PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

smallcoal:
A joint motorway going into port talbot with a empty sheeted trailer

I forgot all about having to sheet the trailer floor before going into BSC works.
I could never see the point in it tbh.
It was the same at Gartcosh (although not so up the road from there at Ravenscraig, even though they made the same coils)
Ok, I realise it was because they wanted a dry trailer going in, but we used to sheet up a soaking wet trailer many times, just to get through the gates, but nothing was said when you backed in to load your coils.
After saying that, many a time you sat at Gartcosh 8 hours to load :unamused: so by that time the trailer had dried out anyway. :smiley:

DEANB:
Tidy looking Foden of James Lynch & Sons. That load is low would it be some sort of steel sheets ■■?

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GL Baker Marathon

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Smart looking Mercedes of David Salvatori, with wheel trims.

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Morton BRS Ltd Dodge.

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Hansons Defender

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Anyone recognise the Scania ■■?

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In the early days Hoyer operated grey trucks very similar to Norman Lewis, but I do recall a Hoyer subbie Ray Appleyard running a lone Scania

Cant make the name out on the Dodge ■■?

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Crossways Scania 111

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Conder Mercedes flat.

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Williams from Wales.

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DEANB:

moomooland:
2D & A Transport of Longton Lancashire aka Doris and Albert.
Albert Rayton originally set up the business on his own and it was called Rayton’s.
After a while Albert had a run in with the ministry so it was renamed ‘D & A Transport’.
Doris was his wife’s name and he was called Albert, hence it became known as Doris and Albert.
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Nice pic Paul, i like the bit “had a run in with the ministry” :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :wink:

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
Richard Ford Borderer.

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This was an operator that passed me by for many years, and I see that he has acquired a pair of previously restored Atkis and painted them in his livery - I think they look well, and nice to see that he actually operated them in the day.

11 RGF - Richard Ford by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

Cheers “240Gardner” they certainly look better than these two !! :wink:

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G.A. Stamper of Culgaith, ■■■■■■■■ auction that was held on 3rd November 2001. Eight cylinder Gardner LXBs and LXCTs were snapped up by one buyer mainly, for up to £3,000 each.

HRS:

DEANB:
A few odds and sods.

Hi Dean,
What a cracking looking truck, well ballanced and a great headboard sign, bet that would look fantastic in colour.
Thanks for what you two do to put this site to-gether and the work you put in. Harvey

TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.Paul Gee’s Photo Collection.Pages 57-58.Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik Arrow Tanker Lorry.VALKYRIE.Wednesday,
6th June,2017.

Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik F or K,Tanker-Bodied,R8x2 or R8x4 Lorry - Motor Truck,4117 RH,Hull,1962. Arrow Bulk Carriers,Hull. Corgi has made a scale model of one of these lorries,QV :-

.Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik F or K,Tanker-Bodied,R8x2 or R8x4 Lorry - Motor Truck,4117 RH,Hull,1962. Arrow Bulk Carriers,Hull. Corgi has made a scale model of one of these lorries,QV..jpg

Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik F or K,Tanker-Bodied,R8x2 or R8x4 Lorry - Motor Truck,4116 RH,Hull,1962.Arrow Bulk Carriers,Hull.Corgi 13701 1.50 Scale Model Corgi Classics :-

VALKYRIE

robroy:

smallcoal:
A joint motorway going into port talbot with a empty sheeted trailer

I forgot all about having to sheet the trailer floor before going into BSC works.
I could never see the point in it tbh.
It was the same at Gartcosh (although not so up the road from there at Ravenscraig, even though they made the same coils)
Ok, I realise it was because they wanted a dry trailer going in, but we used to sheet up a soaking wet trailer many times, just to get through the gates, but nothing was said when you backed in to load your coils.
After saying that, many a time you sat at Gartcosh 8 hours to load :unamused: so by that time the trailer had dried out anyway. :smiley:

Hi robroy,in port talbot we used to shunt the trailers in for loading there was the cold rolled,Galv line,then the hot mill, the reason cold rolled coils and Galv coils were sheeted was to stop claims for damaged coils,that’s why coil wells were rubber lined and beds had to be dry,you could load hot rolled on wet trailers they didn’t have to be sheeted either,I spent 30 years on steel shunting then out on the road some sheeted pics of coils loaded by shunters for the road drivers ,the guy on the weighbridge is a shunt unit cheers John ps thanks to cc for the weighbridge pic

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VALKYRIE:

HRS:

DEANB:
A few odds and sods.

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Hi Dean,
What a cracking looking truck, well ballanced and a great headboard sign, bet that would look fantastic in colour.
Thanks for what you two do to put this site to-gether and the work you put in. Harvey

TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.Paul Gee’s Photo Collection.Pages 57-58.Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik Arrow Tanker Lorry.VALKYRIE.Wednesday,
6th June,2017.

Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik F or K,Tanker-Bodied,R8x2 or R8x4 Lorry - Motor Truck,4117 RH,Hull,1962. Arrow Bulk Carriers,Hull. Corgi has made a scale model of one of these lorries,QV :-
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Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik F or K,Tanker-Bodied,R8x2 or R8x4 Lorry - Motor Truck,4116 RH,Hull,1962.Arrow Bulk Carriers,Hull.Corgi 13701 1.50 Scale Model Corgi Classics :-
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VALKYRIE

Thank you VALKYRIE, I was right, it does look great, I think to offten these days manufacturers go for pay load only due to time etc but in the good old days it also had to look good, in my book that Foden did.
Cheers again, Harvey

robroy:

smallcoal:
A joint motorway going into port talbot with a empty sheeted trailer

I forgot all about having to sheet the trailer floor before going into BSC works.
I could never see the point in it tbh.
It was the same at Gartcosh (although not so up the road from there at Ravenscraig, even though they made the same coils)
Ok, I realise it was because they wanted a dry trailer going in, but we used to sheet up a soaking wet trailer many times, just to get through the gates, but nothing was said when you backed in to load your coils.
After saying that, many a time you sat at Gartcosh 8 hours to load :unamused: so by that time the trailer had dried out anyway. :smiley:

Thanks “robroy” for your comments ! :wink:

Spud1960:

DEANB:
Tidy looking Foden of James Lynch & Sons. That load is low would it be some sort of steel sheets ■■?

9

GL Baker Marathon

8

Smart looking Mercedes of David Salvatori, with wheel trims.

7

Morton BRS Ltd Dodge.

6

Hansons Defender

5

Anyone recognise the Scania ■■?

4

In the early days Hoyer operated grey trucks very similar to Norman Lewis, but I do recall a Hoyer subbie Ray Appleyard running a lone Scania

Cant make the name out on the Dodge ■■?

3

Crossways Scania 111

2

Conder Mercedes flat.

1

Williams from Wales.

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Thanks “Spud1960” for your input ! :smiley:

gingerfold:

DEANB:

moomooland:
2D & A Transport of Longton Lancashire aka Doris and Albert.
Albert Rayton originally set up the business on his own and it was called Rayton’s.
After a while Albert had a run in with the ministry so it was renamed ‘D & A Transport’.
Doris was his wife’s name and he was called Albert, hence it became known as Doris and Albert.
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Nice pic Paul, i like the bit “had a run in with the ministry” :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :wink:

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
Richard Ford Borderer.

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This was an operator that passed me by for many years, and I see that he has acquired a pair of previously restored Atkis and painted them in his livery - I think they look well, and nice to see that he actually operated them in the day.

11 RGF - Richard Ford by Adam Floyd, on Flickr

Cheers “240Gardner” they certainly look better than these two !! :wink:

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G.A. Stamper of Culgaith, ■■■■■■■■ auction that was held on 3rd November 2001. Eight cylinder Gardner LXBs and LXCTs were snapped up by one buyer mainly, for up to £3,000 each.

Thanks Graham. :wink:

VALKYRIE:

HRS:

DEANB:
A few odds and sods.

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Hi Dean,
What a cracking looking truck, well ballanced and a great headboard sign, bet that would look fantastic in colour.
Thanks for what you two do to put this site to-gether and the work you put in. Harvey

TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.Paul Gee’s Photo Collection.Pages 57-58.Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik Arrow Tanker Lorry.VALKYRIE.Wednesday,
6th June,2017.

Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik F or K,Tanker-Bodied,R8x2 or R8x4 Lorry - Motor Truck,4117 RH,Hull,1962. Arrow Bulk Carriers,Hull. Corgi has made a scale model of one of these lorries,QV :-
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Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik F or K,Tanker-Bodied,R8x2 or R8x4 Lorry - Motor Truck,4116 RH,Hull,1962.Arrow Bulk Carriers,Hull.Corgi 13701 1.50 Scale Model Corgi Classics :-
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VALKYRIE

Thanks for the information and pic VALKYRIE. :wink: :smiley:

smallcoal:

robroy:

smallcoal:
A joint motorway going into port talbot with a empty sheeted trailer

I forgot all about having to sheet the trailer floor before going into BSC works.
I could never see the point in it tbh.
It was the same at Gartcosh (although not so up the road from there at Ravenscraig, even though they made the same coils)
Ok, I realise it was because they wanted a dry trailer going in, but we used to sheet up a soaking wet trailer many times, just to get through the gates, but nothing was said when you backed in to load your coils.
After saying that, many a time you sat at Gartcosh 8 hours to load :unamused: so by that time the trailer had dried out anyway. :smiley:

Hi robroy,in port talbot we used to shunt the trailers in for loading there was the cold rolled,Galv line,then the hot mill, the reason cold rolled coils and Galv coils were sheeted was to stop claims for damaged coils,that’s why coil wells were rubber lined and beds had to be dry,you could load hot rolled on wet trailers they didn’t have to be sheeted either,I spent 30 years on steel shunting then out on the road some sheeted pics of coils loaded by shunters for the road drivers ,the guy on the weighbridge is a shunt unit cheers John ps thanks to cc for the weighbridge pic

Great pics again John ! :smiley: :laughing:

HRS:

VALKYRIE:

HRS:

DEANB:
A few odds and sods.

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Hi Dean,
What a cracking looking truck, well ballanced and a great headboard sign, bet that would look fantastic in colour.
Thanks for what you two do to put this site to-gether and the work you put in. Harvey

TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.Paul Gee’s Photo Collection.Pages 57-58.Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik Arrow Tanker Lorry.VALKYRIE.Wednesday,
6th June,2017.

Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik F or K,Tanker-Bodied,R8x2 or R8x4 Lorry - Motor Truck,4117 RH,Hull,1962. Arrow Bulk Carriers,Hull. Corgi has made a scale model of one of these lorries,QV :-
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Foden S21 Spaceship Sputnik F or K,Tanker-Bodied,R8x2 or R8x4 Lorry - Motor Truck,4116 RH,Hull,1962.Arrow Bulk Carriers,Hull.Corgi 13701 1.50 Scale Model Corgi Classics :-
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VALKYRIE

Thank you VALKYRIE, I was right, it does look great, I think to offten these days manufacturers go for pay load only due to time etc but in the good old days it also had to look good, in my book that Foden did.
Cheers again, Harvey

I agree Harvey thats what i like about this period of transport ,the trucks look individual rather than all
the sameplus i think the company colours and sign writing are great on some of them. :smiley: :laughing:

Anyone recognise the Transcon ■■?

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Draycott Commer.

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TMS haulage Seddon.Door as been re modelled on this one ! :laughing:

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Morfa Transport Marathon.

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Reinforcement Delivery Service.

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BJ Waters loaded with coal Guy

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Edwards of Hull Buffalo.

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Anyone recognise the Man ■■?

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Cant make out the name on the Guy ■■?

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Healings Seddon Atkinson.

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Hi dean,
Excellent input yet again.regarding the MAN,the colours could make it either an early Cardiff transport motor or wild group? If these are 1970’s images? Then I think more likely to not be Cardiff,as I don’t think? They were running then? As I recall,nationwide became Cardiff transport around 1980? Wouldn’t be the first time I was wrong though,lol. Love the B.J.Waters GUY.
Regards Andrew.

Waters Guy is carrying coke . :wink:

pete 359:
Hi dean,
Excellent input yet again.regarding the MAN,the colours could make it either an early Cardiff transport motor or wild group? If these are 1970’s images? Then I think more likely to not be Cardiff,as I don’t think? They were running then? As I recall,nationwide became Cardiff transport around 1980? Wouldn’t be the first time I was wrong though,lol. Love the B.J.Waters GUY.
Regards Andrew.

Hi dean that may be wilds Cardiff never run day cabs and trailer is not a Cardiff trailer it got white tarp folded up this is early shot of one that had a oops moment and one I drove cheers John

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The Guy is Mason Bros, Rotherham. Les.

DEANB:
Anyone recognise the Transcon ■■?

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Draycott Commer.

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TMS haulage Seddon.Door as been re modelled on this one ! :laughing:

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Morfa Transport Marathon.

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Reinforcement Delivery Service.

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BJ Waters loaded with coal Guy

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Edwards of Hull Buffalo.

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Anyone recognise the Man ■■?

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Cant make out the name on the Guy ■■?

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Healings Seddon Atkinson.

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Dean,

I think picture 8 is a Wild Group,Man,picture 9 is a Mason Bro’s unit.

David

All the talk of sheeting loads of steel brings back some memories - did that with me Dad in Llanwerne many times - 1 dirty ‘oil’ sheet first, then a cleaner ‘oil’ sheet, canvas main sheet then finally a plastic main sheet, and the empty trailers were always sheeted, as well as keeping the trailer dry to load the steel, a dry trailer weighed in lighter than a wet one too.

A couple of morfa transport and the yard

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pete 359:
Hi dean,
Excellent input yet again.regarding the MAN,the colours could make it either an early Cardiff transport motor or wild group? If these are 1970’s images? Then I think more likely to not be Cardiff,as I don’t think? They were running then? As I recall,nationwide became Cardiff transport around 1980? Wouldn’t be the first time I was wrong though,lol. Love the B.J.Waters GUY.
Regards Andrew.

Cheers Andrew,i was looking through Paul’s pics yesterday and there are still alot of Welsh motors to
come. :smiley:

Punchy Dan:
Waters Guy is carrying coke . :wink:

:unamused:

smallcoal:

pete 359:
Hi dean,
Excellent input yet again.regarding the MAN,the colours could make it either an early Cardiff transport motor or wild group? If these are 1970’s images? Then I think more likely to not be Cardiff,as I don’t think? They were running then? As I recall,nationwide became Cardiff transport around 1980? Wouldn’t be the first time I was wrong though,lol. Love the B.J.Waters GUY.
Regards Andrew.

Hi dean that may be wilds Cardiff never run day cabs and trailer is not a Cardiff trailer it got white tarp folded up this is early shot of one that had a oops moment and one I drove cheers John

Thanks John for the pics, wats the car ? looks like Allegro,did they do a Vanden Plas version ■■ :smiley:

lespullan:
The Guy is Mason Bros, Rotherham. Les.

Thanks “les” :wink: :smiley:

5thwheel:

DEANB:
Anyone recognise the Transcon ■■?

9

Draycott Commer.

8

TMS haulage Seddon.Door as been re modelled on this one ! :laughing:

7

Morfa Transport Marathon.

6

Reinforcement Delivery Service.

5

BJ Waters loaded with coal Guy

4

Edwards of Hull Buffalo.

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Anyone recognise the Man ■■?

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Cant make out the name on the Guy ■■?

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Healings Seddon Atkinson.

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Dean,

I think picture 8 is a Wild Group,Man,picture 9 is a Mason Bro’s unit.

David

Cheers David ! :wink:

kmills:
All the talk of sheeting loads of steel brings back some memories - did that with me Dad in Llanwerne many times - 1 dirty ‘oil’ sheet first, then a cleaner ‘oil’ sheet, canvas main sheet then finally a plastic main sheet, and the empty trailers were always sheeted, as well as keeping the trailer dry to load the steel, a dry trailer weighed in lighter than a wet one too.

Sounds like a time consuming job with all those sheets “kmills” :wink:

smallcoal:
A couple of morfa transport and the yard

Nice side view of the Marathon John,thanks for posting ! :smiley:

Anyone remember Sharples tippers from Eardisley, always liked the look of these.

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DEANB:
Anyone remember Sharples tippers from Eardisley, always liked the look of these.

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Dave the renegade would have loved these .

Hi dean ,when we loaded trailers in bsc pt each firm had about 10 shunters day and night we would load 7 trailers a day if lucky 5 was the max so road drivers were busy ,they would be local,Midlands,north,north east,Scotland and north wales cheers John

DEANB:
Anyone remember Sharples tippers from Eardisley, always liked the look of these.

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The one in the green t shirt is George ,there was Ray ,they would load out of port talbot for the midlands George drove an 8 wheel foden a newer model good boys they were Jean was the owner