PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

Owens Volvo.

Gerry Jones MAN.

Elliott Blackmore Foden.

Haywards Transport from Shropshire.

Runtech MAN.

Mansel Davies Volvo.

South Wales Wood Recycling Volvo.

JAGA DAF.

S.D.Jones MAN.

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P.J.Webb Scania.

“boardo96” ECC Quarries. Heres a few motors we have had on before.

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ECC Quarries from 1968.

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“Punchy Dan” One of your clan ! :smiley: :wink:

Another haulier thats not trading anymore. Noel Zwecker Mercedes.

Pitter Iveco from Southampton.

R.W.Cook Transport Scania. Dont think we have had one on before,anyone know where they are from ■■?

Rawlings Transport Magnum who i seem to remember are from somewhere in Hampshire.

Turners Volvo.

Dont remember having a J.S.Highfield motor on before,anyone know where they are based ■■?

W.A.Cope Foden from the West Midlands.

Anyone recognise the Foden ■■?

Tinnelly Scania bulker.Anyone know where they are from ■■?

Poole connection with Dyce Carriers of Aberdeen Dean, all credit to SCP for the photo…
Oily

DEANB:
“boardo96” ECC Quarries. Heres a few motors we have had on before.

thanks for the pics and the write up on the clay works, was interesting read.
Don’t remember the A series on the road but do remember seeing the ones off the road in the lorry park at Rockbeare, remember there was an F7 6 wheeler just like this one based there in the later years, previously there were some AEC’s, Routmans, Reivers, B series’s, mainly tippers apart from 1 Routman had a crane behind the cab, 2 of the B’s where 8 wheel cranes and there was 2 artic B’s pulling either a flat, tipper, crane or for some time they were on dry sand tanks working out of Warmwell. Remember seeing the 8 wheel F7s at Hillhead and Westleigh, as for the F10 I seem to remember there was one like this at Callow Rock, I think I’m right in saying AnL Transport bought one like it from the quarry’s and ran it for several years. Cheers Nigel

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Hi dean wood recycling packed up the trucks are now Bridgend recycling

DEANB:
Thanks for the post Chris,very intresting and appreciate you posting it. :smiley:

You’re welcome! :slight_smile:

Bewick:
Hi Chris, re. 32ton on 4 axles. I recall that my first Borderer and 40ft York SL in August '71 was only able to run at 30 ton GVW but from here on my brain cell is a bit hazy but the best I can say is it was during 1972 when the weights altered and I believe that the axle spacing on a tandem bogie increased the axle weights from 9:25 to 9:5 ( or was it 9ton to 9:25 ?) if my memory serves me correctly. I can recall a “weighbridge incidence” at Rickmansworth when one of our artics ,fully freighted, just scraped in on the new bogie weights otherwise we would have got done ! I had loaded this new York trailer for Bracknell with 20 ton of paper then the Mill said could I put another two ton on for Uxbridge ! I left a note on the Atky bonnet quipping that “I hoped those B-------- weren’t weighing at Ricky” !!! Doh! but phew !!! the new regs on this trailer saved us !! Cheers Dennis.

1972 does ring a bell, Denis, but I can’t remember if that’s right or not. In these days of standardisation, where most things will couple to other things with highly standardised dimensions (dare I say EU regs?? :laughing: ), many wouldn’t know now, about how there used to be such variations in equipment, in terms of pin position, landing leg location, fifth wheel position, swing clearances etc., not to mention restrictive legislation. For most purposes now, most semi-trailers have had a 1.6m kingpin position for the best part of 30 years. As I recall, we had our first at Bowker in 1988/9 (although we couldn’t go to 13.6m trailers until about 1990) and then found that we needed LWB tractors for MOT and workshop shunting as time-expired fleet motors weren’t long enough.

PS well done for scraping through Rickmansworth :wink:

Overall length was a big thing, with the Ministry man out with his tape measure - I remember this even in the late 70s when Pandoro’s 300 Series tractors were about 2" over length with a Ferrymasters trailer, or something like that. In the late 60s, you’'ll remember having trailers with a neck so short that you’d have the turntable well back on the tractor and consequently over length, whereas positioning it “correctly” would lead you to have the back of the tractor chassis fouling the landing legs

DEANB:
Thanks for the reply Chris,i should have had a look through the archives chap ! :laughing: :laughing: :wink:

I didn’t like to say :wink:

Thanks for the article though - I hadn’t read that one. I tend not to bother with that mag as their level of editorial knowledge is pretty dismal.

It was a one-time editor who came to do a feature on our Borderer, and asked how long it would take to tilt the cab so that he could photograph the engine… :unamused:

I wasn’t there that day, but I understand that the answer he was given was something like, “about three ******* weeks, mate”

Chris Webb:
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Morning Chris.
A E Evans ran a “D” reg Mandator artic at 32t gross in 1969,I took it over when other driver left.To achieve the axle spread the tank had like a swan neck type design with axles right ont arse end.It was a pain to get in some places.I have no photo of it but the attached photo shows another one they ran with axles on back end,it was based in Barking depot and I was told it also ran at 32t gross although it doesn’t look like the spread is as great as on mine…they also cut down two MK5 8-leggers and ran them as 3 axled units for 32t on 5 axles in 1969.Photo shows one in Sheffield.

Hello Chris, you’re exactly on the same lines!

DEANB:
Intresting comments Dennis, never thought about the tax implicaions until you menioned it. :wink:

Actually, I think that was me :laughing: :laughing:

But of course, Dennis would be very interested in tax! As far as I’m aware, though, Bewick didn’t have any 5-axled 32T outfits?

Morning Dean.
Tinnelly are from Northern Ireland but they bought out a tipper firm in Lancashire - it could have been Barnes and Tipping Ltd,not sure.
Our Lancashire lads will know……… :smiley:

Chris Webb:
Morning Dean.
Tinnelly are from Northern Ireland but they bought out a tipper firm in Lancashire - it could have been Barnes and Tipping Ltd,not sure.
Our Lancashire lads will know………

You’re right Chris,bought out in 2009.

David

DEANB:
Owens Volvo.

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Gerry Jones MAN.

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Elliott Blackmore Foden.

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Haywards Transport from Shropshire.

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Runtech MAN.

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Mansel Davies Volvo.

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South Wales Wood Recycling Volvo.

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JAGA DAF.

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S.D.Jones MAN.

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P.J.Webb Scania.

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Hello DEAN ,Haywards Transport ,were from Tetchill nr Ellesmere ,and mostly hauled out of ABP ,but parked up most his DAFs in Caddys yard in Oswestry, finished about 5 years ago ,thank you Trevor

Hey up Dean
J.S Highfelds are from Nottinghamshire I think not far from Tuxford
Cheers Gary

Dean the Scania would of come in from France or Germany Black Forest with those logs on .
The red Foden Alpha 1 will be Tom Babb as on the previous page .
The Elliot Blackmore foden I took my pto and pump off one of theirs in a scrap yard it was ÂŁ150 .

Rawlings transport are from Hook near Basingstoke, always smart trucks but they also trade in fuel supplies, Buzzer

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oiltreader:
Poole connection with Dyce Carriers of Aberdeen Dean, all credit to SCP for the photo…
Oily

Thanks for the pic Oily. They are still going and there yard is at Holton Heath near Wareham. :wink:

boardo96:
“DEANB”

ECC Quarries. Heres a few motors we have had on before.

thanks for the pics and the write up on the clay works, was interesting read.
Don’t remember the A series on the road but do remember seeing the ones off the road in the lorry park at Rockbeare, remember there was an F7 6 wheeler just like this one based there in the later years, previously there were some AEC’s, Routmans, Reivers, B series’s, mainly tippers apart from 1 Routman had a crane behind the cab, 2 of the B’s where 8 wheel cranes and there was 2 artic B’s pulling either a flat, tipper, crane or for some time they were on dry sand tanks working out of Warmwell. Remember seeing the 8 wheel F7s at Hillhead and Westleigh, as for the F10 I seem to remember there was one like this at Callow Rock, I think I’m right in saying AnL Transport bought one like it from the quarry’s and ran it for several years. Cheers Nigel

Thanks for the comments Nigel. :wink:

smallcoal:
Hi dean wood recycling packed up the trucks are now Bridgend recycling

Thanks John,so many companies seem to get taken over or change names ! :wink:

240 Gardner:
“Bewick”
Hi Chris, re. 32ton on 4 axles. I recall that my first Borderer and 40ft York SL in August '71 was only able to run at 30 ton GVW but from here on my brain cell is a bit hazy but the best I can say is it was during 1972 when the weights altered and I believe that the axle spacing on a tandem bogie increased the axle weights from 9:25 to 9:5 ( or was it 9ton to 9:25 ?) if my memory serves me correctly. I can recall a “weighbridge incidence” at Rickmansworth when one of our artics ,fully freighted, just scraped in on the new bogie weights otherwise we would have got done ! I had loaded this new York trailer for Bracknell with 20 ton of paper then the Mill said could I put another two ton on for Uxbridge ! I left a note on the Atky bonnet quipping that “I hoped those B-------- weren’t weighing at Ricky” !!! Doh! but phew !!! the new regs on this trailer saved us !! Cheers Dennis.

1972 does ring a bell, Denis, but I can’t remember if that’s right or not. In these days of standardisation, where most things will couple to other things with highly standardised dimensions (dare I say EU regs?? :laughing: ), many wouldn’t know now, about how there used to be such variations in equipment, in terms of pin position, landing leg location, fifth wheel position, swing clearances etc., not to mention restrictive legislation. For most purposes now, most semi-trailers have had a 1.6m kingpin position for the best part of 30 years. As I recall, we had our first at Bowker in 1988/9 (although we couldn’t go to 13.6m trailers until about 1990) and then found that we needed LWB tractors for MOT and workshop shunting as time-expired fleet motors weren’t long enough.

PS well done for scraping through Rickmansworth :wink:

Overall length was a big thing, with the Ministry man out with his tape measure - I remember this even in the late 70s when Pandoro’s 300 Series tractors were about 2" over length with a Ferrymasters trailer, or something like that. In the late 60s, you’'ll remember having trailers with a neck so short that you’d have the turntable well back on the tractor and consequently over length, whereas positioning it “correctly” would lead you to have the back of the tractor chassis fouling the landing legs

Thanks for your comments Chris. :wink:

240 Gardner:
“DEANB”
Thanks for the reply Chris,i should have had a look through the archives chap ! :laughing: :laughing: :wink:

I didn’t like to say :wink:

Thanks for the article though - I hadn’t read that one. I tend not to bother with that mag as their level of editorial knowledge is pretty dismal.

It was a one-time editor who came to do a feature on our Borderer, and asked how long it would take to tilt the cab so that he could photograph the engine… :unamused:

I wasn’t there that day, but I understand that the answer he was given was something like, “about three ******* weeks, mate”

I dont buy any magazines “new” Chris,glad you enjoyed the article. :wink:

Chris Webb:
Morning Dean.
Tinnelly are from Northern Ireland but they bought out a tipper firm in Lancashire - it could have been Barnes and Tipping Ltd,not sure.
Our Lancashire lads will know……… :smiley:

Thanks for the info Chris. :smiley:

5thwheel:
“Chris Webb” Morning Dean.
Tinnelly are from Northern Ireland but they bought out a tipper firm in Lancashire - it could have been Barnes and Tipping Ltd,not sure.
Our Lancashire lads will know………

You’re right Chris,bought out in 2009.

David

Cheers David. :wink:

tastrucker:
“DEANB”

Haywards Transport from Shropshire.

Hello DEAN ,Haywards Transport ,were from Tetchill nr Ellesmere ,and mostly hauled out of ABP ,but parked up most his DAFs in Caddys yard in Oswestry, finished about 5 years ago ,thank you Trevor

Thanks for the comment Trevor. :wink: Talking about Caddies old yard the sons carried on with a trailer business i seem to
remember,is it still going ? :unamused:

gazsa401:
Hey up Dean
J.S Highfelds are from Nottinghamshire I think not far from Tuxford
Cheers Gary

Cheers Gary. :wink:

Punchy Dan:
Dean the Scania would of come in from France or Germany Black Forest with those logs on .
The red Foden Alpha 1 will be Tom Babb as on the previous page .
The Elliot Blackmore foden I took my pto and pump off one of theirs in a scrap yard it was ÂŁ150 .

Thanks for the details Dan,especially about the red Foden. :smiley:

Buzzer:
Rawlings transport are from Hook near Basingstoke, always smart trucks but they also trade in fuel supplies, Buzzer

Cheers Buzzer. I never knew they were involved in delivering fuel. :wink:

Rocma Volvo. Dont think we have had one on before,anyone know where they are from ■■

Anyone recognise the Volvo ■■?

Maritime Volvo.

Avonline MAN.

Philson Haulage Volvo from Chichester.

Hodnet MAN from your part of the world Trevor.

Anyone know where the D.K. Transport DAF is from ■■?

Ex Chambers & Cook Iveco.

Finnforest DAF. Dont think we have had one of these on before ■■

M.J.Church Volvo.