anyone on here that uses a
Tacho and knows there carrots from there Onions Doesnt use it full stop… get rid useless rule that has run its course
keepthefaith:
anyone on here that uses a
Tacho and knows there carrots from there Onions Doesnt use it full stop… get rid useless rule that has run its course
You’ll not be saying that if your company comply with the 48hr average for a WTD reference period and have you sat at home without pay because you’ve reached 1248hrs work and still have 2-3 weeks of the reference period left. For those who want to bang the hours in using PoA is the way to do it.
Conor:
keepthefaith:
anyone on here that uses a
Tacho and knows there carrots from there Onions Doesnt use it full stop… get rid useless rule that has run its courseYou’ll not be saying that if your company comply with the 48hr average for a WTD reference period and have you sat at home without pay because you’ve reached 1248hrs work and still have 2-3 weeks of the reference period left. For those who want to bang the hours in using PoA is the way to do it.
And that’s a agency view on it only
Wouldn’t mind it so much if the tacho makers differentiated it from break but as we’re the only country in Europe that uses it then they can’t be bothered to do it. The amount of infringements generated by this fudge is astronomical I’d say.
This is the only industry where the WTD would have done any good and the bosses found a way round it with POA making it a completely useless piece of legislation.
Most times putting the tacho on break even if you’re waiting would suffice to keep your hours down but then the boss would ask why you’re having so many breaks you slacker. [emoji849]
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POA is nothing but a number shuffling con trick! Main useage I’ve come across is to deliberately circumvent the 60 hour weekly limit. It’s not as if you’re at work anything less. And because it’s not recognised as a break its far too easy to trip yourself up with your time keeping.
Silver_Surfer:
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Mine wouldn’t
Silver_Surfer:
Wouldn’t mind it so much if the tacho makers differentiated it from break but as we’re the only country in Europe that uses it then they can’t be bothered to do it.
The tachograph manufacturers have to programme the tachographs to the specifications laid down by the EU, so blame the EU not the tachograph manufacturers.
Silver_Surfer:
Most times putting the tacho on break even if you’re waiting would suffice to keep your hours down but then the boss would ask why you’re having so many breaks you slacker.
When I was driving I always used break and it was never questioned.
Calm ya ■■■■, poa allows drivers who have all recorded breaks deducted and want to keep their wtd working time down a way to wait around getting paid whilst not racking up unnecessary wtd working time. That’s it. If like the vast majority that don’t have all recorded breaks deducted, then you can forget poa exists.
stevieboy308:
Calm ya ■■■■, poa allows drivers who have all recorded breaks deducted and want to keep their wtd working time down a way to wait around getting paid whilst not racking up unnecessary wtd working time. That’s it. If like the vast majority that don’t have all recorded breaks deducted, then you can forget poa exists.
Do firms out there actually deduct all breaks taken from drivers?
Wherever I’ve worked, I’ve only ever had either 45 mins, or 1 hour a day deducted.
mbax81:
stevieboy308:
Calm ya ■■■■, poa allows drivers who have all recorded breaks deducted and want to keep their wtd working time down a way to wait around getting paid whilst not racking up unnecessary wtd working time. That’s it. If like the vast majority that don’t have all recorded breaks deducted, then you can forget poa exists.Do firms out there actually deduct all breaks taken from drivers?
Wherever I’ve worked, I’ve only ever had either 45 mins, or 1 hour a day deducted.
Me too, I think they’re extremely few and far between, but I have been told by the odd driver that they have all recorded breaks deducted
Silver_Surfer:
This is the only industry where the WTD would have done any good and the bosses found a way round it with POA making it a completely useless piece of legislation.
I was a Linehaul driver at Geopost (now DPD) on the run up to the WTD being brought in and wage negotiations were looking at around 20% wage rise as the company recognised they needed to keep every driver they had and then some with a 48hr total limit. Then PoA was negotiated by the FTA and RHA and that 20% went out of the window and we were back to arguing over 3% because the company recognised it would be situation normal, carry on as before.
Me personally I don’t use it. I don’t want to average more than 48hrs a week, I certainly don’t want to do over 60 even including breaks.
The majority of drivers were also against the wtd 48 / 60, so we can’t blame companies / FTA/RHA
Just as a side note, my company a few years back started to default all tachos to PoA. A pain in the ■■■■■■!
No i don’t use it and the company don’t want to either.
If it was got rid of average hourly pay hoever its arrived at would have to rise because drivers wouldn’t be able to work so many hours.
Its frankly ludicrous in this day and age that drivers are working two week’s worth of hours every week to make a weekly wage up, with some complaining they can’t get the hours in when they’ve already exceeded every other bugger’s weekly total by at least 10 hours and still on basic pay, other industries must look at us and wonder where those nice men in their clean white coats are, who should be leading us to place of safety 