go broke when they’ve got massive insurance bills to pay out over daft buggers like him. I wouldn’t have had the bloody cheek to go on camera about it. You’re spot on Farnborough Boy.

rule number one, never turn your back on machinery always face it.

I remember quite a few years ago seeing a car parked at the bottom of a large hill with a runaway lane for trucks. This car was parked on the tarmac area directly in front of the sand and next to the car, actually in the sand was a family having a picnic. Now, going by today’s standards, if that runaway lane was actually needed to be used for what it was made for (imagine that!) and a truck ploughed in to them, would the trucking company and local authority be at fault for failing to put measures in place to prevent retardation from the public? After reading this story, and many others in recent years, I suspect the retarded family may actually be found to be in the right. No doubt the trucking company would be at fault for failing to invest in crystal balls and the local council would be at fault for not erecting a 6ft high brick wall in front of the sand lane.
We might as well sell the rest of our country off to the Indians and Chinese and just accept that as a nation we’ve become completely useless and masters of our own demise.

I haven’t seen anything in the thread that explains quite why he was stood there.

If he was collecting something, then could he have been instructed to wait there? Equally, I was under the impression that anyone authorised to be around moving vehicles, must have at least a hi-viz waistcoat on. Even bus drivers have to wear them now!

I’m not sure if it is the kind of place that would have a trade / customer counter, but at the very least, he should have been told to wait somewhere else whilst being dealt with.

That’s my 2p worth.

Actrosman:
And with reference to reversing ‘beepers’ being used at ‘stupid oclock’…they fall under the same rules as a horn and should not be used between the hours of 11pm/7am so…nah, CBA

Or more accurately between 11.30pm & 7am on a ‘restricted road’.

Having just watched the BBC article I can now say that the HSE had it right. Except for exonerating the plumber. It wasn’t the drivers fault and the driver wasnt fined. It was the owner of the warehouse’s fault and they deserve to get hammered. The plumber should have been made to pay compensation to the truck driver IMO though for emotional distress. If he hadn’t been stood there leaning on machinary not designed as a place of rest, the accident wouldn’t have happened.

The first rule of health and safety is that you are responsible for you own safety, regardless of the actions or inactions of others. The plumber failed in this charge and any injury he suffered is on his own head.

nsmith1180:
The first rule of health and safety is that you are responsible for you own safety, .

This should be, but doesn’t seem to work this way.

It doesn’t matter how much H&S you have, how many cameras, mirrors, barriers or anything else, you cannot eliminate the human element. We seem to have a knack for trying to get into a coffin as soon as possible.
When I worked at ASDA one driver was delivering to the store at Hartlepool, a regular drop, spin around outside & reverse down a slight slope to one of the bays. Just as he was about to put it on the dock a warehouse chap decided to help, he stuck his head out the side of the dock to let the driver know he was nearly there! Result was a crushed skull, not dead and he was a local so no real damage. What makes people do things like that?

Slackbladder:
It doesn’t matter how much H&S you have, how many cameras, mirrors, barriers or anything else, you cannot eliminate the human element. We seem to have a knack for trying to get into a coffin as soon as possible.
When I worked at ASDA one driver was delivering to the store at Hartlepool, a regular drop, spin around outside & reverse down a slight slope to one of the bays. Just as he was about to put it on the dock a warehouse chap decided to help, he stuck his head out the side of the dock to let the driver know he was nearly there! Result was a crushed skull, not dead and he was a local so no real damage. What makes people do things like that?

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iceman1,

Everything about your post is wrong.

The plumber WAS there legally.

Suddenly jumping in front of a vehicle is a lot different to being stood behind a reversing one for a substantial period of time.

The attitude of “Ahh, accidents happen…” Is what causes 'em. As a driver I consider myself responsible for everything going on around me. And I repeat - ‘even if it isn’t my fault’! But until it happens (which it hopefully won’t) I think of it as being something I could get wrong. It helps me stay out of trouble :wink:

P.s. I don’t have a dog.