Plain Ignorance?

Whilst on agency, I regularly look online for jobs and search company websites. On these sites, they often have a “careers” page where you email about possible vacancies etc. I’ve contacted several companies via this and mostly heard sod all back. Not even a “no vacancies at this time…” Are they just ignorant gits?
Keyway have never replied despite having a recruitment link, yet their neighbouring rivals Smiths of Gloucester emailed back within minutes (nothing sadly but will contact in the event etc).
Anyone else experienced similar?

Yep.
In the age of the computer and electronic mail, nobody has the time to reply anymore.

Plus, they don’t care if you like them or not, there’s enough drivers around for when they do recruit

You want in to them, not the other way around.

If you keep gently prodding them, they get the message and will call you in when there is a spare wheel that needs attending to. If you get up on your high horse about it and never speak to them again, it’s your loss, not theirs.

You have to show that you are eager.

ive tried emailling companies for jobs and no luck, i find it better to turn up at the door and ask mate or at least call :slight_smile:

nsmith1180:
You want in to them, not the other way around.

If you keep gently prodding them, they get the message and will call you in when there is a spare wheel that needs attending to. If you get up on your high horse about it and never speak to them again, it’s your loss, not theirs.

You have to show that you are eager.

common courtesy and MANNERS cost nothing! :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

Fatboy slimslow:

nsmith1180:
You want in to them, not the other way around.

If you keep gently prodding them, they get the message and will call you in when there is a spare wheel that needs attending to. If you get up on your high horse about it and never speak to them again, it’s your loss, not theirs.

You have to show that you are eager.

common courtesy and MANNERS cost nothing! :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

You get nothing for nothing! :wink:

I personally stopped sending cvs/registering on websites etc as the return didn’t justify the time spent.

A drivers’ mate who was with me last week recommended Jobsite. I’ve had a couple of emails suggesting jobs but money’s crap. I’ve put my cv on Directgov Job Search, for some reason I’ve had “recommended” job details sent to me like nursing, shop manager, teacher etc. Who the hell designs their software, and more importantly, is it ever checked to see if it’s fit for purpose.
It’s fun searchimg for random jobs, then sunmitting from the options, why you don’t want it. I like rejecting the ones offering crap money.

The problem is companies get so many applications on line, they just don’t have the time to answer them all.

Some HR staff see e-mailing as a lazy way to contact them regarding jobs…

Personally I’d always call them, Or If your close, then pass by…

Geoffo:
Some HR staff see e-mailing as a lazy way to contact them regarding jobs…

Personally I’d always call them, Or If your close, then pass by…

I can see the point, but why have a careers page then? Or if they do just say “give us a call”.

Geoffo:
Some HR staff see e-mailing as a lazy way to contact them regarding jobs…

Personally I’d always call them, Or If your close, then pass by…

100% agree.

…Which of course means you need an actual contact name at the firm, geographic phone number, & physical office to send CV’s to.

No mobile numbers, No PO box numbers, and NO tom champagne at some agency or other "recruiting for them. :angry:

I don’t need a job persee. But I always look. What’s the deal with Gumtree? The job description is posted and the only info you get is “Reply to this ad” in a check box. I applied for one yesterday and have no idea if my application actually gets to the employer. :confused:

Winseer:
…Which of course means you need an actual contact name at the firm, geographic phone number, & physical office to send CV’s to.

No mobile numbers, No PO box numbers, and NO tom champagne at some agency or other "recruiting for them. :angry:

Google the company name for a phone Nr. then call the HR department…
If you just go to the company & ask to speak to someone In the HR department…

It’s not rocket science, but sometimes putting the ‘leg work’ In can have It’s benefits…

Cold calling lots of firms regularly by phone is the quickest and best method.Jobs that are advertised are usually already gone anyway.Now that everyone uses mobile phones it’s even easier than in the days when you had to be at home or find a call box to phone firms aking if they had any vacancies and likewise there was no way of calling the guvnor or personnel/HR departments if they weren’t actually in the office.But if they ask for a CV instead of sending an application form and/or arranging an interview on the phone then they’re probably timewasters.

With smaller firms I’ve always found taking a drive down to them is best. Probably not easy with big blue chip firms as you probably won’t get past security or recruitment will be dealt with by by head office.
Even so a generic no vacancies e mail wouldn’t be to difficult to set up.

Why do so many companies when advertising on Directgov Job site, put “Company Confidential”? It sets alarm bells ringing, surely? My agency do it (I recognise the phone number) so why the anonymous approach? Experienced drivers can spot an agency anyway so why not just be honest and you may get a tiny bit of respect from lorry drivers.
I’m on agency tomorrow for the firm I’ve got an interview with on Monday, plus one of the firms who I emailed have sent an application form. Just posted it, keeping my options open.
:smiley:

Geoffo:

Winseer:
…Which of course means you need an actual contact name at the firm, geographic phone number, & physical office to send CV’s to.

No mobile numbers, No PO box numbers, and NO tom champagne at some agency or other "recruiting for them. :angry:

Google the company name for a phone Nr. then call the HR department…
If you just go to the company & ask to speak to someone In the HR department…

It’s not rocket science, but sometimes putting the ‘leg work’ In can have It’s benefits…

We’re talking about cold calling here though. If one calls every single haulier within commuting distance, that’s a lot of calls in a short space, then nothing for months since any firm being pushed more than once in a while for a “job pester” is going to lose patience pretty darn quick.

The difficult bit is actually finding someone looking for a driver, when the ads are so often third party.

my wife works In a HR department for a large Belgian company (1000 plus staff)…

They have at least a 150 e-mails a day from people looking for work… (7x150=1050… 1050 e-mails per week :open_mouth: :open_mouth: )

98% of these e-mails do not get answered… :frowning:

Why are these e-mails not answered, I hear you cry… Because the HR department Is also responsible for the employees they already have working for them & sorting out their problems etc, etc…

The lucky one’s are the applicant’s who turn up at the office door, because they get to fill In their applications there & then…

The best way In my opinion Is to show some initiative & go out & knock on some doors… You’ve got nothing to loose…

(Your future employer(s) will be looking for that Initiative…)