PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

Moreton Cullimore ERF

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Furnell AEC wrecker at Poole docks.

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Leyland Buffalo.

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Redland Leyland mixer.

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Anyone recognise the White Road Commander ■■?

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F.G.Wilson Dennison with damage to the back of the cab.

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Unisex Livestock Seddon Atkinson. Bit of an odd name ■■?

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We have had some of these Dodges on before. Was it Chrysler ■■?

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New Transcon.

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Looks like the LHD Bedford was taken in Southampton,so probably heading to the docks for shipment abroad.

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Rowly i reckon this fella would be worth contacting as could be very helpful with regard to your Ford Transcontinental. :wink:

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There was a Douglas Brass in the Northallerton area ran a few wagons, think they went out of the trade a few years ago. He was a distant relations of my wife but I have never met him.

Tyneside

DEANB:
W.J.Riding Seddon Atkinson. Paul is this one under contract to a customer re the colour scheme ■■

Seddon Atkinson 4-11 4x2 tractor unit Reg No F630 SFV Fleet No 51 ‘Great Gable’ pictured above towards the end of it’s working life at Riding’s being used as a shunter in 1996.

Reg No F630 SFV pictured in Blackburn in 1997 after being withdrawn from W & J Riding’s fleet the previous year.
Originally purchased brand new by Riding’s on the 1st of August 1988, at a cost of £28,878, it remained in service with Riding’s for a total of eight years.
In 1996 F630 SFV was sold on to local commercial vehicle dealer Sid Hartley for £2,300 who in turn sold it on to the local fairground operator pictured above.

Back in 1987 Verbrugge Internationale Wegtransporten of the Netherlands wanted to gain a foothold in the UK market.
To enable the company to do so they initially acquired Incobulk later changing the name to Verbrugge UK Ltd and locating in Felixstowe.
After the takeover W & J Riding continued to transport Verbrugge bulk containers for many years and allocated a number of Verbrugge livered Seddon Atkinson & ERF tractor units to the on going contract.

The first day of the contract in 1988 see’s Seddon Atkinson 4-11 4x2 tractor unit Reg No F630 SFV Fleet No 51 ‘Great Gable’, with driver David Ireland and Seddon Atkinson 4-11 4x2 tractor unit Reg No F780 SFR Fleet No 76 ‘Helvelyn’ driven by the late Vic Mason.
Tom Riding who took the photograph when the vehicles were brand new in August 1988 when the contract first began and calls this photograph the ‘Likely Lads’.

DEANB:
Moreton Cullimore ERF

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Furnell AEC wrecker at Poole docks.

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Leyland Buffalo.

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Redland Leyland mixer.

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Anyone recognise the White Road Commander ■■?

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F.G.Wilson Dennison with damage to the back of the cab.

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Unisex Livestock Seddon Atkinson. Bit of an odd name ■■?

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We have had some of these Dodges on before. Was it Chrysler ■■?

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New Transcon.

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Looks like the LHD Bedford was taken in Southampton,so probably heading to the docks for shipment abroad.

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Hi Dean ,the unisex livestock SeddAtk is a S Wales motor ,BM Cole from Monmouth ,regards Keith

tyneside:
There was a Douglas Brass in the Northallerton area ran a few wagons, think they went out of the trade a few years ago. He was a distant relations of my wife but I have never met him.

Tyneside

Up to a couple of years ago a Douglas Brass Transport was still offering loads from the Northallerton / Catterick areas for flats, prefabricated timber sections. Good rates too, much better than the usual back load rates.

moomooland:

DEANB:
W.J.Riding Seddon Atkinson. Paul is this one under contract to a customer re the colour scheme ■■

2Seddon Atkinson 4-11 4x2 tractor unit Reg No F630 SFV Fleet No 51 ‘Great Gable’ pictured above towards the end of it’s working life at Riding’s being used as a shunter in 1996.

0Reg No F630 SFV pictured in Blackburn in 1997 after being withdrawn from W & J Riding’s fleet the previous year.
Originally purchased brand new by Riding’s on the 1st of August 1988, at a cost of £28,878, it remained in service with Riding’s for a total of eight years.
In 1996 F630 SFV was sold on to local commercial vehicle dealer Sid Hartley for £2,300 who in turn sold it on to the local fairground operator pictured above.

Back in 1987 Verbrugge Internationale Wegtransporten of the Netherlands wanted to gain a foothold in the UK market.
To enable the company to do so they initially acquired Incobulk later changing the name to Verbrugge UK Ltd and locating in Felixstowe.
After the takeover W & J Riding continued to transport Verbrugge bulk containers for many years and allocated a number of Verbrugge livered Seddon Atkinson & ERF tractor units to the on going contract.

1The first day of the contract in 1988 see’s Seddon Atkinson 4-11 4x2 tractor unit Reg No F630 SFV Fleet No 51 ‘Great Gable’, with driver David Ireland and Seddon Atkinson 4-11 4x2 tractor unit Reg No F780 SFR Fleet No 76 ‘Helvelyn’ driven by the late Vic Mason.
Tom Riding who took the photograph when the vehicles were brand new in August 1988 when the contract first began and calls this photograph the ‘Likely Lads’.

Where they the last 2 Gardner powered 4-11s at Ridings Moomooland ?
Thanks Gary

moomooland:

DEANB:
W.J.Riding Seddon Atkinson. Paul is this one under contract to a customer re the colour scheme ■■

2Seddon Atkinson 4-11 4x2 tractor unit Reg No F630 SFV Fleet No 51 ‘Great Gable’ pictured above towards the end of it’s working life at Riding’s being used as a shunter in 1996.

0Reg No F630 SFV pictured in Blackburn in 1997 after being withdrawn from W & J Riding’s fleet the previous year.
Originally purchased brand new by Riding’s on the 1st of August 1988, at a cost of £28,878, it remained in service with Riding’s for a total of eight years.
In 1996 F630 SFV was sold on to local commercial vehicle dealer Sid Hartley for £2,300 who in turn sold it on to the local fairground operator pictured above.

Back in 1987 Verbrugge Internationale Wegtransporten of the Netherlands wanted to gain a foothold in the UK market.
To enable the company to do so they initially acquired Incobulk later changing the name to Verbrugge UK Ltd and locating in Felixstowe.
After the takeover W & J Riding continued to transport Verbrugge bulk containers for many years and allocated a number of Verbrugge livered Seddon Atkinson & ERF tractor units to the on going contract.

The first day of the contract in 1988 see’s Seddon Atkinson 4-11 4x2 tractor unit Reg No F630 SFV Fleet No 51 ‘Great Gable’, with driver David Ireland and Seddon Atkinson 4-11 4x2 tractor unit Reg No F780 SFR Fleet No 76 ‘Helvelyn’ driven by the late Vic Mason.
Tom Riding who took the photograph when the vehicles were brand new in August 1988 when the contract first began and calls this photograph the ‘Likely Lads’.

Intresting stuff Paul,never knew about the Dutch connection. Great pics as usual. :smiley: :wink:

kingswinford kit:
Unisex Livestock Seddon Atkinson. Bit of an odd name ■■?

Hi Dean ,the unisex livestock SeddAtk is a S Wales motor ,BM Cole from Monmouth ,regards Keith

Thanks for the name Keith. :smiley:

gingerfold:
"tyneside"There was a Douglas Brass in the Northallerton area ran a few wagons, think they went out of the trade a few years ago. He was a distant relations of my wife but I have never met him.

Tyneside

Up to a couple of years ago a Douglas Brass Transport was still offering loads from the Northallerton / Catterick areas for flats, prefabricated timber sections. Good rates too, much better than the usual back load rates.

Thanks for the info Tyneside and Graham. :wink: I dont think i have ever heard of that company before,did they run many motors do you know ?

Some album pics. Not taken by me.

Meyer Volvo F10 from Newport.

W.H.Malcolm Volvo FL7

Freightliner Seddon.

Spiers ERF

Killingbeck Atkinsons.

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Littlewoods Scania.

MCD Guy car transporter.

Rank Hovis Leyland/DAF

Sid Knowles Bedford TM

Associated Waste Routeman.

Anyone recognise the Scania ■■?

I think we have had these on before but buggered if i can remember the name ?

Poole Trucking DAF

Anyone recognise the Commer ? First truck i ever went in as a kid. :laughing:

Anyone recognise the Mercedes ■■?

Caswell Volvo F88, from Wales i seem to remember.

Dickson Transport Atkinson.

Looks like one of Dolphin Packaging’s from Poole.

Marsh Atkinson.

Wincanton ERF

Nice photo of an MFS Scania 81 with 24ft trailer,on the Littlewoods contract. I wonder if the photo was taken at our Ross depot?
If so,the 24ft trailers were used as a drawbar config,running up to Maltby late afternoon,loading for South Wales and the South West. IIRC there were 6 trunks,four 40ft trailers and two wagon and drags every night.Sometimes Maltby drivers would do some of the trunks,I always volunteered for the Ross trunk,one of my favourite night runs.Good lads from Ross,used to have a good craic with them when I were shunting.
UWA 889S eventually ended up at Maltby for disposal along with some others,one of which was UWA 890S,a favourite unit as it could catch pigeons.
I don’t think Harry would have liked it though… :grimacing:

I think the photo of the Transcontinental is one of Bubbleman’s,hope he doesn’t mind me using it. The Ford,BWB 514T was the first of six we had and this one,fleet 153,was based at Ross depot,and is seen in another life as a potato merchant’s wagon and drag after it went in 1981/2.

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gazsa401:
Where they the last 2 Gardner powered 4-11s at Ridings Moomooland ?
Thanks Gary

Have answered your question Gary on the Riding’s thread here… trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewto … 1#p2577031

BRS Cartransport Ltd…not sure what depot it’s from though. The first job I ever had, working in the yard, at Queenborough Isle of Sheppey. Good times.

Dean could be one of Wall’s ice cream they were that colour, Buzzer

DEANB:

moomooland:
of David Hall’s of Bury shortly after they became part of the Nuttall group.
David Halls son John lived just up the road from me but sadly passed away last year.
I met him on numerous occasions and he gave me quite a number of pictures and info on his fathers company some of which is below.

Early days when David Hall’s father set up business in Walshaw near Bury.

A couple of David Halls Atkinson Borderers with David Hall & Sons Ltd Transport & Warehousing livery on the cab door but both sporting Nuttall headboards.

One of David Halls early Atkinson four wheelers being put to use during some building work on the premises in Bury.

Tuesday 1st of August 1972 and disaster struck when a fireman died while dealing with a huge fire which destroyed David Halls warehouse on Lower Woodhill Road Bury along with a number of loaded trailers.

Thanks for the pics and clipping about David Hall Paul. :smiley: :wink:

FLOURPOWER:
Hovis ERF
Another cracker great seeing all these old motors.

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FLOURPOWER:
Spillers Milling Buffalo.
WOW heartrate just gone up eight wheeler flour tanker don’t get much better than this!!!

Thought you might like that one chap. :smiley:

tastrucker:
Trevor Pye always run smart looking trucks.

hello ,Dean ,Trevor Pye ,very smart fleet from Wem Shropshire,they haul a lot of cheese from a dairy near Crewe ,thank you Trevor

I agree John,always nice to see a company that makes an effort with there colour scheme rather than the dreaded white colour scheme ! :wink:

MANTRONIC:
Gerry Jones Man

Hey Dean ,thanx for the Welsh motors ,has Paul taken a shot of Gerry Jones ,when he was running Maggies ? great stuff ,MT

Come on “MT” keep up chap,posted this one a while back ! :unamused: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :wink: Hey Dean ,but this thread moves like the wind !! but thanx both ,MT

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DEANB:
Killingbeck Atkinsons.

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This photo is one of a series of photos taken by the late Mike Deuchars of Edinburgh, arch Atkinson enthusiast and hugely knowledgeable in the subject.

Depicting the letter A, the 7 motors shown are John Killingbeck’s six 38T Atkinson 6x4 tractors, with the 32T 6x2 unit in the middle.

I know you’re expecting some detail so…

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Front left, STC 262M, started life as a rigid-6 flat with Chapman Envelopes of Darwen & Balham, and has been modelled by Corgi - incorrectly as a big 75T unit :unamused:

Front right, LCK 480N, started life with Pandoro at Fleetwood, working permanently with a Tasker low-loader:

LCK 480N Atkinson Venturer T4566C by Chris Gardner, on Flickr

After being re-powered with a Gardner 8LXB in lieu of the original ■■■■■■■ 290, and also a spell as one of John’s “Mk.3” Atkinsons with a 400 Seres cab, it was sold for preservation as an engine-less chassis cab, and has been rebuilt with a different cab and a different big ■■■■■■■■

LCK 480N 1975 Atkinson Venturer by wheelsnwings2007/Mike, on Flickr

Curiously, the original cab with its Riding sleeper conversion, and which lay on a trailer in Killingbeck’s yard for several years, was sold separately for preservation and is now on an Atkinson Defender!

LCK 480N Atkinson Venturer T4566C by Gardner 8LXB, on Flickr

Dave Lawrence Atkinson Defender by Dave Stretton, on Flickr

In the middle is MVD 432L, named by Mike Deuchars as an Atkinson ‘Buccaneer’, is now in preservation in North Yorkshire. Paul has documented it’s history here…

wjriding.webs.com/regnomvd432l.htm

(Paul Gee also caught it in its original 4x2 form whilst still with Ridings, many pages up on this astonishing thread)

No.30, second on the left hand side, is GCY 802N, originally a Defender 8-legger, and which went on to a life beyond Killingbeck (most unusual in those days, as most of the wagons were “recycled”) with John Jardine of Wishaw:

Atkinson Ventuerer, GCY 802N, John Jardine. by Chris Pattison, on Flickr

No.31, second on the right hand side, had quite a career! Like STC 262M, it started as a 6x4 flat with Chapman Envelopes:

Colin Woodburn on the move by Harry Robert Teague, on Flickr

It then became John’s very first 38T Atkinson conversion:

VTD 495M - No.31 by Mike Slater, on Flickr

It was then rebuilt with a Riding sleeper conversion and finally became the first of John Killingbeck’s ‘Mk.3’ conversions:

Atkinson Ventuerer, VTD 495M, Killingbeck Transport. by Chris Pattison, on Flickr

Fed up yet?

The other two are RAO 207M at the back left, and MWR 726P at the back right.

RAO started life as a 6x4 rigid with Edenhall Concrete of Penrith, and was rebuilt by John as a 38T tractor:

Atkinson Searcher RAO 207M by Chris Gardner, on Flickr

Like GCY 802N, it went onto a commercial life beyond Killingbeck:

RAO 207M Atkinson Searcher by Chris Gardner, on Flickr

before finally retiring into the capable hands of John Ramm:

John Ramm - RAO 207M @ Gaydon 11-06-17 by ROBERT MATTHEWS, on Flickr

Which just leaves MWR 726P, about which I know very little :blush: In fact, I don’t even know if it was a factory-built Venturer or a conversion:

Atkinson Venturer MWR 726P by Chris Gardner, on Flickr

It did become another ‘Mk.3’, and it’s in the background of this photo of VTD 495M:

Atkinson Searcher VTD 495M by Chris Gardner, on Flickr

moomooland:
Ironic really that a company from Preston were Atkinson lorries were built should also be called Atkinson.
R Atkinson was part of a number of other companys which included Atkinson Trailer Hire, Longton Haulage and Ainsworth & Martin.
Each company seemed to be owned by different combinations of the directors of R Atkinson but working from different phones in the same premises.
Chris Gardner no doubt can fill in the gaps. :smiley:

Got round to this in the end… in fact, Paul, the bit about the ownership looks likely something I’ve already written somewhere! :laughing:

In fact, Alan Atkinson (I think, one of the sons of R Atkinson) had actually trained as an engineer with Atkinson Vehicles Limited.

As the various businesses separated, he ran the trailer hire business, still very much thriving today:

Atkinson Trailer Hire T2AKA by Harry’s On The Road Truck Photos, on Flickr

M6AKA ERF by teapotcircus, on Flickr

He also has some older machinery:

HO 6459 “FRIEND RICHARD” 1925 Wallis & Stevens 10 ton Advanced Roller Alan Atkinson by wheelsnwings2007/Mike, on Flickr

Alan Atkinson Steam Cartage by 1_2, on Flickr

And finally this, not a Borderer, but a very early Mk. 2 Silver Knight, new to William Nuttall of Clifton Junction, and now fitted with a later cab:

PTD 190G 1969 Atkinson Silver Knight Alan Atkinson by wheelsnwings2007/Mike, on Flickr

It previously operated on the R Atkinson fleet, seen here in the 1985 line-up at the old factory:

Atkinson Gathering 1985 by Chris Gardner, on Flickr

And then being rebulit:

PTD 190G Atkinson ‘Silver Knight’ Mk.2 by Chris Gardner, on Flickr

moomooland:

gazsa401:
Did any of Ridings 401s or 411s survive to be restored on the vintage scene
Thanks Gary

No afraid not although you would have thought one or two would have survived being so many in the fleet over the years.

‘Novelty’ was supposedly acquired for preservation by a gentleman from Liverpool, wasn’t it?

DEANB:
Nuttall tidy Borderer.

[Ahem] Silver Knight… :laughing:

DEANB:
Anyone recognise the Scania ■■?

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I think we have had these on before but buggered if i can remember the name ?

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Poole Trucking DAF

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Anyone recognise the Commer ? First truck i ever went in as a kid. :laughing:

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Anyone recognise the Mercedes ■■?

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Caswell Volvo F88, from Wales i seem to remember.

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Dickson Transport Atkinson.

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Looks like one of Dolphin Packaging’s from Poole.

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Marsh Atkinson.

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Wincanton ERF

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Hello DEAN ,…Issac Caswell from Llanfoist Abergavenny ,…think they only had a couple of F88s , …first established in Ebbw Vale …Yes , Dean ,we have had Chryslers Dodges on before …it may have been the old man who says they were hauling cars in ckd form for export down to Newport docks …
Enjoying the modern South Wales scene …cheers both …lol …Geraint