Greenwoods Foden with no doubt another load of Zanussi washing machines off Poole docks.
Elliotts Foden about a mile or so from home.
Esso Seddon Atkinson tanker.
Cutlers Mercedes from Poole.
Tarmac Foden.
Anyone recognise the Atkinson â â ?
Mr Kipling Seddon Atkinson.
Unigate Foden.
TNT Scania.
Marley Tiles Volvo F7.
DEANB:
Vintage road test. â240Gardnerâ will no doubt be able to tell us more.Click on pages twice to read.
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A selective comparison of N reg Scania 111 and R reg Volvo F89 v L reg A series and M reg Border is an apples v oranges one and doesnât exactly fit the script.
Given the choice of Bedford TM, ERF NGC and SA 400 which could also have been added to the Foden.
Bearing in mind that the expert opinion is that there was supposedly no market for 250 hp + sleeper cabbed wagons on UK work in the day.Yeah right.
The fact is the Foden in that line up effectively contradicts the conclusion being more than a match for the Scania and the F89 even allowing for the plastic cab while the F89 wasnât even listed for UK market sales.
I wonder who owns the Foden in that test now since Bill Thorpe passed away? I reckon young Dan will know. Also it mentions that ânone of the British trucks had suspended cabsâ but the Foden would have dampers and springs fitted on the cab rear, even the S50 half cabs had that feature? 
Pete.
The F89 in the magazine article has an 88-290 cab on it. Maybe it was part of the conversion to RHD? The excessive heat ingress they report might have been a clue as to why Volvo did not do an RHD version, although I donât remember reading any complaints in that regard about the Oz RHD 89âs.
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Most interesting article, and objective conclusion! It was certainly an achievement for Atkinson to manage to sell trucks fitted with a such cab in 1976!
DEANB:
Greenwoods Foden with no doubt another load of Zanussi washing machines off Poole docks.9
Elliotts Foden about a mile or so from home.
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Esso Seddon Atkinson tanker.
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Cutlers Mercedes from Poole.
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The Atkinson looks like ex Leggett frieghtways
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anorak:
The F89 in the magazine article has an 88-290 cab on it. Maybe it was part of the conversion to RHD? The excessive heat ingress they report might have been a clue as to why Volvo did not do an RHD version, although I donât remember reading any complaints in that regard about the Oz RHD 89âs.
I wonder why it got so warm, from the pic it looks as though the exhaust and turbo are on the left of the engine so nowhere near the driver? You would think that the LHD versions would be worse for the driver.
Pete.
DEANB:
Vintage road test.
A few more recent shots of a couple of the vintage road test companies
The Atkinson Borderer would be dwarfed by the size of the current fleet!!!
windrush:
[zb]
anorak:
The F89 in the magazine article has an 88-290 cab on it. Maybe it was part of the conversion to RHD? The excessive heat ingress they report might have been a clue as to why Volvo did not do an RHD version, although I donât remember reading any complaints in that regard about the Oz RHD 89âs.I wonder why it got so warm, from the pic it looks as though the exhaust and turbo are on the left of the engine so nowhere near the driver? You would think that the LHD versions would be worse for the driver.
Pete.
Maybe the conversion gave rise to other cooling problems? The 290 grille suggests he has had to fit a thicker radiator?
I wonder how many of those wagons are still rolling? Thereâs an idea for a thread- restored lorries of a previous generation.
Hi DeanâŚnice to see you posting again.
This Atkinson is Mid Wales registered EPâŚLater became a Swansea reg in the late 70sâŚbeen mentioned looks like ex Leggets colours.
marktaff:
Hi DeanâŚnice to see you posting again.
This Atkinson is Mid Wales registered EPâŚLater became a Swansea reg in the late 70sâŚbeen mentioned looks like ex Leggets colours.
The top of the sleeper on this Leggettâs Borderer looks slightly different!!! Hope I am safe to call it a Borderer as N reg!!!
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anorak:
Maybe the conversion gave rise to other cooling problems? The 290 grille suggests he has had to fit a thicker radiator?I wonder how many of those wagons are still rolling? Thereâs an idea for a thread- restored lorries of a previous generation.
The Foden is still around, they never die, but Bill Thorpe passed away earlier in the year alas.
Pete.
smallcoal:
Owner driver up in cullimores thursday,he built this from scratch
I spoke to the owner of this wagon when he was delivering to us when concreting a barn floor last year. It is a cut down rigid timber wagon from Wales i think he said, with a rear lift, and it has a 6 cylinder Perkins donkey engine for running the hydraulics for the drum.
JAKEY:
Thanks Dean, that Guy would of been some wagon in its day .
Carryfast:
"DEANB"Vintage road test. â240Gardnerâ will no doubt be able to tell us more.A selective comparison of N reg Scania 111 and R reg Volvo F89 v L reg A series and M reg Border is an apples v oranges one and doesnât exactly fit the script.
Given the choice of Bedford TM, ERF NGC and SA 400 which could also have been added to the Foden.
Bearing in mind that the expert opinion is that there was supposedly no market for 250 hp + sleeper cabbed wagons on UK work in the day.Yeah right.
The fact is the Foden in that line up effectively contradicts the conclusion being more than a match for the Scania and the F89 even allowing for the plastic cab while the F89 wasnât even listed for UK market sales.
I would imagine the choice was what was available that could do the test bearing in mind they were all getting on a bit ! 
I always thought it was a bit odd when roadtests in truck magazine often would have one with a much larger engine than the other
trucks.
windrush:
I wonder who owns the Foden in that test now since Bill Thorpe passed away? I reckon young Dan will know. Also it mentions that ânone of the British trucks had suspended cabsâ but the Foden would have dampers and springs fitted on the cab rear, even the S50 half cabs had that feature?Pete.
Talking about half cabs Pete,is this you buggering about on a Tilcon one !!! 
Click on page twice.
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anorak:
The F89 in the magazine article has an 88-290 cab on it. Maybe it was part of the conversion to RHD? The excessive heat ingress they report might have been a clue as to why Volvo did not do an RHD version, although I donât remember reading any complaints in that regard about the Oz RHD 89âs.
Little bit more about the F89 âanorakâ
Click on page twice.
smallcoal:
Taken Friday at Devon concrete crediton
Cheers John. 
Never understand why companies dont advertise on their trucks !
smallcoal:
Owner driver up in cullimores thursday,he built this from scratch
Plenty of power John for a 6 wheeler !
Froggy55:
âDEANBâ
Most interesting article, and objective conclusion! It was certainly an achievement for Atkinson to manage to sell trucks fitted with a such cab in 1976!
Reckon your living dangerous Froggy as there are a fair few Atkinson fans on here.
Luxury interior.
Suedehead:
âDEANBâAnyone recognise the Atkinson â â ?
The Atkinson looks like ex Leggett frieghtways
Yes you could be right chap. Posted an article about Leggettâs on page 350.
windrush:
"[zb] anorak"The F89 in the magazine article has an 88-290 cab on it. Maybe it was part of the conversion to RHD? The excessive heat ingress they report might have been a clue as to why Volvo did not do an RHD version, although I donât remember reading any complaints in that regard about the Oz RHD 89âs.I wonder why it got so warm, from the pic it looks as though the exhaust and turbo are on the left of the engine so nowhere near the driver? You would think that the LHD versions would be worse for the driver.
Pete.
The engine leant to the left and i seem to remember that it affected fitting the gear stick. However thats intresting about them
having RHD 89âs in Australia ? Will have to see if i have anything on that.
Paul C Gee:
"DEANB"Vintage road test.
A few more recent shots of a couple of the vintage road test companiesThe Atkinson Borderer would be dwarfed by the size of the current fleet!!!
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anorak:
âwindrushâI wonder why it got so warm, from the pic it looks as though the exhaust and turbo are on the left of the engine so nowhere near the driver? You would think that the LHD versions would be worse for the driver.
Pete.
Maybe the conversion gave rise to other cooling problems? The 290 grille suggests he has had to fit a thicker radiator?
I wonder how many of those wagons are still rolling? Thereâs an idea for a thread- restored lorries of a previous generation.
The F89 grille was thicker than the F88 one,although i cant say i have ever really noticed looking at them.
marktaff:
Hi DeanâŚnice to see you posting again.
This Atkinson is Mid Wales registered EPâŚLater became a Swansea reg in the late 70sâŚbeen mentioned looks like ex Leggets colours.
Thanks for the info Mark.
Paul C Gee:
âmarktaffâ Hi DeanâŚnice to see you posting again.
This Atkinson is Mid Wales registered EPâŚLater became a Swansea reg in the late 70sâŚbeen mentioned looks like ex Leggets colours.The top of the sleeper on this Leggettâs Borderer looks slightly different!!! Hope I am safe to call it a Borderer as N reg!!!
windrush:
â[zb] anorakâI wonder how many of those wagons are still rolling? Thereâs an idea for a thread- restored lorries of a previous generation.
The Foden is still around, they never die, but Bill Thorpe passed away earlier in the year alas.
Pete.
diggerdb:
âsmallcoalâ Owner driver up in cullimores thursday,he built this from scratchI spoke to the owner of this wagon when he was delivering to us when concreting a barn floor last year. It is a cut down rigid timber wagon from Wales i think he said, with a rear lift, and it has a 6 cylinder Perkins donkey engine for running the hydraulics for the drum.
Thanks for the info âdiggerdbâ
Martin Rocks Volvo. Dont remember having one on before ?
Hansons Scania.
Is this a Brennan motor ?
Daltonâs Mercedes.
Anyone know where the Quickshift Magnum is from â â ?
Cook Transport Scania.
Stan Robinson Foden. Dont normally see a window in the bulk head like that â â
Maritime MAN.
J.C.Davies Scania , Welsh â â
Elliott Blackmore ERF.
No Dean, that isnât me âbuggering aboutâ with that S50! I think that might be at a Foden dealership, possibly Scotland going by the âSâ fleet code and we had nothing technical like that for lining the two axles up. However we did have the old Dunlop optical alignment guages for setting the individual axles tracking to parallel first though, and then lined them up with a roll of electrical wire tied between the front and rear towing eyes. Something that had to be done regularly with off road work or whenever a spring was changed to keep tyre wear to a minimum, although the second axle tyres on eight leggers did wear faster than the others when cornering on the door handles!
Pete.
windrush:
I wonder who owns the Foden in that test now since Bill Thorpe passed away? I reckon young Dan will know. Also it mentions that ânone of the British trucks had suspended cabsâ but the Foden would have dampers and springs fitted on the cab rear, even the S50 half cabs had that feature?Pete.
Donât know Pete but check out this beauty