PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[240_gardner]

DEANB:
PMP Logistics Scania.Anyone know where they are from ■■

PMP Logistics were from Fareham, and were owned by John Ward, who had previously run Bulldog International at Andover, I believe. They were one of the core of hauliers that I used at MOL in the 2000s, and they also worked, I think for NYK and OOCL. They were a decent outfit with a tidy fleet. Companies House says that they were wrapped up in 2012 - perhaps that was John Ward’s retirement, but I don’t actually know, as I escaped from the world of shipping lines in 2009.

[240_gardner]

DEANB:
Anyone know where the Roadways Container Scania is from ■■

I don’t think you can identify which depot from looking at the motor but, in the 2000s, RCL had depots in Southampton, Felixstowe, Barking, Birmingham (replaced by Birch Coppice), Trafford Park, Leeds and Coatbridge. I think it was 2008 when it was privately bought out from Maersk, but it was later acquired by Maritime and then disappeared.

[240_gardner]

DEANB:
Anyone recognised the Atkinson ■■

This was built by Walsh & Dearden of Darwen out of a tractor unit, but I don’t know the identity of the donor vehicle. They ran it on local work as a flat until the early 1980s, when it was sold to Andrew Donelan of Darwen - I have a photo somewhere when newly painted in Donelan’s colours.

I don’t know the whole trail, but it ended up with the ill-fitting curtain-side body on it, and which had previously been on a Mk.1 Atkinson rigid 6 (PTD 990C, a stretched 4-wheeler which had worked up to the early 90s) and then VBV was owned for a while by Kevin Dennis. It was rallied by him and then by others, but I heard that it was cut up more recently. Photo here: flickr.com/photos/pete247/28368 … BMn-T2onJB

[240_gardner]

Chris Webb:
MRS,aka Muppet Road Services/Show had a depot in Chesterfield,I know somebody who drove for them,didn’t stay long though,you got yer hours in apparantly.

Didn’t they come (legally) unstuck with scrutiny of the hours and records?

[coomsey]

paul motyka:
Can someone tell me what model CAT this is?
Picture taken at Holme Hall Quarry Stainton after Tarmac took over Butlers in 1979.
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If I were a betting man Paul I’d have said 980/88 C but they’re all pretty much the same to look at. Either way it looks more than man enough for that job, did it go down the hole loading dump trucks? Cheers Coomsey

[coomsey]

[zb]
anorak:

coomsey:
… I recall Jimbo saying that side tippers weren’t up to much, when he sees this he’ll gen us up. Cheers Coomsey

youtube.com/watch?v=MF85rI9oyeM&t=398s
Those are side tippers in that video. There is a driver opening the gates from about 1:40. Considering the huge loads, they seem to do OK.

The Chinese are turning everything we think we know on its head. If you hadn’t seen the videos, would you have believed that 6-axle artics would carry well over 100tons, every day, in ordinary operation? The vehicles seem to survive but, on the other hand, most of the kit in those videos isn’t much more than a year old.

Impressive, but I’m sure Jimbo mentioned that without some sort of hopper he would tip on the run or risk having to shovel out between the wheels, mind you the Chinese are crafty bugas ! Bet the tyre man n welder would never be put on short time! Cheers Coomsey

[tastrucker]

DEANB:
Anyone recognise the DAF bulker ■■

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Anyone recognise the DAF with fridge trailer ■■

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Look like T.D.Williams Volvo.

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Anyone know what the initials MRS stand for on the Renault ■■

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A couple of tippers having a break.

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Greyroads Foden bulker.

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Anyone recognise the Magnum ■■

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L.E.Jones Scania.

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MWT Mercedes. Anyone know what the initials stand for ■■

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Anyone recognise the ERF ■■

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Hello DEAN ,the DAF and fridge trailer is Morris Transport from Oswestry ,you have featured them before but are no longer sign written ,the Foden has long gone from Greyroads ,thank you Trevor

[paul_motyka]

coomsey:

paul motyka:
Can someone tell me what model CAT this is?
Picture taken at Holme Hall Quarry Stainton after Tarmac took over Butlers in 1979.
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If I were a betting man Paul I’d have said 980/88 C but they’re all pretty much the same to look at. Either way it looks more than man enough for that job, did it go down the hole loading dump trucks? Cheers Coomsey

Thanks for the reply Coomsey.Someone did tell me it was a 992,but I am the same as you no idea about different models.
The stock shovels were down that particular day so they had this filling in for them,like you say the main job was keeping the 17 Foden dumpers busy supplying the crushers.I remember when Butlers won a contract to supply stone for the M62 at Gildersome with 350,000 tonnes of stone the dumpers were flying around the quarry.I can still picture all those scenes in my head,great days as a young 11yr old what memories I can recall.

[coomsey]

paul motyka:

coomsey:

paul motyka:
Can someone tell me what model CAT this is?
Picture taken at Holme Hall Quarry Stainton after Tarmac took over Butlers in 1979.
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If I were a betting man Paul I’d have said 980/88 C but they’re all pretty much the same to look at. Either way it looks more than man enough for that job, did it go down the hole loading dump trucks? Cheers Coomsey

Thanks for the reply Coomsey.Someone did tell me it was a 992,but I am the same as you no idea about different models.
The stock shovels were down that particular day so they had this filling in for them,like you say the main job was keeping the 17 Foden dumpers busy supplying the crushers.I remember when Butlers won a contract to supply stone for the M62 at Gildersome with 350,000 tonnes of stone the dumpers were flying around the quarry.I can still picture all those scenes in my head,great days as a young 11yr old what memories I can recall.

Looks a bit small for a 992 but could be I suppose. I bet it rattled the Foden mens teeth with the first bucket full .350,000t , they’d be on for the bonus !

[blue_estate]

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
PMP Logistics Scania.Anyone know where they are from ■■

PMP Logistics were from Fareham, and were owned by John Ward, who had previously run Bulldog International at Andover, I believe. They were one of the core of hauliers that I used at MOL in the 2000s, and they also worked, I think for NYK and OOCL. They were a decent outfit with a tidy fleet. Companies House says that they were wrapped up in 2012 - perhaps that was John Ward’s retirement, but I don’t actually know, as I escaped from the world of shipping lines in 2009.

Yep you are right

Is it a red trailer or a yellow trailer today ?

[arcdaz]

DEANB:
The Scammell Routeman,Handyman and Trunker all shared the same glass fibre cab that was styled by the
Italian stylist Michelotti.

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[arcdaz]

DEANB:
Scammell cab brochure.

Click on pages twice to read.

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Very Nice cab brochure and a great read too

[deanb]

rigsby:
The s39 and s80s were Fodens own worm and crown wheel axles , after the s83 they went with Rockwell which were useless for site work .

Thanks for the info Dave.

coomsey:
I had a Scammel on Tarmac not a bad bit of kit for all she was 10yr old,bet they were a buga to wash but in the 6 months I had her I never quite got round to it,no pay no work! Cheers Coomsey

The Scammell Routeman was the largest selling chassis for 8 wheeler tippers for a period of time.

Never got around to washing it !

finbarot:
Hi Dean

the Drinkwater artic was nicknamed ‘the Barge’ or ‘the Queen Mary’. They were big news back in the day.
It was so big that when it was tipped near Heathrow airport , air traffic control had to be informed and after tipping the driver had to shovel the clouds out of the sheet box !!

Must admit it did look a big old trailer for 1971 !

240 Gardner:
“DEANB” PMP Logistics Scania.Anyone know where they are from ■■

PMP Logistics were from Fareham, and were owned by John Ward, who had previously run Bulldog International at Andover, I believe. They were one of the core of hauliers that I used at MOL in the 2000s, and they also worked, I think for NYK and OOCL. They were a decent outfit with a tidy fleet. Companies House says that they were wrapped up in 2012 - perhaps that was John Ward’s retirement, but I don’t actually know, as I escaped from the world of shipping lines in 2009.

Thanks for the info Chris. I never knew you worked in the shipping industry chap,will pop some stuff on soon.

Taskers trailer advert from 1967.

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
Anyone know where the Roadways Container Scania is from ■■

I don’t think you can identify which depot from looking at the motor but, in the 2000s, RCL had depots in Southampton, Felixstowe, Barking, Birmingham (replaced by Birch Coppice), Trafford Park, Leeds and Coatbridge. I think it was 2008 when it was privately bought out from Maersk, but it was later acquired by Maritime and then disappeared.

Thanks for the info Chris.

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”
Anyone recognised the Atkinson ■■

This was built by Walsh & Dearden of Darwen out of a tractor unit, but I don’t know the identity of the donor vehicle. They ran it on local work as a flat until the early 1980s, when it was sold to Andrew Donelan of Darwen - I have a photo somewhere when newly painted in Donelan’s colours.

I don’t know the whole trail, but it ended up with the ill-fitting curtain-side body on it, and which had previously been on a Mk.1 Atkinson rigid 6 (PTD 990C, a stretched 4-wheeler which had worked up to the early 90s) and then VBV was owned for a while by Kevin Dennis. It was rallied by him and then by others, but I heard that it was cut up more recently. Photo here: flickr.com/photos/pete247/28368 … BMn-T2onJB

You certainly know your Atkinson’s Chris.

coomsey:

[zb]
anorak:

coomsey:
… I recall Jimbo saying that side tippers weren’t up to much, when he sees this he’ll gen us up. Cheers Coomsey

youtube.com/watch?v=MF85rI9oyeM&t=398s
Those are side tippers in that video. There is a driver opening the gates from about 1:40. Considering the huge loads, they seem to do OK.

The Chinese are turning everything we think we know on its head. If you hadn’t seen the videos, would you have believed that 6-axle artics would carry well over 100tons, every day, in ordinary operation? The vehicles seem to survive but, on the other hand, most of the kit in those videos isn’t much more than a year old.

Impressive, but I’m sure Jimbo mentioned that without some sort of hopper he would tip on the run or risk having to shovel out between the wheels, mind you the Chinese are crafty bugas ! Bet the tyre man n welder would never be put on short time! Cheers Coomsey

Dont know much about the Chinese trucks “coomsey” but alot of chinese stuff seems to break fairly quickly.

tastrucker:
“DEANB”

Anyone recognise the DAF with fridge trailer ■■

Greyroads Foden bulker.

Hello DEAN ,the DAF and fridge trailer is Morris Transport from Oswestry ,you have featured them before but are no longer sign written ,the Foden has long gone from Greyroads ,thank you Trevor

Thanks for the name Trevor.

coomsey:
“paul motyka” “coomsey” “paul motyka” Can someone tell me what model CAT this is?
Picture taken at Holme Hall Quarry Stainton after Tarmac took over Butlers in 1979.
[attachment=0]cat 992 loading shovel.should be working on face,stock shovels down that day…
If I were a betting man Paul I’d have said 980/88 C but they’re all pretty much the same to look at. Either way it looks more than man enough for that job, did it go down the hole loading dump trucks? Cheers Coomsey
Thanks for the reply Coomsey.Someone did tell me it was a 992,but I am the same as you no idea about different models.
The stock shovels were down that particular day so they had this filling in for them,like you say the main job was keeping the 17 Foden dumpers busy supplying the crushers.I remember when Butlers won a contract to supply stone for the M62 at Gildersome with 350,000 tonnes of stone the dumpers were flying around the quarry.I can still picture all those scenes in my head,great days as a young 11yr old what memories I can recall.
Looks a bit small for a 992 but could be I suppose. I bet it rattled the Foden mens teeth with the first bucket full .350,000t , they’d be on for the bonus !

Thanks for your input Paul & coomsey.

Who did you drive for Paul ?

blue estate:
“240 Gardner” "DEANB"PMP Logistics Scania.Anyone know where they are from ■■

PMP Logistics were from Fareham, and were owned by John Ward, who had previously run Bulldog International at Andover, I believe. They were one of the core of hauliers that I used at MOL in the 2000s, and they also worked, I think for NYK and OOCL. They were a decent outfit with a tidy fleet. Companies House says that they were wrapped up in 2012 - perhaps that was John Ward’s retirement, but I don’t actually know, as I escaped from the world of shipping lines in 2009.Yep you are right

Is it a red trailer or a yellow trailer today ?

ArcDaz:
“DEANB”

Scammell cab brochure.

Very Nice cab brochure and a great read too

I thought so Daz.

[deanb]

Some odds and sods.

Click on pages twice to read.

Volvo 1980.

ERF 1972.

Foden 1977.

Bedford 1975.

Bedford 1965 unusual Val chassis.

[deanb]

Mendip Wood Shavings MAN.

Burfords Roll on roll off DAF.

Masterblock Volvo from Somerset.

Anyone recognise the DAF ■■

Anyone recognise the ERF ■■

British Gypsum Mercedes.

City Link Renault.

Anyone know where the Magnus Scania is from ■■

NYK Scania.

Anyone recognise the Volvo bulker ■■

[deanb]

Some motors seen at the Royal Bath auction site.

R & M Shepard Scania 110 from Sturminster Newton.

Anyone recognise the Renault,looks same company as the Crusader with a part name on the headboard ■■ Was it Platt ■■

Anyone recognise the DAF ■■

Dancar DAF.

G.D.Platt Transcon,anyone know where they were from ■■

Anyone recognise the Foden - reg number ■■

Anyone recognise the Volvo - reg number ■■

Swains of Stretton Scania.

Looks like an ex P&O - Roadways motor ■■

Langdon Bros Foden.

[kempston]

DEANB:
Mendip Wood Shavings MAN.

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Burfords Roll on roll off DAF.

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Masterblock Volvo from Somerset.

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Anyone recognise the DAF ■■

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Anyone recognise the ERF ■■

The ERF looks like an ex Axle Haulage

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British Gypsum Mercedes.

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City Link Renault.

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Anyone know where the Magnus Scania is from ■■

Magnus are from Ipswich Dean

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NYK Scania.

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Anyone recognise the Volvo

The Volvo is Fred Sherwoods colours but looks to smart for one of theirs.
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[robthedog]

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
PMP Logistics Scania.Anyone know where they are from ■■

PMP Logistics were from Fareham, and were owned by John Ward, who had previously run Bulldog International at Andover, I believe. They were one of the core of hauliers that I used at MOL in the 2000s, and they also worked, I think for NYK and OOCL. They were a decent outfit with a tidy fleet. Companies House says that they were wrapped up in 2012 - perhaps that was John Ward’s retirement, but I don’t actually know, as I escaped from the world of shipping lines in 2009.

PMP Went belly up nothing to do with John ward retiring

[pete_smith]

Morning Dean,
The Volvo is one of H J Lea/Oakes from Sandbach or Congleton, I think H J Lea’s are from Wheelock near Sandbach and Oakes’s had a mill in Congleton,

[buzzer]

PMP or there ghost company were still trading until about three years ago from there yard at the back of Mackro on the Segensworth West Ind Estate, IIRC John Ward just shut the operation down in the correct manor after years in the transport industry, Buzzer.