PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[robthedog]

Buzzer:
PMP or there ghost company were still trading until about three years ago from there yard at the back of Mackro on the Segensworth East Ind Estate, IIRC John Ward just shut the operation down in the correct manor after years in the transport industry, Buzzer.

NOPE
motortransport.co.uk/blog/2018/ … ators-say/

[chris_webb]

Hi Dean.The Volvo F86 6-legger has a Sunderland reg plate.

[paul_motyka]

DEANB:

rigsby:
The s39 and s80s were Fodens own worm and crown wheel axles , after the s83 they went with Rockwell which were useless for site work .

Thanks for the info Dave.

coomsey:
I had a Scammel on Tarmac not a bad bit of kit for all she was 10yr old,bet they were a buga to wash but in the 6 months I had her I never quite got round to it,no pay no work! Cheers Coomsey

The Scammell Routeman was the largest selling chassis for 8 wheeler tippers for a period of time.

Never got around to washing it !

finbarot:
Hi Dean

the Drinkwater artic was nicknamed ‘the Barge’ or ‘the Queen Mary’. They were big news back in the day.
It was so big that when it was tipped near Heathrow airport , air traffic control had to be informed and after tipping the driver had to shovel the clouds out of the sheet box !!

Must admit it did look a big old trailer for 1971 !

240 Gardner:
“DEANB” PMP Logistics Scania.Anyone know where they are from ■■

PMP Logistics were from Fareham, and were owned by John Ward, who had previously run Bulldog International at Andover, I believe. They were one of the core of hauliers that I used at MOL in the 2000s, and they also worked, I think for NYK and OOCL. They were a decent outfit with a tidy fleet. Companies House says that they were wrapped up in 2012 - perhaps that was John Ward’s retirement, but I don’t actually know, as I escaped from the world of shipping lines in 2009.

Thanks for the info Chris. I never knew you worked in the shipping industry chap,will pop some stuff on soon.

Taskers trailer advert from 1967.

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240 Gardner:

DEANB:
Anyone know where the Roadways Container Scania is from ■■

I don’t think you can identify which depot from looking at the motor but, in the 2000s, RCL had depots in Southampton, Felixstowe, Barking, Birmingham (replaced by Birch Coppice), Trafford Park, Leeds and Coatbridge. I think it was 2008 when it was privately bought out from Maersk, but it was later acquired by Maritime and then disappeared.

Thanks for the info Chris.

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”
Anyone recognised the Atkinson ■■

This was built by Walsh & Dearden of Darwen out of a tractor unit, but I don’t know the identity of the donor vehicle. They ran it on local work as a flat until the early 1980s, when it was sold to Andrew Donelan of Darwen - I have a photo somewhere when newly painted in Donelan’s colours.

I don’t know the whole trail, but it ended up with the ill-fitting curtain-side body on it, and which had previously been on a Mk.1 Atkinson rigid 6 (PTD 990C, a stretched 4-wheeler which had worked up to the early 90s) and then VBV was owned for a while by Kevin Dennis. It was rallied by him and then by others, but I heard that it was cut up more recently. Photo here: flickr.com/photos/pete247/28368 … BMn-T2onJB

You certainly know your Atkinson’s Chris.

coomsey:

[zb]
anorak:

coomsey:
… I recall Jimbo saying that side tippers weren’t up to much, when he sees this he’ll gen us up. Cheers Coomsey

youtube.com/watch?v=MF85rI9oyeM&t=398s
Those are side tippers in that video. There is a driver opening the gates from about 1:40. Considering the huge loads, they seem to do OK.

The Chinese are turning everything we think we know on its head. If you hadn’t seen the videos, would you have believed that 6-axle artics would carry well over 100tons, every day, in ordinary operation? The vehicles seem to survive but, on the other hand, most of the kit in those videos isn’t much more than a year old.

Impressive, but I’m sure Jimbo mentioned that without some sort of hopper he would tip on the run or risk having to shovel out between the wheels, mind you the Chinese are crafty bugas ! Bet the tyre man n welder would never be put on short time! Cheers Coomsey

Dont know much about the Chinese trucks “coomsey” but alot of chinese stuff seems to break fairly quickly.

tastrucker:
“DEANB”

Anyone recognise the DAF with fridge trailer ■■

Greyroads Foden bulker.

Hello DEAN ,the DAF and fridge trailer is Morris Transport from Oswestry ,you have featured them before but are no longer sign written ,the Foden has long gone from Greyroads ,thank you Trevor

Thanks for the name Trevor.

coomsey:
“paul motyka” “coomsey” “paul motyka” Can someone tell me what model CAT this is?
Picture taken at Holme Hall Quarry Stainton after Tarmac took over Butlers in 1979.
[attachment=0]cat 992 loading shovel.should be working on face,stock shovels down that day…
If I were a betting man Paul I’d have said 980/88 C but they’re all pretty much the same to look at. Either way it looks more than man enough for that job, did it go down the hole loading dump trucks? Cheers Coomsey
Thanks for the reply Coomsey.Someone did tell me it was a 992,but I am the same as you no idea about different models.
The stock shovels were down that particular day so they had this filling in for them,like you say the main job was keeping the 17 Foden dumpers busy supplying the crushers.I remember when Butlers won a contract to supply stone for the M62 at Gildersome with 350,000 tonnes of stone the dumpers were flying around the quarry.I can still picture all those scenes in my head,great days as a young 11yr old what memories I can recall.
Looks a bit small for a 992 but could be I suppose. I bet it rattled the Foden mens teeth with the first bucket full .350,000t , they’d be on for the bonus !

Thanks for your input Paul & coomsey.

Who did you drive for Paul ?
I never went driving for a living,instead I ended up as a mechanic for Butlers but not on lorries,it was at the British Leyland dealership they had.I went with the drivers at Butlers for 6 great years but must have thought to myself I don’t fancy driving these lorries for a living.I did try to get a transfer to the lorry garage but the director who ran the BL Dealership blocked it,saying I have plans for you here then after Tarmac bought them out they closed the garage & I left for pastures new.

blue estate:
“240 Gardner” "DEANB"PMP Logistics Scania.Anyone know where they are from ■■

PMP Logistics were from Fareham, and were owned by John Ward, who had previously run Bulldog International at Andover, I believe. They were one of the core of hauliers that I used at MOL in the 2000s, and they also worked, I think for NYK and OOCL. They were a decent outfit with a tidy fleet. Companies House says that they were wrapped up in 2012 - perhaps that was John Ward’s retirement, but I don’t actually know, as I escaped from the world of shipping lines in 2009.Yep you are right

Is it a red trailer or a yellow trailer today ?

ArcDaz:
“DEANB”

Scammell cab brochure.

Very Nice cab brochure and a great read too

I thought so Daz.

[240_gardner]

robthedog:

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
PMP Logistics Scania.Anyone know where they are from ■■

PMP Logistics were from Fareham, and were owned by John Ward, who had previously run Bulldog International at Andover, I believe. They were one of the core of hauliers that I used at MOL in the 2000s, and they also worked, I think for NYK and OOCL. They were a decent outfit with a tidy fleet. Companies House says that they were wrapped up in 2012 - perhaps that was John Ward’s retirement, but I don’t actually know, as I escaped from the world of shipping lines in 2009.

PMP Went belly up nothing to do with John ward retiring

I see from Companies House that PMP Forward Limited went into administration on 23 May 2018

[240_gardner]

DEANB:
Thanks for the info Chris. I never knew you worked in the shipping industry chap,will pop some stuff on soon.

I keep quiet about it in polite company

Actually I’ve been down in Eastern Docks today, so I had a drive around Ocean Village where I used to work - it’s certainly changed around there since I left in 2009!

[240_gardner]

DEANB:
You certainly know your Atkinson’s Chris.

ah, well, it used to go past my office window in Blackburn most days!

Here’s a glimpse of it: top left, newly finished on Donelan livery after they bought it from Walsh & Dearden, bottom left as we saw it in the pic you posted

Top & bottom right are the Mk.1 Atki that donated the body

[deanb]

Kempston:
“DEANB”

Anyone know where the Magnus Scania is from ■■

Magnus are from Ipswich Dean

Anyone recognise the Volvo

The Volvo is Fred Sherwoods colours but looks to smart for one of theirs.

Thanks for the info on Magnus,looks like the Volvo was not one of Fred’s chap.

pete smith:
Morning Dean,
The Volvo is one of H J Lea/Oakes from Sandbach or Congleton, I think H J Lea’s are from Wheelock near Sandbach and Oakes’s had a mill in Congleton,

Thanks for the name Pete.

robthedog:
“Buzzer” PMP or there ghost company were still trading until about three years ago from there yard at the back of Mackro on the Segensworth East Ind Estate, IIRC John Ward just shut the operation down in the correct manor after years in the transport industry, Buzzer.

NOPE
motortransport.co.uk/blog/2018/ … ators-say/

Cheers Buzzer / Rob.

Chris Webb:
Hi Dean.The Volvo F86 6-legger has a Sunderland reg plate.

Cheers Chris.

paul motyka:
Who did you drive for Paul ?
I never went driving for a living,instead I ended up as a mechanic for Butlers but not on lorries,it was at the British Leyland dealership they had.I went with the drivers at Butlers for 6 great years but must have thought to myself I don’t fancy driving these lorries for a living.I did try to get a transfer to the lorry garage but the director who ran the BL Dealership blocked it,saying I have plans for you here then after Tarmac bought them out they closed the garage & I left for pastures new.

Thanks for your input Paul. Butler’s rings a bell but havent found anything on them yet.

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”

Thanks for the info Chris. I never knew you worked in the shipping industry chap,will pop some stuff on soon.

I keep quiet about it in polite company

Actually I’ve been down in Eastern Docks today, so I had a drive around Ocean Village where I used to work - it’s certainly changed around there since I left in 2009!

Poole docks is similar Chris,nothing like when i was a kid,with companies like Texaco and Corrals long gone !

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”

You certainly know your Atkinson’s Chris.

ah, well, it used to go past my office window in Blackburn most days!

Here’s a glimpse of it: top left, newly finished on Donelan livery after they bought it from Walsh & Dearden, bottom left as we saw it in the pic you posted

Top & bottom right are the Mk.1 Atki that donated the body

Thanks for the pics Chris,looked nicer as a 6 wheeler.

[deanb]

Owens ERF.

Gerry Jones MAN.

Ken Jones Transport DAF.

A.J.Maiden & Son Scania.

S.M.Davies Volvo.

Mansel Davies Volvo.

T.D. Williams Volvo.

J.McCarthy Mercedes.

N & A James MAN.

Anyone know what KCS stands for ■■

[deanb]

Anyone recognise the yellow DAF seen here between Wimborne and Poole.

Anyone recognise the blue MAN taken in the same spot as the DAF above. Possibly owner drivers ?

Ings Transport DAF from Fordingbridge seen here in Poole. That Capri would be worth a few quid now.

Abbey Hill Iveco.

Anyone recognise the Volvo F10,possibly the reg no ■■

Hall & Co Constructor. Is the Ford an Orion ■■

Anyone make the name out on the Buffalo ■■

Cant remember if we have had a Clark’s Transport motor from Southampton on before ■■

T.J.Wyatt Volvo F7. Where were they from ■■

ARC Constructor.

[kmills]

T.J. Wyatt were from Norfolk, somewhere near to Snetterton iirc. They also did fridge work, and had some trucks painted up in ‘Watton Produce’ livery I think- used to see them shipping out of Dover on a Sunday evening back in the day…

Cheers all,

Keith

[blue_estate]

DEANB:
Anyone recognise the yellow DAF seen here between Wimborne and Poole.

9

Anyone recognise the blue MAN taken in the same spot as the DAF above. Possibly owner drivers ?

8

Ings Transport DAF from Fordingbridge seen here in Poole. That Capri would be worth a few quid now.

7

Abbey Hill Iveco.

6

Anyone recognise the Volvo F10,possibly the reg no ■■

5

Hall & Co Constructor. Is the Ford an Orion ■■

4

Anyone make the name out on the Buffalo ■■

3

Cant remember if we have had a Clark’s Transport motor from Southampton on before ■■

2

T.J.Wyatt Volvo F7. Where were they from ■■

1

ARC Constructor.

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The Ford is a Mk1 Orion same as a mk3 ■■■■■■ apart from it has a boot not a hatch back

I’m lost

[vwvanman0]

The buffalo looks like B H Cecil from Blakeney Gloucestershire

Steve

[tyneside]

Hi Dean
You were asking about this Scania a couple of pages ago, it looks very much like MGF, a specialist UK wide company who provide temporary support structures to the construction industry. They have a depot at Langley Moor near Durham City and seem to run a fleet of 6 wheel Scanias. I often see them carrying what looks like steel shuttering for treching etc.
Tyneside

[paul_motyka]

DEANB:

Kempston:
“DEANB”

Anyone know where the Magnus Scania is from ■■

Magnus are from Ipswich Dean

Anyone recognise the Volvo

The Volvo is Fred Sherwoods colours but looks to smart for one of theirs.

Thanks for the info on Magnus,looks like the Volvo was not one of Fred’s chap.

pete smith:
Morning Dean,
The Volvo is one of H J Lea/Oakes from Sandbach or Congleton, I think H J Lea’s are from Wheelock near Sandbach and Oakes’s had a mill in Congleton,

Thanks for the name Pete.

robthedog:
“Buzzer” PMP or there ghost company were still trading until about three years ago from there yard at the back of Mackro on the Segensworth East Ind Estate, IIRC John Ward just shut the operation down in the correct manor after years in the transport industry, Buzzer.

NOPE
motortransport.co.uk/blog/2018/ … ators-say/

Cheers Buzzer / Rob.

Chris Webb:
Hi Dean.The Volvo F86 6-legger has a Sunderland reg plate.

Cheers Chris.

paul motyka:
Who did you drive for Paul ?
I never went driving for a living,instead I ended up as a mechanic for Butlers but not on lorries,it was at the British Leyland dealership they had.I went with the drivers at Butlers for 6 great years but must have thought to myself I don’t fancy driving these lorries for a living.I did try to get a transfer to the lorry garage but the director who ran the BL Dealership blocked it,saying I have plans for you here then after Tarmac bought them out they closed the garage & I left for pastures new.

Thanks for your input Paul. Butler’s rings a bell but havent found anything on them yet.
DEANB I will bump Butlers Quarry Maltby up to page one for you,plenty of good old British Tippers to look at.

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”

Thanks for the info Chris. I never knew you worked in the shipping industry chap,will pop some stuff on soon.

I keep quiet about it in polite company

Actually I’ve been down in Eastern Docks today, so I had a drive around Ocean Village where I used to work - it’s certainly changed around there since I left in 2009!

Poole docks is similar Chris,nothing like when i was a kid,with companies like Texaco and Corrals long gone !

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”

You certainly know your Atkinson’s Chris.

ah, well, it used to go past my office window in Blackburn most days!

Here’s a glimpse of it: top left, newly finished on Donelan livery after they bought it from Walsh & Dearden, bottom left as we saw it in the pic you posted

Top & bottom right are the Mk.1 Atki that donated the body

Thanks for the pics Chris,looked nicer as a 6 wheeler.

[tc_trans]

DEANB:
Dont think we have had a Hollands motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■

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Bob Holland from Gatwick/Crawley area, most commonly known as Ginger Holland, smashing bloke

[deanb]

kmills:

T.J. Wyatt were from Norfolk, somewhere near to Snetterton iirc. They also did fridge work, and had some trucks painted up in ‘Watton Produce’ livery I think- used to see them shipping out of Dover on a Sunday evening back in the day…

Cheers all,

Keith

Thanks for the comments Keith. Just checked the archives and bingo your spot on they were from Snetterton.

Click on pages twice to read.

[deanb]

blue estate:
“DEANB”

Hall & Co Constructor. Is the Ford an Orion ■■

The Ford is a Mk1 Orion same as a mk3 ■■■■■■ apart from it has a boot not a hatch back

I’m lost

Thanks for confirming the car. You still lost ■■?

vwvanman0:
The buffalo looks like B H Cecil from Blakeney Gloucestershire

Steve

Thanks for the name Steve, Paul just sent me this one.

tyneside:
Hi Dean
You were asking about this Scania a couple of pages ago, it looks very much like MGF, a specialist UK wide company who provide temporary support structures to the construction industry. They have a depot at Langley Moor near Durham City and seem to run a fleet of 6 wheel Scanias. I often see them carrying what looks like steel shuttering for treching etc.
Tyneside

Thanks for the comments “tyneside” i think you are spot on,Paul just sent me this pic.

paul motyka:
“DEANB”

Thanks for your input Paul. Butler’s rings a bell but havent found anything on them yet.
DEANB I will bump Butlers Quarry Maltby up to page one for you,plenty of good old British Tippers to look at.

Thanks Paul,If i find anything i will pop it on.

tc trans:
“DEANB”

Dont think we have had a Hollands motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■

Bob Holland from Gatwick/Crawley area, most commonly known as Ginger Holland, smashing bloke

Thanks for the details “tc trans”

[chris_webb]

kmills:
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T.J. Wyatt were from Norfolk, somewhere near to Snetterton iirc. They also did fridge work, and had some trucks painted up in ‘Watton Produce’ livery I think- used to see them shipping out of Dover on a Sunday evening back in the day…

Cheers all,

Keith[/quo

Hi Keith.It was Wyatts that started Fridged Freight from Diss way back.Could be related maybe?

[mantronic]

DEANB:
Owens ERF. Hey Dean ,some great shots here ,Owens had a few of these "German " ERFs .

9

Gerry Jones MAN.

8

Ken Jones Transport DAF.

7

A.J.Maiden & Son Scania.

6

S.M.Davies Volvo.

5

Mansel Davies Volvo. Sad to report dont see MD on the A470

4

T.D. Williams Volvo. Tommy has got MANs also ,thanx Dean MT

3

J.McCarthy Mercedes.

2

N & A James MAN.

1

Anyone know what KCS stands for ■■

0

[arcdaz]

DEANB:
Anyone recognise the yellow DAF seen here between Wimborne and Poole.

9

Anyone recognise the blue MAN taken in the same spot as the DAF above. Possibly owner drivers ?

8

Ings Transport DAF from Fordingbridge seen here in Poole. That Capri would be worth a few quid now.

7

Abbey Hill Iveco.

6

Anyone recognise the Volvo F10,possibly the reg no ■■

5

Hall & Co Constructor. Is the Ford an Orion ■■

4

Anyone make the name out on the Buffalo ■■

3

Cant remember if we have had a Clark’s Transport motor from Southampton on before ■■

2

T.J.Wyatt Volvo F7. Where were they from ■■

1

ARC Constructor.

0

Very nice Pictrues as userial here Dean