At the start of October last year, I quit my class 2 job with a local company - basically because the pay was crap! It was a fairly handy 8-5 Monday to Friday, home every night number, just 5 minutes from home. But every month, the bank balance slid further into the overdraft. So, after an extensive talk with the missus, I packed it in, and took a job driving class 1 - still Monday to Friday, but I’m away all week. However, the pay was around 50% more, not to mention the household bills coming down considerably! When I packed in my old job, the boss asked what I’d been offered, and I told him straight. His reply - “that’s a good bit more! 2 weeks notice should do it!”
Today I got a call from the old boss, asking me to go in and have a chat with him - seems they still haven’t managed to get a replacement, despite advertising 3 times! It was a job I’d have no problem returning to, and as he said himself - I know the runs, I know the products, I know the customers, and they won’t have to train me.
I informed him that I have a few big holidays planned this year, requiring a substantial amount of time off, but apparently that’s not an issue.
The important question is - how would you approach the financial side of this situation?
Just carry on being honest. Work out before hand what you need to sensibly live and pay the bills so you have a rough hourly figure in mind.
This guy knows the reason you left. Perhaps emphasise that whilst you enjoyed working there your financial position dictated a move rather than because you were just chasing money which he’ll respect.
He’ll either offer you a new amount or ask what you would expect. Ask him what he can run to first before showing your hand. He’s called you back essentially and in the land of business it’s normal for the asker to show their hand first. If its short of expectations, explain the figure you would need. It may suprise you. He already knows what you’re on now.
No need to be shy just because you know him. We all, including your boss go to work primarily to earn and he’s a businessman who’s called you back because he’s finding resourcing a staff member difficult, so he’ll already have his negotiation head on. It maybe he can’t offer you enough that warrants you leaving your new job, but worth a friendly open and honest discussion.
Sounds to me like he’s fairly desperate if he’s phoning you up after 3/4 months. By the sound of it no one else wants the job for the wages he’s offering and he’s just beginning to realise it.
Just to add on to what FD said. Add a little extra for a bit more to negotiate with. Just don’t sell yourself short.
Don’t negotiate. Tell him what you are on now and tell him you want the same. If he does not agree say “ok thanks anyway,ill stay where I am”. He’ll will probably come back to you shortly offering to match your current wage if he cant get the job filled.
desypete:
your boss should advertize the job in the polish language i bet he would get people to do the job for a lot less than he was paying you.
They have taken on foreign workers for warehouse staff in the past, but as for drivers they’ve always stayed local. Communication and customer service is something they put a huge amount of emphasis on. Not to mention the fact that even foreign workers wouldn’t accept the wage that was being offered!
Strange one this you go from class 2 9 hour day to class 1 24 hour day for only 50% more pay, sounds like the pay was maybe not to bad at the old place.
jprioredi:
Forgot to add - he did invite me to go speak to my former colleges, as long as I didn’t discuss my current pay with them!
Well isn’t that big of him, signed the officials secrets act did you? part of MI5 is he? find yourself in an orange jump suit answering polite questions from erstwhile nuns in the CIA should you dare to speak to them without consent.
there’s no point it trying to pull the wool over pay as he’d see that on you p45 when you would have handed it over along with the hrs on your card …
As for being 50% better off is that on your basic or including OT and N/O money ?
I’ve never gone back to an old employer (only agency as it’s use them like they use you )
nick2008:
there’s no point it trying to pull the wool over pay as he’d see that on you p45 when you would have handed it over along with the hrs on your card …
As for being 50% better off is that on your basic or including OT and N/O money ?
I’ve never gone back to an old employer (only agency as it’s use them like they use you )
You can withhold earnings to date from a new employer - you contact HMRC and they tell the new employer what they need to know and not what they don’t need to know.
desypete:
your boss should advertize the job in the polish language i bet he would get people to do the job for a lot less than he was paying you.
They have taken on foreign workers for warehouse staff in the past, but as for drivers they’ve always stayed local. Communication and customer service is something they put a huge amount of emphasis on. Not to mention the fact that even foreign workers wouldn’t accept the wage that was being offered!
nick2008:
there’s no point it trying to pull the wool over pay as he’d see that on you p45 when you would have handed it over along with the hrs on your card …
As for being 50% better off is that on your basic or including OT and N/O money ?
I’ve never gone back to an old employer (only agency as it’s use them like they use you )
There was no wool pulling involved - even brought in a few pay slips in case he thought that was the case. The 50% isn’t including overnight allowances as I very rarely did any overnights in my old job, so I didn’t see the sense in factoring it in. As for overtime - I did include the minimum 20 hours a month I did in my old job, but I rarely do the 40 hours I’m contracted for in my new job (even though I still get paid 40 hours). So it would be more hours, for less money - plus more expenses.