PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[kingswinford_kit]

DEANB:
“ROF” I hope you are paying attention,Armstrong tidy F88 !

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GDJ Price Maggie from Newport.

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Mercer Volvo F10.

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I think the Seddon wrecker is pulling in a mighty Bedford TK !!!

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Norris & Sons ERF.

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Trevor Morris & Sons new Seddon Atkinson.

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C.Nixon Leyland Octupus bulker.

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Laporte bulk powder Marathon.

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South Wales Seddon Atkinson. Anyone recognise it ■■?

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Hi DEAN ,great shot of G D J Price ,Derek and Brenda Price had several Maggies including tippers ,they did Hoover Merthyr with Bell ,regards Keith

[moomooland]

W & H Brown Bulk Haulage, of Congleton Cheshire, were faithful to the Foden marque for many years.

This Foden S39, Reg No REH 370R, was new in October 1976.

[pete_smith]

pete smith:

Punchy Dan:
Dean the coopers yard picture has some memories for me ,my first being in my Dads Defender loading the same bales in the same position to go to Stanton iron works possibly around 1980 ,my Dad loaded there everyday for some 30 plus yrs ,I’ve even loaded there my self in his Erf when I first passed my test

Hi Dan,
It looks like Tony Chubb loading those bales, cannot see if the weighbridge had been moved from middle of yard to just inside the gate.
Can you remove the electric static crane? It would be just to the left of the Sed AK.
I must have tipped over 3,000 loads in that yard!
Cheers Pete

Morning Dean,
You wanted pictures, they ain’t pretty and you will put me in the bad books with the ERF men!
Photo’s took on the bottom yard at Smethwick after they had moved the 1218 baler from the top yard, the ERF used to run over the road to the rail head on top yard, where the pic Dan has commented on, 34 ton to a rail truck and 28 trucks for a full train load, that was for Aldewarke Rotherham or 90 ton per rail truck and 12 or 13 trucks to a train load and that was tin can bales or baled incinerator scrap for Port Talbot.
She lasted 2 years doing this and finally the back spring broke 2 leaves and shoved the engine through the rad and had the knife and replaced by an EC and that also had the knife when I finished in there. The E series ERF was previously owned by Ely transport Cardiff and then by Griffiths’s down past Crossgates mid Wales, a lot of useless info there for you lads, apologies Pete!

[deanb]

moomooland:
2Harrisons ran quite a number of these Fiat’s during the1970’s
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Today Lee Harrison, whose father owned Harrisons of Holmes, is the owner of Harrisons of Tarleton.
Here’s a picture Lee sent me a while back of one of the Leyland Octopus lorries that his father ran.

Thanks for the pics Paul.

smallcoal:
The Volvo is Cardiff Galv based in east moors rd Cardiff,also in Swansea my mate niel drives for them ,I done some agency work for them years ago

Thanks for the info John.

Ray Smyth:
C & W Farmers ERF bulker.

Hi Dean, The C & W Farmers ERF is “■■■■■■■■■■ & Westmorland”, the land of Dennis Smith, now called ■■■■■■■■ Regards, Ray.

Well spotted Ray. So that would have been changed to ■■■■■■■ sometime in the 70s ?
I wonder why they changed it to ■■■■■■■ ■■?

scania81:
Evening Dean,
Slightly off topic but to show Tidderson Alyesbury brs depot sign with the clearfreight logo.These photos would have been taken about 1983.
The idea was to match empty running with loads even for private hauliers.A few years later when Exel Logistics was created they actually competed for
work against BRS although all went to the same balance sheet [NFC]they were has much a threat as TDG or Salvesen,s. for contracts.Seems crazy i know.
Dai

Thanks for the comments Dai.

scania81:
The photos of the sign are not that good but you can make out Clearfreight.

kingswinford kit:
GDJ Price Maggie from Newport.

Hi DEAN ,great shot of G D J Price ,Derek and Brenda Price had several Maggies including tippers ,they did Hoover Merthyr with Bell ,regards Keith

Hello Keith,yes we have ad a fair few of Price’s on here especially earlier on in the thread.

moomooland:
1W & H Brown Bulk Haulage, of Congleton Cheshire, were faithful to the Foden marque for many years.
This Foden S39, Reg No REH 370R, was new in October 1976.

Cracking pic Paul. I do like that style of Foden full of character unlike all the modern crap that looks the
same !

pete smith:

pete smith:

Punchy Dan:
Dean the coopers yard picture has some memories for me ,my first being in my Dads Defender loading the same bales in the same position to go to Stanton iron works possibly around 1980 ,my Dad loaded there everyday for some 30 plus yrs ,I’ve even loaded there my self in his Erf when I first passed my test

Hi Dan,
It looks like Tony Chubb loading those bales, cannot see if the weighbridge had been moved from middle of yard to just inside the gate.
Can you remove the electric static crane? It would be just to the left of the Sed AK.
I must have tipped over 3,000 loads in that yard!
Cheers Pete

Morning Dean,
You wanted pictures, they ain’t pretty and you will put me in the bad books with the ERF men!
Photo’s took on the bottom yard at Smethwick after they had moved the 1218 baler from the top yard, the ERF used to run over the road to the rail head on top yard, where the pic Dan has commented on, 34 ton to a rail truck and 28 trucks for a full train load, that was for Aldewarke Rotherham or 90 ton per rail truck and 12 or 13 trucks to a train load and that was tin can bales or baled incinerator scrap for Port Talbot.
She lasted 2 years doing this and finally the back spring broke 2 leaves and shoved the engine through the rad and had the knife and replaced by an EC and that also had the knife when I finished in there. The E series ERF was previously owned by Ely transport Cardiff and then by Griffiths’s down past Crossgates mid Wales, a lot of useless info there for you lads, apologies Pete!

Thanks for the pics Pete, we dont mind “a lot of useless info” chap.

[mantronic]

kingswinford kit:

whiplash:

gazsa401:
Thanks again to Dean,Paul and Mark for their amazing efforts in keeping this site in my own opinion the best on Trucknet [emoji1303]

Wonderful.Thanks to all concerned.

Totally agree with you Whiplash,this thread indeed is nothing short of amazing!
MANTRONIC ,John Evans had quite a few drivers based at Brecon ,Talgarth and Hay ,i can remember Talgarth show and a JE AEC Mandator was an exhibit regards Keith

Keith ,thats right he did exhibit new trucks at shows ,he did that with GTH362E ,his Maggie Deutz at Carmarthen show. He claimed his was the first in Wales before Entress had thiers delivered .
At Talgarth ,show he had a Scammell handyman on display last time i attended , MT

[ray_smyth]

Hi Dean, I think it was 1974 when large areas of the UK underwent massive boundary changes.
For example…Warrington, Lancashire became Cheshire
St Helens, Lancashire became Merseyside
Stockport, Cheshire became Greater Manchester
Carlisle, ■■■■■■■■■■ became ■■■■■■■
Kendal, Westmorland became ■■■■■■■

The above are just a few of the changes up here in the North. Some Counties disappeared altogether,
Shropshire became Salop, after 1974, Rutland no longer existed, Bristol, Gloucestershire became Avon.

Lots of people ignored the new area names and continued with what they were used to. Here in Wigan,
Lancashire, I believe it was debatable in 1974 whether Wigan became Merseyside or Greater Manchester,
and we ended up as Greater Manchester, as for me, it is still Lancashire. Regards, Ray Smyth.

[5thwheel]

Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, I think it was 1974 when large areas of the UK underwent massive boundary changes.
For example…Warrington, Lancashire became Cheshire
St Helens, Lancashire became Merseyside
Stockport, Cheshire became Greater Manchester
Carlisle, ■■■■■■■■■■ became ■■■■■■■
Kendal, Westmorland became ■■■■■■■

The above are just a few of the changes up here in the North. Some Counties disappeared altogether,
Shropshire became Salop, after 1974, Rutland no longer existed, Bristol, Gloucestershire became Avon.

Lots of people ignored the new area names and continued with what they were used to. Here in Wigan,
Lancashire, I believe it was debatable in 1974 whether Wigan became Merseyside or Greater Manchester,
and we ended up as Greater Manchester, as for me, it is still Lancashire. Regards, Ray Smyth.

[5thwheel]

Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, I think it was 1974 when large areas of the UK underwent massive boundary changes.
For example…Warrington, Lancashire became Cheshire
St Helens, Lancashire became Merseyside
Stockport, Cheshire became Greater Manchester
Carlisle, ■■■■■■■■■■ became ■■■■■■■
Kendal, Westmorland became ■■■■■■■

The above are just a few of the changes up here in the North. Some Counties disappeared altogether,
Shropshire became Salop, after 1974, Rutland no longer existed, Bristol, Gloucestershire became Avon.

Lots of people ignored the new area names and continued with what they were used to. Here in Wigan,
Lancashire, I believe it was debatable in 1974 whether Wigan became Merseyside or Greater Manchester,
and we ended up as Greater Manchester, as for me, it is still Lancashire. Regards, Ray Smyth.

Ray,

Rutland is still a county in the UK,I have a relative who is employed by Rutland County Council,or he was last week?!?

David

[ray_smyth]

5thwheel:

Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, I think it was 1974 when large areas of the UK underwent massive boundary changes.
For example…Warrington, Lancashire became Cheshire
St Helens, Lancashire became Merseyside
Stockport, Cheshire became Greater Manchester
Carlisle, ■■■■■■■■■■ became ■■■■■■■
Kendal, Westmorland became ■■■■■■■

The above are just a few of the changes up here in the North. Some Counties disappeared altogether,
Shropshire became Salop, after 1974, Rutland no longer existed, Bristol, Gloucestershire became Avon.

Lots of people ignored the new area names and continued with what they were used to. Here in Wigan,
Lancashire, I believe it was debatable in 1974 whether Wigan became Merseyside or Greater Manchester,
and we ended up as Greater Manchester, as for me, it is still Lancashire. Regards, Ray Smyth.

Ray,

Rutland is still a county in the UK,I have a relative who is employed by Rutland County Council,or he was last week?!?

David

Hi David, Thank you for your comments…Yes, Rutland is still a fine county, but further to my rant concerning the
very often stupidity of idiots in government, apparently from 1974 until 1997, Oakham, the “County Town of Rutland”
became part of “The Non Metropolitan County Of Leicestershire”. Kind Regards, Ray.

[240_gardner]

Ray Smyth:

5thwheel:

Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, I think it was 1974 when large areas of the UK underwent massive boundary changes.
For example…Warrington, Lancashire became Cheshire
St Helens, Lancashire became Merseyside
Stockport, Cheshire became Greater Manchester
Carlisle, ■■■■■■■■■■ became ■■■■■■■
Kendal, Westmorland became ■■■■■■■

The above are just a few of the changes up here in the North. Some Counties disappeared altogether,
Shropshire became Salop, after 1974, Rutland no longer existed, Bristol, Gloucestershire became Avon.

Lots of people ignored the new area names and continued with what they were used to. Here in Wigan,
Lancashire, I believe it was debatable in 1974 whether Wigan became Merseyside or Greater Manchester,
and we ended up as Greater Manchester, as for me, it is still Lancashire. Regards, Ray Smyth.

Ray,

Rutland is still a county in the UK,I have a relative who is employed by Rutland County Council,or he was last week?!?

David

Hi David, Thank you for your comments…Yes, Rutland is still a fine county, but further to my rant concerning the
very often stupidity of idiots in government, apparently from 1974 until 1997, Oakham, the “County Town of Rutland”
became part of “The Non Metropolitan County Of Leicestershire”. Kind Regards, Ray.

All you need to know is here: abcounties.com/

[chris_webb]

240 Gardner:

Ray Smyth:

5thwheel:

Ray Smyth:
Hi Dean, I think it was 1974 when large areas of the UK underwent massive boundary changes.
For example…Warrington, Lancashire became Cheshire
St Helens, Lancashire became Merseyside
Stockport, Cheshire became Greater Manchester
Carlisle, ■■■■■■■■■■ became ■■■■■■■
Kendal, Westmorland became ■■■■■■■

The above are just a few of the changes up here in the North. Some Counties disappeared altogether,
Shropshire became Salop, after 1974, Rutland no longer existed, Bristol, Gloucestershire became Avon.

Lots of people ignored the new area names and continued with what they were used to. Here in Wigan,
Lancashire, I believe it was debatable in 1974 whether Wigan became Merseyside or Greater Manchester,
and we ended up as Greater Manchester, as for me, it is still Lancashire. Regards, Ray Smyth.

Ray,

Rutland is still a county in the UK,I have a relative who is employed by Rutland County Council,or he was last week?!?

David

Hi David, Thank you for your comments…Yes, Rutland is still a fine county, but further to my rant concerning the
very often stupidity of idiots in government, apparently from 1974 until 1997, Oakham, the “County Town of Rutland”
became part of “The Non Metropolitan County Of Leicestershire”. Kind Regards, Ray.

All you need to know is here: abcounties.com/

Vehicle registration index numbers were shifted about in 1974.For instance Sheffield took over HE Barnsley,DT Doncaster,ET Rotherham,HL Wakefield,AK,KU,KW,KY Bradford,WG Stirling,WF Yorks ER.

[deanb]

Thanks for all the comments on the various counties changing names etc.

[deanb]

Turners Van Transport Dodge seen here at Westbourne.

Cant make the name out on the Volvo F10.

Leyland Roadtrain.

Fairclough Atkinson.Article on page 214

Salford Van Hire Bedford TM.Article on page 36.

The Cham Express DAF.

Anyone recognise the Volvo F86 ■■?

International Win Distributors Scania.

Not sure of what LT stands for on the Maggie ■■

David Salvatori Mercedes arrivng at Poole docks.

[deanb]

Abbey Hill FIAT leaving Poole docks with new cars.

A.C.J. ERF

Army Crusader.

BRS Guy.

John Alderson Seddon Atkinson.

Thompsons Volvo F7.

Geo Langton Mercedes.

[revman]

hi Dean,Angus Stewart thinks the Fairclough Borderer is this one he restored and sold on just last week,cheers Alan

[pete_smith]

Morning Dean,
Thompsons of Crowle near Scunthorpe and an AEC Mandator of theirs, I previously posted on the AEC thread,
I did a fair few loads for Thompsons in the late 90’s, nice people to deal with and payment smack on time but sadly no more, consigned to history through mergers and a buy out, Cheer’s Pete

[deanb]

Richards & Osborne from Fraddon,Cornwall.

Article from 1966.

Click on pages twice to read.

[pv83]

ERF-NGC-European:

pv83:
Is that a original sleeper cab mate? Can’t remember having seen one before…?

Some were so-called ‘Jennings’ conversions carried out by ERF. There’s a whole thread on it! Here’s the link:

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=135704&hilit=full+sized+lv+cabbed+erfs

Robert

Cheers Robert Only saw those Jennings conversions on Atki’s… looks tidy on that ERF though.

[pv83]

Pity it’s got Leyland on it…

[240_gardner]

revman:
0hi Dean,Angus Stewart thinks the Fairclough Borderer is this one he restored and sold on just last week,cheers Alan

I wondered that too, although I thought that the photo Dean posted was MCW 387P, so perhaps a sister vehicle/ Or I’ve squinted at it and read it wrong