MaggieD:
pete smith:
Piston broke:
Buzzer:
Hi PeteHope you and the current Mrs Smith are keeping well in the leafy suburbs of my birthplace.
I’ve heard that “Swampy” has a heart condition but he’s refused a By Pass !!
Perhaps we’ll see you in the New Forest later this year if this Covid ever goes away ?
Regards
Richard
Hi Richard,
We are both well thank you, hope the same applies to you and Angie?
I have pasted a link below for the old pics of the A34 in your adopted manor, I hope it works!
coomsey:
windrush:
Hi Dean, regarding tarmac it depends what grade , pen rating etc that it consists of. Generally depots used material that would keep for a week or more, we did a lot that was developed with British Gas at Newcastle that utility companies used for backfilling trenches etc that had a non flammable flux it it and that wouldn’t set until laid and rolled. Most ordinary base courses would be fine for several hours, we ran down to Hertfordshire or even Ipswich occasionally and it was still hot enough. Things did change when we had to conform to British Standards though, it couldn’t be given extra heat when mixing it at the plant to allow for distance/hand laying etc so tended to be cooler on delivery which didn’t please some laying gangs! Hot Rolled asphalt would set rock hard in the body though if breakdowns etc occoured, some would have to be jackhammered out although some hauliers soaked it in diesel and set it alight and then tipped it out as soon as it started to soften. Rare for that to happen though, you tried to get rid asap.Pete.
The PTO rodded up on a load of HRA I was going to tip,at a brewery in Bedford (Greene King ■■), Middle of Winter on a Sunday,so no chance of getting a fitter . When they’d sorted her out , Monday morning,off came the tailgate n in went about 30gallon of diesel. Had a good breakfast while I let things develop then down into the quarry hole. Cocked her up n out it came in one lump, one of my Santa Pod moments ! Doing a wheelie in a S39 !
Cheers Coomsey
Sounds like you had a result there “coomsey” that load coming out in one lump. 
windrush:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Decent vans those Marina based ones, we ran two of them at the dealership plus a Marina pickup and like the cars they were pretty much trouble free as they used well proven components.
Pete.
Paul Gee will love you saying that about those vans Pete !
Chris Webb:
Thanks for the Buckley article Dean,we used to fill up at their depot on Howley Lane Warrington in 70s.
They used to run several London trunks on general haulage as well,but I think they finished up as a tanker only fleet.
I though you may know them Chris.
pete smith:
“windrush”^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Decent vans those Marina based ones, we ran two of them at the dealership plus a Marina pickup and like the cars they were pretty much trouble free as they used well proven components.
Pete.
Apart from the front suspension and the gear lever which when worn you could spin around 360 degrees! As you say Pete they were a good bread and butter motor, my Dad had one as his company van it was bought 2nd hand off a motor parts factor so it had already had the stuffing knocked out of her, it was only the 1098 engine OOX 723R. I think the gear box was out of the Triumph Herald?
You will have also just gone up in Paul Gee’s book saying things like that Pete !
rigsby:
“windrush”^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Yes Pete, like the Marina car they used a Triumph gearbox. I can’t recall any suspension issues but we only kept them for around three years.
Pete.
I ran a marina for ages , paid £60 for it and resplined the front suspension . Heck of a job holding the torsion bar in tension while resplining the bar . It had a gold star replaced engine , never used oil and did what we needed , never had a serious breakdown and small stuff was easy to fix . Ran it for 3 years and sold it for £75 to a chap who wanted the engine for his later model marina .
Sounds like you had a proper result there Dave,sold it for a profit after 3 years…
oiltreader:
“Retired Old ■■■■”
Had problems with the machinery, pal. Turned out the gas bottle was empty, all OK now. And do please try & remember, it’s only “wide plastic grilled” 88s for me!OK then does this do it for ye.
Oily
Nice pic Eddie. 
Retired Old ■■■■:
“Retired Old ■■■■” I’m back Paul! Have you missed me?Sorry who are you…do we know you ■■?
How are you mucker,where have you been ? Did you get lost or something…bloody sat navs…
Well since your back,heres a nice clipping you will appreciate.
Had problems with the machinery, pal. Turned out the gas bottle was empty, all OK now. And do please try & remember, it’s only “wide plastic grilled” 88s for me!
Back for only a few days and already causing trouble !
Oily posted a pic of one of Carruthers F88’s ,so heres a bit more about them.
Click on pages twice to read.
smallcoal:
Me and Jakey in Exeter services last night
Thanks for the pics John, hope you and JAKEY behaved yourself’s and never had too bad
a hangover…
pete smith:
“Piston broke” “Buzzer”
Now here is a question for you, while listening to the ITV news it reported it was 35 years ago that the Newbury bypass was started/completed and all the trouble they had with tree huggers actually living in the tree’s trying to stop construction. It was a vast improvement as one can remember coming down the A34 and thinking you had cracked it but you had to go through the town back then which could lose you 3/4 of an hour making it tight for time when going for a ferry or just trying to get home and I am sure many on here can remember the delays at Newbury, just wondered if you have any info/pictures of the construction of the bypass, cheers Buzzer.Hi Buzzer
I think the bit they did first of all was the Burghclere bypass/dual carriageway? That would have been mid/late eighties so your 35 years is about right. I do remember Swampy and his gang of The Great Unwashed causing mayhem every day while the site was being cleared. We did an awful lot of the stone and tarmac deliveries from the Bristol area and, as you say, getting through Newbury was always a bit sketchy. Usually, after tipping the last one of the day, I would come back through Kintbury and along the A4 - a much more pleasant and relaxing drive
The actual Newbury bypass would have been finished about 10 years or so later, late nineties. I can date it fairly accurately because I was presented with a new FM 8 legger in '99 and I did a few loads up there with it. The road may have actually been opened some time before that but I remember that a lot of it had to be resurfaced because there was a problem with the tarmac. It was a special spec material that was designed to let the water drain through rather than run off the camber. It was bloody sticky stuff and caused a bit of grief for us drivers when we were tipping because it would never all come out - had to use the 1RB far too many times on that job!
Unfortunately, no pictures! How we all regret not carrying a camera
The last bit of the Newbury bypass would have been late 1998 as I was running regular to Soton docks, on the southbound carriageway just before the Tothill junction the protesters had one last message, they painted ‘criminal’ across the 2 lanes in white paint and it last quite a time.
Yes Newbury was heart breaking when you thought you had cracked it coming home, north bound for me, keeping up good progress until the dual carriageway part that dropped down to cross the A4, that was a good hour lost. I can even remember queuing from where the by pass starts now at Tothill on that single stretch to get through Newbury one Friday evening, the joys of motoring eh, never fails to disappoint!
Thanks Buzzer,Paul and Pete for your comments and info on the newbury bypass,good stuff chaps.
Piston broke:
If this works, it’ll be a surpriseI knew I had a pic somewhere, I just had to find it! Taken in Melksham Premix plant (I think…) a long, long time ago. Don had delivered a load of sand from somewhere down south and I had arrived with a load of stone - one of the very, very few times I had a camera with me…
Copyright me!
Thanks for the pic Paul. However i have to say that motor did nothing for me,used to see it locally.
It would have looked better in his normal colours.
Anyway heres a bit about it.
Click on pages twice to read.
Buzzer:
Remember a load of French carrots I took on to Newcastle for tipping on a Saturday morning at 2am in the late 70’s, I was cautious about this being a bank holiday week end that any one would turn up but bang on the button a bang on the door signalled the start of unloading. My Mrs and our first son who was only a few months old accompanied me on that trip and that is still the furthest North she has ever been in this country to date, anyway when tipped by about 5am we started our journey back down South and about 3 miles before hitting the M4 was the end of the que and the radio gave us the clue, there was some sort of Military Tattoo going on at Tidworth and this was mainly traffic going to this and I decided to turn left on the M4 when reaching the M4 turn and along to Reading and down to Basingstoke and home via the M3, this was a bit of a long detour but well worth the two or so hours delay at Newbury that I would have endured, Buzzer
Always worth a detour Buzzer, rather than queing.
rigsby:
Swampy is still protesting , he’s up at Euston now protesting about hs2 . I don’t know what he lives on as a career protester .
Unbelievable that he is still being a pain in the arse all these years later Dave.
pete smith:
If you search ‘old photographs of A34 in Hampshire’ it comes up with a great selection of pics on the Motorway Services online website, pics of Whitchurch and around Bullington Cross
Cheers Pete.
Looks like an ex Reids Transport Foden ■■
Used to see these Dutch boys on the Portsmouth / Caen ferry all the time carrying DAF cabs,tractors etc.
They always looked over length to me.
Anyone know where Squibb Demolition are based ■■
Avonline Transport Iveco.
Dont remember having a K & W Brick motor on before,anyone know where they were based ■■
W.J.Vanstone Scania draw-bar livestock outfit.
Dorrington Sand & Gravel Volvo.
Longcliffe bulk Scania tanker.
Anyone know where the Containership Volvo is from ■■
Anyone recognise the ERF car transporter ■■
Hi Dean,
Squibb are Essex boys, I think they used to be called Squib and Davies and they demolished the first part of the Longbridge works when that shut down after the Phoenix group, they ran the scrap in to EMR Smethwick and their drivers were a good set of lads, I remember a bonneted 124-420 on the job!
Some odds and sods.
Click on twice to read.
“jshepguis” Another clipping of a A.Stevens Foden from 1966.
G.D.S. Transport F88.
Frank White Volvo F12’s.
Hoveringham’s ERF.
“windrush” One from your part of the world Pete.
Walkers Transport.
“pete smith” Heres one your way.
Ryland Seddon Atkinson wrecker.
Seddon Sirdar. Rarest truck ever built in the UK ■■?
Blue Circle ERF.
Heeney Scania 111.
DEANB:
Looks like an ex Reids Transport Foden ■■9
Used to see these Dutch boys on the Portsmouth / Caen ferry all the time carrying DAF cabs,tractors etc.
They always looked over length to me.8
Anyone know where Squibb Demolition are based ■■
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Avonline Transport Iveco.
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Dont remember having a K & W Brick motor on before,anyone know where they were based ■■
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W.J.Vanstone Scania draw-bar livestock outfit.
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Dorrington Sand & Gravel Volvo.
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Longcliffe bulk Scania tanker.
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Anyone know where the Containership Volvo is from ■■
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Anyone recognise the ERF car transporter ■■
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Hi Dean Squibb Demolition now have all brand new Mercedes Benz eight wheel tippers which replaced the Dafs & Scania tippers they are a big old company with lots plant and highreach demo machines etc etc they are based in Essex we often see them about and working in London Hertfordshire city of London and many other areas too nice to see this photo of there old Daf CF Daz 
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Walkers still have a garage at Cromford Dene although the trucks have long gone and they just do mot testing and repairs. I used to take my LDV there for Class V11 testing, they were an ERF agency at one time as well but I never held that against them!
Pete.
Hi Dean, Containerships are from Teesside, they used to be based on Teesdock but are now at Haverton Hill, still going strong apparently. Regards, Mizzo,
mizzo:
Hi Dean, Containerships are from Teesside, they used to be based on Teesdock but are now at Haverton Hill, still going strong apparently. Regards, Mizzo,
Hey Dean and mizzo ,im sure i have seen them in Newport at the old Bellport before they moved over to Avonmouth ,MT
DEANB:
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It takes all sorts . . . boom tish
Seddon Sirdar. Rarest truck ever built in the UK ■■?
Dean, with only two built, although there are unconfirmed mentions of a third, it would likely be classed as a very rare vehicle. If we only go with the two known builds one was later dismantled back at the factory and the other reputed to have been sold to a buyer in Spain. Of the two built one was a tractor unit for gross train weights of 60-80 Tons and the vehicle that survived and went to Spain was a platform build, it was this one that was road tested (at an illegal at the time weight of 30 Ton Gross) and received a good review, the ■■■■■■■ NH 220bhp 12.6lt engine was said to be the first one fitted in a Seddon vehicle (1958) coupled to a 10 speed Fuller gearbox and Kirkstall double drive rear bogie. The diagram you have shown was from a brochure for the Sirdar ‘M’ Tractor which shows the ■■■■■■■ as having 178bhp at 2100rpm, different to what was earlier quoted so resulted in the possible third build which to date has not been confirmed. Like the Omega it seems to have been another one off and ‘what if’, Seddon didn’t put it into production for reasons known only to them, it was clearly an Oil Field or similar operation project, I wonder what the vehicle that went to Spain ended up doing! Franky.
Hi Dean still a cracking site keep up the hard work. On Containerships comments are right. They did originally takeover/ operate out of the old Bell line terminal on Teesport which would also tie in with what Mantronic mentions about at Newport Bell line terminal.
As you can see on the photo of the FH their specialty routes were to Finland, Russia. They are now part of the CMA group.
Thanks for the Stevens trailer supplement Dean. My uncle who drove for them gave me a photo a few years ago of an aerial shot of their yard in my home village of Great Ayton. I can date this photo around 1965 as the house being built in top left of photo the next plot along is the house that we moved into as a new build in 1966 and my parents still live there now.
Seems amazing but back then Stevens lorries would come into village from the left in the bottom of picture then back into the yard with load lengths up to 90ft and that was up to when they packed up around 1990, you struggle get a car down now with traffic parked up all over.
The big shed on the right was not Stevens for years this was Curtis Moody workshop and vehicle parking, they had a mill further down the road in the village which was later taken over by Dalgety and Spillers before being closed down. As the original supplement that you posted Stevens took this shed over as they branched into a little bit of storage and warehousing, before closing down both this site and the mill are as usual all housing now.
Here is the Scamell breakdown vehicle which never ventured far i think it only did about 20mph and no fancy electric start on it it was a rope pull start. Picture is in the village pulling tractor out of the River Leven by the the Low Green.
And finally an old shot of a Foden parked up on the road opposite the yard.
pete smith:
Hi Dean,
Squibb are Essex boys, I think they used to be called Squib and Davies and they demolished the first part of the Longbridge works when that shut down after the Phoenix group, they ran the scrap in to EMR Smethwick and their drivers were a good set of lads, I remember a bonneted 124-420 on the job!
Thanks for the details Pete,good stuff chap.
ArcDaz:
“DEANB”Anyone know where Squibb Demolition are based ■■
Hi Dean Squibb Demolition now have all brand new Mercedes Benz eight wheel tippers which replaced the Dafs & Scania tippers they are a big old company with lots plant and highreach demo machines etc etc they are based in Essex we often see them about and working in London Hertfordshire city of London and many other areas too nice to see this photo of there old Daf CF Daz
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Thanks for the info Daz,good stuff chap.
windrush:
Walkers still have a garage at Cromford Dene although the trucks have long gone and they just do mot testing and repairs. I used to take my LDV there for Class V11 testing, they were an ERF agency at one time as well but I never held that against them!Pete.
I thought you might know about them Pete,at least they are still in business even if the trucks have gone.
They are listed as an ERF dealer here.
mizzo:
Hi Dean, Containerships are from Teesside, they used to be based on Teesdock but are now at Haverton Hill, still going strong apparently. Regards, Mizzo,
Thanks for the info Mizzo.
MANTRONIC:
“mizzo” Hi Dean, Containerships are from Teesside, they used to be based on Teesdock but are now at Haverton Hill, still going strong apparently. Regards, Mizzo,Hey Dean and mizzo ,im sure i have seen them in Newport at the old Bellport before they moved over to Avonmouth ,MT
You have been missing MT,everything alright chap ?
Suedehead:
“DEANB”
G.D.S. Transport F88.It takes all sorts . . . boom tish
Sorry you have lost me on that one Suedehead,i am obviously missing something ■■
jshepguis:
Hi Dean still a cracking site keep up the hard work. On Containerships comments are right. They did originally takeover/ operate out of the old Bell line terminal on Teesport which would also tie in with what Mantronic mentions about at Newport Bell line terminal.
As you can see on the photo of the FH their specialty routes were to Finland, Russia. They are now part of the CMA group.
Thanks for the comments “jshepguis”
jshepguis:
Thanks for the Stevens trailer supplement Dean. My uncle who drove for them gave me a photo a few years ago of an aerial shot of their yard in my home village of Great Ayton. I can date this photo around 1965 as the house being built in top left of photo the next plot along is the house that we moved into as a new build in 1966 and my parents still live there now.
Seems amazing but back then Stevens lorries would come into village from the left in the bottom of picture then back into the yard with load lengths up to 90ft and that was up to when they packed up around 1990, you struggle get a car down now with traffic parked up all over.The big shed on the right was not Stevens for years this was Curtis Moody workshop and vehicle parking, they had a mill further down the road in the village which was later taken over by Dalgety and Spillers before being closed down. As the original supplement that you posted Stevens took this shed over as they branched into a little bit of storage and warehousing, before closing down both this site and the mill are as usual all housing now.
Here is the Scamell breakdown vehicle which never ventured far i think it only did about 20mph and no fancy electric start on it it was a rope pull start. Picture is in the village pulling tractor out of the River Leven by the the Low Green.And finally an old shot of a Foden parked up on the road opposite the yard.
Great post “jshepguis” and photos.
Spot on chap as that clipping was from a 1966 magazine. Rope pull start on the Scammell !
That last 2 pic’s of the Foden are intresting. Look at the length of the wheelbase on that !
Surely that was a 6 wheeler rigid converted to a tractor unit ■■
Pete / Daz, Heres a few of Squibbs that Paul has sent through this morning.
“jshepguis” & MT. A couple of Containerships Mercs.
Hi Dean/ArcDaz,
This is how I remember the Squibb motors in the Scania pic and the Commer pic is well before my time!!
Frankydobo:
Seddon Sirdar. Rarest truck ever built in the UK ■■?Dean, with only two built, although there are unconfirmed mentions of a third, it would likely be classed as a very rare vehicle. If we only go with the two known builds one was later dismantled back at the factory and the other reputed to have been sold to a buyer in Spain. Of the two built one was a tractor unit for gross train weights of 60-80 Tons and the vehicle that survived and went to Spain was a platform build, it was this one that was road tested (at an illegal at the time weight of 30 Ton Gross) and received a good review, the ■■■■■■■ NH 220bhp 12.6lt engine was said to be the first one fitted in a Seddon vehicle (1958) coupled to a 10 speed Fuller gearbox and Kirkstall double drive rear bogie. The diagram you have shown was from a brochure for the Sirdar ‘M’ Tractor which shows the ■■■■■■■ as having 178bhp at 2100rpm, different to what was earlier quoted so resulted in the possible third build which to date has not been confirmed. Like the Omega it seems to have been another one off and ‘what if’, Seddon didn’t put it into production for reasons known only to them, it was clearly an Oil Field or similar operation project, I wonder what the vehicle that went to Spain ended up doing! Franky.
Outstanding post Franky.
Now that’s intresting that you say 2 were definately built and possibly a third. The story i was told was that there was one
possibly two built, but have never heard of a third. Like you say i was also told that one was dismantled back at the factory
as it was shown at the Motor Show and never sold. That is intresting that one went to Spain, i will have to look into that.
Talking of the Atkinson Omega i popped alot on about them on page 474.
Click on pages twice to read.
The Seddon Sirdar was announced on the 4th of April 1958.
Heres the road test you mentioned from April 1958.
Click on pages twice to read.
Anyone recognise the Scania ■■
Air Liquid Scania tanker.
REP DAF concrete mixer.
Fowler Welch Scania.
Looks like the Grove crane is having issues with the gib up.
Anyone know where the Saul Carriers MAN is based ■■
Joseph Rice DAF. I am sure thats a new colour scheme ?
Hobbs Bros Iveco tanker,anyone know where they are based ■■
Another one i dont think we have had on before so anyone know where the Cannon Scania is from ■■
PTM International Volvo.
Think it says Gorcoll Transport on the F88 ■■
New Seddon Atkinson 300 tipper at a show.
Dont remember the Karrier running around locally.Seen here between Ferndown and Hampreston.
Shell Roadtrain tanker.
British Industrial Sand ERF.
Think its an F12. Anyone recognise it ■■
Anyone make the name out on the DAF ■■ Looks like something Potts ■■
Anyone recognise the Renault ■■
N.N.Coombs Volvo F7,anyone know where they are from ■■
Daz,Frank Bush Bison. I am sure that he is related to Don Bush.
Joseph Rice vehicles were yellow and green years ago.
Pete.
