PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

Dean. Photograph of previously mentioned Atkinson Borderer.

DEANB:
A couple of Bassett Groups finest leaving Poole. Looks like they are loaded with steel from the docks. Back in the 70’s,80’s lots of
steel coils came into Poole. I am surprised the Borderer is not leading the way ,surely the ERF would have been quicker ? What was
the largest engine in a Borderer, was it a 290 rolls ■■?

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Chas Draper Roadtrain. Dont think we have had one of them on before. The dodgy Rover infront was not the most reliable car
used to see them always on the back of the AA recovery trucks. My grandad had the P6 which was the model before, and that
was reliable.

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Spire Transport Freighter. Dont think we have had one of these on before anyone know anything about them ■■

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Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson,says JSP on the front. Obviously normally pulls a bulker.

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Hello DEAN ,a lot of that steel that Bassetts ,hauled would have been for Shelton ,thank you Trevor

coomsey:

colinwallace1:
Chas Draper, grain merchants and animal feed producers, from Wigston, Leicester.
Bought Leylands up until the early nineties, then ran a ERF dealership from their Wigston premises for a few years.
Ran some ERF’s (ec14’s) I think, before packing up.

One of their Bisons came in to Cliffe hill for a load dry stone from under the hoppers. The guy who loaded you could get you to the cwt on gross wt, the Draper’s driver knew better n asked for more n got it, they say he grossed 38ton. He pulled up to Chuck off area n cocked her up, the rams came through the body n stuck up through the load !! They brought a JCB to off load her.

Ha, might have had oats on, the load before. Fill the body to the same height.
They had a fleet of Roadtrains, all trucks were bought brand new. some of the r/trains only ran in harvest time, and parked the rest of the year.
In 91 i did the harvest for them, i had a F reg that had only done 82K. It was still like new.
A lot of things started to change that year, which the long serving drivers didn’t like.
Enjoyed my season on the grain, and were good payers.

Bewick:
The Eaton Concrete Products ERF Steer bears an old Westmorland C.C. Reg No. “JM 7740” and the only firm that might have been the original owner that I can think of would have been The Shap Granite Co Ltd. with Westmorland being a fairly small and sparsely populated County . So it would be interesting to find out this motor’s history. One possibility is Eaton and Shap Granite were in the same industry so I wonder if there was some sort of “tie up” maybe ? Cheers Bewick.
PS nearest I can get is the prefix “JM” was used between Dec 1931 and Nov 1950.

Morning Dennis,
The Eaton’s ERF is a 1948 model and was new to a W Holden? Cheer’s Pete (NMP)

Ray Smyth:
“DEANB”
Spire Transport Freighter. Dont think we have had one of these on before anyone know anything about them ■■

Hi Dean, The Spire Transport lorry has an image of the crooked church spire in Chesterfield, Derbyshire,
and it has what looks like a Sheffield number plate. Regards, Ray.

Thanks for the info Ray. :smiley:

gingerfold:
“DEANB”

Spire Transport was from Chesterfield, hence the logo with the crooked church spire. Much of their work was for a company called Robinsons who made packaging, and also disposables for the NHS.

Thanks for confirming they were from Chesterfield Graham. :smiley:

sm240:
Nice pics Dean !!!
Thank you very much !!!

:wink:

coomsey:
“colinwallace1” Chas Draper, grain merchants and animal feed producers, from Wigston, Leicester.
Bought Leylands up until the early nineties, then ran a ERF dealership from their Wigston premises for a few years.
Ran some ERF’s (ec14’s) I think, before packing up.
One of their Bisons came in to Cliffe hill for a load dry stone from under the hoppers. The guy who loaded you could get you to the cwt on gross wt, the Draper’s driver knew better n asked for more n got it, they say he grossed 38ton. He pulled up to Chuck off area n cocked her up, the rams came through the body n stuck up through the load !! They brought a JCB to off load her.

There always one “coomsey” :laughing: :laughing:

colinwallace1:
Chas Draper, grain merchants and animal feed producers, from Wigston, Leicester.
Bought Leylands up until the early nineties, then ran a ERF dealership from their Wigston premises for a few years.
Ran some ERF’s (ec14’s) I think, before packing up.

Ha, might have had oats on, the load before. Fill the body to the same height.
They had a fleet of Roadtrains, all trucks were bought brand new. some of the r/trains only ran in harvest time, and parked the rest of the year.
In 91 i did the harvest for them, i had a F reg that had only done 82K. It was still like new.
A lot of things started to change that year, which the long serving drivers didn’t like.
Enjoyed my season on the grain, and were good payers.

Thanks for all the info on Draper’s Colin. They musy have been making some money to only use trucks in the harvest time. :smiley: :wink:

jshepguis:
“ERF-NGC-European” Dean, I think the biggest engine in the Borderer was the ■■■■■■■ 250 with 9-sp Fuller - unless anyone is aware of a larger option! Robert
Dean.
I don’t know if it was a special order but right at the end of the Borderer builds there was a 290 Rolls Royce build for the NCB mines rescue, this motor is still in preservation today , think there is a couple of you tube video’s.
John

Thanks for your comment Robert and for the pic and comments John. I found the following leaflet in the collection,apparently
it was a 280 not 290. :laughing: :wink:

Click on twice to read.

pete smith:
The Eaton Concrete Products ERF Steer bears an old Westmorland C.C. Reg No. “JM 7740” and the only firm that might have been the original owner that I can think of would have been The Shap Granite Co Ltd. with Westmorland being a fairly small and sparsely populated County . So it would be interesting to find out this motor’s history. One possibility is Eaton and Shap Granite were in the same industry so I wonder if there was some sort of “tie up” maybe ? Cheers Bewick.
PS nearest I can get is the prefix “JM” was used between Dec 1931 and Nov 1950.
Morning Dennis,
The Eaton’s ERF is a 1948 model and was new to a W Holden? Cheer’s Pete (NMP)

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Cheers Pete ! :wink:

I asked if anyone knew the make of the top truck in this advert but no replies yet ■■? Now with all the knowledge on here
someone must know ? :unamused:

Click on page twice.

DEANB:
I asked if anyone knew the make of the top truck in this advert but no replies yet ■■? Now with all the knowledge on here
someone must know ? :unamused:

Click on page twice.

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Hey Dean ,how about a Euclid ! …had similar working at Hirwaun opencast ,MT

MANTRONIC:

DEANB:
I asked if anyone knew the make of the top truck in this advert but no replies yet ■■? Now with all the knowledge on here
someone must know ? :unamused:

Click on page twice.

Hey Dean ,how about a Euclid ! …had similar working at Hirwaun opencast ,MT

Hi Dean,
I would agree with Mantronic that its a Euclid.
Some images of Warwick Engineering products, never knew it morphed in to Dennis Eagle!

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“pete smith”“MANTRONIC”

DEANB:
I asked if anyone knew the make of the top truck in this advert but no replies yet ■■? Now with all the knowledge on here
someone must know ? :unamused:

Hey Dean ,how about a Euclid ! …had similar working at Hirwaun opencast ,MT
Hi Dean,
I would agree with Mantronic that its a Euclid.
Some images of Warwick Engineering products, never knew it morphed in to Dennis Eagle!

Thanks “MT” and “Pete Smith” for the name an advert Pete. :smiley: :wink:

We have had a few National Coal Board trucks on here. Posted an article on page 319 about The national Coal Board
for anyone intrested.

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Article about a joint venture between The National Coal Board and Stanton and Staveley Ltd from 1963.

The Mammoth Major’s in the article certainly have a look about them,unlike all the modern crap that looks the same.

Click on pages twice to read.

Article from 1964.

British Airways trucks.

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BA article from 1981.

Click on pages twice to read.

Some Welsh motors.

Dyfed Steels DAF.

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Runtech MAN.

Mansel Davies Volvo.

Alan R Jones & Sons Renault.

Arthur Bros DAF.

GLJ Recycling DAF.

Old Atkinson advert from 1964 featuring a Swansea Steel Atkinson.

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Cant make the name out on the Foden,Anyone recognise the colour scheme ■■?

Freightline Scania.

H.Young Marathon.

B.F.I. Fiat.

Ferrymasters Volvo F7.

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Kinch Mercedes. Paul’s favourite car behind,a Marina shed. :laughing: :laughing:

Great pic of Christopher Hills Leyland Marshall on its way to there Mill in Poole.

Blount MAN. We have not had one of these on before,anyone know anything about them.Strange name ?

Stokes Transport Maggie.

Atkins Mercedes heading for Poole docks.

Re the Atki Borderer.
I thought Rolls came in either 265 or 290s.

robroy:
Re the Atki Borderer.
I thought Rolls came in either 265 or 290s.

Me to, We had a 265 in a SedAki, T Reg, We had it uprated to 290, Regards Larry.

hi Dean
I really like Pegaso trucks from Spain;
do you have some photos of Pegaso and fiat Iveco?
thank you very muchDean.
regards
MIMMO :wink:

Lawrence Dunbar:

robroy:
Re the Atki Borderer.
I thought Rolls came in either 265 or 290s.

Me to, We had a 265 in a SedAki, T Reg, We had it uprated to 290, Regards Larry.

Borderer’s only came with a 220 or 280 Roller plus ■■■■■■■ 205, 220 & 250 and then the Gardners

moomooland:
014On September the 9th 2010 the Cheshire firm of Autocarriers, which traded as MCD (Mainland Car Deliveries} entered administration.
It was the second time MCD had entered administration in less than a year as in the previous November MCD had been sold by administrator BDO in a pre-pack administration deal to Autocarriers its sister company.
At the time MCD had an O-licence for 150 vehicles along with 150 trailers.
On the 1st of October 2010 Northampton-based car transporter Autologic acquired a large proportion of the business for £500,000.
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Autocarriers was not a Cheshire firm, they were from Stockton on Tees

Morning Dean,
The Foden was one of Joseph Holloways from Valencia Wharf, Oldbury, West Midlands. Holloways sold it to John Holland who swapped the body for a low sided insulated body to work out of A.R.C quarry at Rowley Regis he then sold it to Robert Todd Haulage from Rowley Regis and I drove it for a year, it ended up on site work in Worcester when finished there I presume she was cut up. Pic showing her in service with Rob Todd. Rolls 265 and fuller 9 speed with Foden back end, Cheer’s Pete ps. I always wondered why there was holes in the sun roof, it was that bloody air horn, always leaked in over the weekend!

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DEANB:
Great pic of Christopher Hills Leyland Marshall on its way to there Mill in Poole.

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DEAN…get to the naughty step at once. It’s an AEC MARSHAL… nothing at all to do with Leyland