TheYoungTrucker:
Start Dublin Ireland 7.30pm ,1st drop Bradford market,2nd drop Leeds mrkt,3rd drop Sheffield mrkt,4th drop country fresh Sheffield,5th drop Derby mrkt,6th an final drop Costco Lutterworth, all to be done before 10.30 am the following morning.
So how much fuel does a chinook use when loaded and is your winch man well paid too ? 
I think I should ask the boss for a pilots wage. 
Pimpdaddy:
muckles:
You canāt just take breaks when you want in other industries, why should you be able to do so as a truck driver?Because itās your tacho, your licence & your arse on the line, besides most breaks arenāt paid for.
Providing you are taking legal breaks why should your licence, tacho and arse be on the line?
I used to work in a warehouse we werenāt paid for breaks, but it didnāt mean we could wander off at any time to take it.
alder:
Disagree I needed to get to the north west side of Manchester and taking the long A167 down to Thirsk on the wrong side of the country and gambling that the A1 J43 is not closed (it was on 3 occasions last week) to get on the M62 to get all the way across would not have saved me anymore time. So I took the decision to go the M6 but hey ho you post on this forum and you always get know it alls with hindsight who are fixated with gaining fameThatās why they still drive a lorry
The long A167 to Thirsk? Its 27 miles in total from Darlington to Thirsk. It adds an extra 10 miles to going straight up the A1. Should know, weāve been doing it most nights for the past 6 months with the A1 northbound closures.
And why the hell would the A1 J43 being closed be an issue? You donāt go down the A1 to get onto the M62 at Ferrybridge to go to Manchester, you use the A1 M1 link road to join at Junction 29 M62.
You really donāt have the first clue how to get anywhere do you?
Oh dear
think I would be having a word or 2 if I was the gaffer about how much fuel is and how much longer the chosen route was, irrespective of roadworks.
Yeah you are right I should have gone your way conor or maybe down the A19. I will try it next time.
How much fuel would I have saved going Conors way war1974? I am so keen to learn
I asked several of the drivers which way they would go and it was half/half only one mentioned the A167 others saying A19 but about half of them saying A66/M6 so it is judge a matter of calling heads and tails. Well done though I have learned a valuable lesson on here. The point was the planning of this route but well done on hijacking the thread to attack me.
All planners have pocket diaries with a map of the UK in them. Jolly useful. As is the sign on the only one office door which has This Way on it. 
alder:
How much fuel would I have saved going Conors way war1974? I am so keen to learn
Given the amount of hills on the M6 between Penrith and the M61 in comparison to going down the normal A1 way (Stainmore on the A66 cancels out Windy Hill), 5 gallons or so plus an hours wages so you probably cost your company an additional Ā£30-Ā£40.
When weāre forced to go M62, M61, M6 way up to Penrith or Lockerbie because of additional closures on the A1 that stop us doing the Northallerton route we use an additional 45-50 litres of diesel per truck depending on load. When youāve 12-15 lorries a night having to go up that way thatās a hell of a lot of extra cost.
in fuel about Ā£30 - in extra miles wear and tear and wages say another Ā£10.
or Ā£200 a week!
either way enough for your boss to consider buying you a hgv map.
I know each to their own alder but thinking the a66 is a better way than the a167 pfft.
The bad planning reminds of my first trip abroad in my own lorry, i had no clue how to do it, i threw the CMR out of the window, which was the proof of delivery to get paid in two months time.
When you came off the ferry at Dieppe in Northern France you were expected in Lisbon Portugal in two days time, legally this was impossible.
I ran down with a scouser called John Povey, he only stopped for an hour on the whole trip or for a loo or coffee stop,it took a day and a half, running all day and all night.
To do it legally would take four days, to arrive in Lisbon on the fourth morning, either one full load or multi drop groupage loads in the mountains and villages built in the horse and cart era.
i had to learn the game fast, and told the company in Porto which their head office was in the UK , that two days was impossible, my request for four days fell on deaf ears.
All the drivers do it in two days, so why do i take so long and do it in four days causing problems for the back loads to the UK.
The freight forwarders, warehouse staff and customs agents all assume it takes two days off the ferry and the same time going back.
It was common practice that you had to run bent in the 1990s, if stopped, you offered ā ā ā ā or coffee money to the road side enforcement officers so you could be on your way, or refuse coffee money , they could make life harder and a higher official fine with a proper receipt.
From France to Gibaraltar and back, i was paid two thousand and two hundred pounds round trip, which is not bad, Lisbon was about one thousand nine hundred pounds plus more to reload in Porto on Friday night/Saturday morning.
Oh well I have learned a lesson there then. Three of us agreed that it was a better route but some of our day drivers did argue that you guys are correct. Anyway I begged the boss to deduct Ā£100 from this weeks wage but he said no phucking way! I would rather sack you 
alder:
Oh well I have learned a lesson there then. Three of us agreed that it was a better route but some of our day drivers did argue that you guys are correct. Anyway I begged the boss to deduct Ā£100 from this weeks wage but he said no phucking way! I would rather sack you
So when is your first shift as a planner then? 
I was multi dropping single pallets in Gravesend & around Dulwich & Greenwich yesterday, my TM decided that it was clever to give me a couple of drops to get me down to Belvedere for a collection of 18 pallets. I basically told him to Poke 'Em in future, 4 & a half hours driving to do 3 drops/20 miles apart & all the hassle of getting in & out or residential streets melted my brain [emoji12], so glad I donāt do it every day.
If Iād been early enough, I was gonna use Dozyās Woolwich Fairy, but by 2 oāclock Iād had enough of the COCKneys & just headed for Dartford & the Semi Normal Pace of the M25.
toby1234abc:
The bad planning reminds of my first trip abroad in my own lorry, i had no clue how to do it, i threw the CMR out of the windowā¦
Weāve told you before - itās the bloody tacho disco you lob out the window not the CMR!!!
alder:
Oh well I have learned a lesson there then. Three of us agreed that it was a better route but some of our day drivers did argue that you guys are correct. Anyway I begged the boss to deduct Ā£100 from this weeks wage but he said no phucking way! I would rather sack you
blimey Alder - I cant believe 3 other ādriversā thought your route was correct. Or do you all have the same sat navs?
I would say give him Ā£50 as a goodwill gesture and keep the job - heaven forbid you had go onto agency again
Years ago working for Ableās, long since taken over by Hayes, home delivery of furniture. Based near Burton on Trent, leave the yard at around 0500 for three nights away in Scotland around 10 - 15 deliveries a day. First one booked in for 0700, yep according to the planners it took two hours to get from Burton on Trent to Scotland. And the reason I say Scotland and not name the town is because regardless of the town it was two hours if it was Glasgow or Aberdeen. We used to get a (keeping the swear words out) a nasty phone call on the cab phone for ringing the last five customers on the list to say they would not get their delivery that day at 0900.
war1974:
alder:
Oh well I have learned a lesson there then. Three of us agreed that it was a better route but some of our day drivers did argue that you guys are correct. Anyway I begged the boss to deduct Ā£100 from this weeks wage but he said no phucking way! I would rather sack youblimey Alder - I cant believe 3 other ādriversā thought your route was correct. Or do you all have the same sat navs?
I would say give him Ā£50 as a goodwill gesture and keep the job - heaven forbid you had go onto agency again
We do all have Garmin but that had nothing to do with it. I do not use the sat nav when roads are shut as they are not reliable although my Tom Tom 5150 is always in my bag and that is far superior to these garmins. No the other night drivers have done the Aldi at Darlington and know what a pain it is to come back to Normanton but none have done Darlington to Manchester so I called them on my mobile and asked which way they would go and they said the A66 M6 sounded a better option given that the A1 Scotch corner was closed and the M60 roadworks approach from M62. Anyway I will get this route again probably next week so I will test the A167 A1m link M62 route and see if the timing is better. Boss is not too bothered about distance it is the time that is crucial here. 
martinviking:
I was multi dropping single pallets in Gravesend & around Dulwich & Greenwich yesterday, my TM decided that it was clever to give me a couple of drops to get me down to Belvedere for a collection of 18 pallets. I basically told him to Poke 'Em in future, 4 & a half hours driving to do 3 drops/20 miles apart & all the hassle of getting in & out or residential streets melted my brain [emoji12], so glad I donāt do it every day.
If Iād been early enough, I was gonna use Dozyās Woolwiorth Fairy, but by 2 oāclock Iād had enough of the COCKneys & just headed for Dartford & the Semi Normal Pace of the M25.
The planning girl, who has been in transport since she left school last week and worked for all the big players, rung up for an ETA for Wakefield. After a stunned silence I replied āThursdayā
Apparently Thursday isnāt the right answer when the salesman is waiting on site for his delivery on the 31st of the month but heyho youāre on Victoria Embankment heading towards Parliament Square Tuesday afternoon and havenāt loaded for Wakefield yet.
