Dennis I have to agree with you there and we were a happier lot in them days how the hell they cope with all the legislation nowadays beats me. Eddie.
I used to load Anchor Chain from Blantyre in the 50/60s, There was no way of securing the bundles, But of course their own weight kept it stable & secure, I only put a rope around the backend of the load to make it look secure, I dont doubt the ropes wouldnt have stopped it coming of the motor if something drastic occured, But I never had any mishaps with these loads, But nowadays H.& S Plus the Vosa know alls about load security is a bloody joke, Leave it to the proffesional lorry driver, after all he is in charge of the job he is doing, OK There is a few nuggets who think they no it all, But at the end of the day the proffesional lorry driver is the man doing a great job, & May I add should be better rewarded for his or their efforts to the Haulage Industrey as we have it to-day, For far to long the proffesional lorry drivers have been treat like ■■■■ by a lot of people with a lot less qualifications IMO, Regards Larry.
too late now larry , the lunatics have taken over the asylum . i’ll bet you never strapped a load from canklow to gateshead , i never did . just drove properly according to the load . i did the same all my working life , never needed any jumped up "expert " to tell me how to go on . if i wasn’t sure of anything i wasn’t too proud to ask advice from someone with more experience . cheers , dave
Used to see some of the tankers on the motorways in the 1960’s wth the back end furred up and eaten away around the where the pipes etc were hooked up.You wouldn’t see that today.
rigsby:
too late now larry , the lunatics have taken over the asylum . i’ll bet you never strapped a load from canklow to gateshead , i never did . just drove properly according to the load . i did the same all my working life , never needed any jumped up "expert " to tell me how to go on . if i wasn’t sure of anything i wasn’t too proud to ask advice from someone with more experience . cheers , dave
Very true Rigsby, I used to load slag in bags from Corby , Drip sheet only with a cross rope over the back, No probs whatsoever, Nowadays that type of load would have to have several straps on, What a waste of time Eh, Of course as you said the lunies have taken over, I pleased Im not involved with these Tossers, I would most likeley end up in Jail for GBH, Regards Larry.
One of 4 loads 13’10" wide and 17’10"high coming out of Morpeth past the Mitford turn off on the old A1 on route to Glasgow.
I beleive that is Alan Towers on the top of the load pushing the Telephone wires up.The driver of the F7 was Bob Dunn.
Bewick:
What else but “Chains and Dwangs” could be used to secure these coils any better ? Cheers Bewick.
Aye Dennis,done a few miles with coil like that,if you had any you could drop a scotch board back and front to make it look a bit more secure eh.Vic 
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I could NOT do that…(whatever the money)
The fellas have no safety harness on.
Bewick:
What else but “Chains and Dwangs” could be used to secure these coils any better ? Cheers Bewick.
Chains would still be used but would be tightened up with ratchet “bottle screws” that I mentioned. A mate of mine phoned in from the West Country a few years ago and was told to proceed to one of the S.Wales steelworks for a load of coiled tin-plate. When asked how he was going to secure it ( he had a curtain-sider ) his TM/planner told him to use the straps fitted in the trailer and “take it easy”. The firm he worked for at the time were, and probably still are, one of the biggest in the UK didn’t like him refusing this instruction. This is where a bit of age and experience comes in, a youngster still “wet behind the ears” may have gone ahead and done it, possibly with disasterous results. Cheers Haddy.
This one would get them thinking!!!
erfguy:
Dennis I have to agree with you there and we were a happier lot in them days how the hell they cope with all the legislation nowadays beats me. Eddie.
I agree with both you and dennis,everybody just chipped in and got on with the job that wasn, t strangled with r and regs,Happy days gone for ever mores the pity.
regards dave.
Health and safety at its best , If i ever got too a site and i couldnt pressurise the tank properly because the lid wasnt tight , i could go up the rear ladders and tighten the lid, but because 4 drivers fell of the top of a tank , two whilst sunbathing , the company chopped the rear access ladders off, so if it happens again, in which it has we have to bring the tankers back to depot or nearest depot to reseal the lids, its cost a pretty penny over the years ,and thats just the ones i know about.
OTS:
Health and safety at its best , If i ever got too a site and i couldnt pressurise the tank properly because the lid wasnt tight , i could go up the rear ladders and tighten the lid, but because 4 drivers fell of the top of a tank , two whilst sunbathing , the company chopped the rear access ladders off, so if it happens again, in which it has we have to bring the tankers back to depot or nearest depot to reseal the lids, its cost a pretty penny over the years ,and thats just the ones i know about.
39 years tank driving tells me you should not be moving with a lid that was not tight!
If the nigth man loaded you , you didnt now if it was correctly tightend ,if would look tight but under pressure different kettle of fish
Yeh,fair comment
hows this for H&S youtu.be/t53V1g2z1O0 enjoy.fredm
I think there is place for health & safety in todays world,some of the practises of years ago were downright dangerous.But, as already stated they can sometimes go way over the top to the point of being ridiculous.A few years ago Porche were building a test track at silverstone and I took some of the drainage system to there from Holland.The drains were unloaded in a field from the side of the trailer by a fork truck.I was not allowed to go near the load by the supervisor as they had their own unloading crew.I had to stand 3 meters away and was made to wear safety shoes and a hard hat even though the only thing above me was the sky.When I asked why they just said ‘rules mate rules’ obey the rules or leave the site.So,what can you do??
You just have to wonder how we managed to survive, and prosper, till now?
David
David Miller:
You just have to wonder how we managed to survive, and prosper, till now?David
I’m now talking of about nearly 20 years ago when 'elf and safety was just starting to “flex their muscles” and I re-call having to meet them on site at a couple of the Mills we ran out of regarding “safe” sheeting and roping.Without going into boring detail,I was able to explain the dangers in moving an unsecured load of reels,possibly in the rain,(who pays the “wet claim” by the way!) to an area with enough height to fix static lines to “sky hooks”.Another was the safe loading of waste paper bales,in the North Western region of the HSE ! When I asked if they would ensure that some of the “backstreet” waste paper suppliers in other parts of the UK would also be forced to comply “El silencio”,“It’s not my area so I’m not concerned” Mr. Smith !! So “Mr HSE,jobsworth” if one of our drivers comes to grief outside your area you couldn’t “give a ■■■■” then !! End of meeting and further visits from those ■■■■■■■■■ The Paper Mills in question were delighted that “common sense” had prevailed I can tell you ! Cheers Bewick.