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DEANB ,the red drawbar looks like the Kellogs fleet but I am not sure if its a Brs Trafford park wagon as they did do the contract around that time .
Hi JAKEY,
You see a lot of those X Kellogs demount boxes in a lot of ATS Tyre places …I think the company that dispose of the old tyres must have bought a few.
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Hello Dean ,thank you for the T E Jones Daf picture ,the Sedd Atk 8 tanker looks like Mansfield sand company ,thank you Trevor
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This was prepped at Walton-le-Dale and not Oldham - you can see that the nearside bracket beneath the tail light has no badge, but four empty holes: apparently, the Atki chaps took off the SA badge and chucked it away, replacing it with the yellow Big A badge to match the number plate. When the Seddon people spotted it, they weren’t pleased, but had no replacement, and that’s why all the photos of it at that time show an empty bracket 
They put a Big A on the grille too, and made it difficult to remove 
There was a promotional film made at the same time, with operator interviews, the overwhelming majority saying Atki this that or the other, with scarcely a mention of Seddon.
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Econofreight Atkinson.
Click on once to read. From 1973.I believe that Mr Llewellin, the MD of Econofreight, used to insist on the Big A being removed - presumably he let them take the publicity shot first!
Not sure about the sleeper conversion: it looks like the ‘Nightingale’ conversion sourced via Atkinson Vehicles (London) but the side windows like different. I believe that Econofreight had several Atkis with these conversions
Thanks for your comments Chris,quite a few hauliers took the truck badges off the front as per the
brewery trucks we had on here last week. 
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Anyone recognise the Volvo draw-bar ■■?
Hi dean I think it is western tyres cause they use wagon and drag collecting tyres and I have seen it before
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Anyone recognise the Welsh DAF ■■?Hi DEAN ,the Welsh DAF is R Fowler from Cardiff ,hauled out of the rod mill ,not sure if they are still around regards Keith
Cheers Keith for the name !
JAKEY:
DEANB ,the red drawbar looks like the Kellogs fleet but I am not sure if its a Brs Trafford park wagon as they did do the contract around that time .Thanks “JAKEY”
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JAKEY:
DEANB ,the red drawbar looks like the Kellogs fleet but I am not sure if its a Brs Trafford park wagon as they did do the contract around that time .Hi Jakey and Dean, Yes, The red Volvo drawbar outfits from the mid 1990s were “Kellogs”. I met their drivers several times at Portsmouthwhilst waiting to board the ferry to Ouistreham (Caen). I got the impression that
they were Thompsons Transport from the Culcheth andGlazebury area, between Warrington and Manchester, but no connection with T & T Thompson from the same area, who I think are stilloperating today. I believe they were usually loaded for Barcelona and Valencia, then down to Almeria region to load back with fresh fruitfor the U.K. Regards Ray Smyth.Thanks for confirming it was Kellogs Ray.
marktaff:
JAKEY:
DEANB ,the red drawbar looks like the Kellogs fleet but I am not sure if its a Brs Trafford park wagon as they did do the contract around that time .Hi JAKEY, You see a lot of those X Kellogs demount boxes in a lot of ATS Tyre places …I think the company that dispose of the old tyres must have bought a few.
Cheers “marktaff”
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DEANB:
We have had a fair few Seddon Atkinson 400’s on here.Hello Dean ,thank you for the T E Jones Daf picture ,the Sedd Atk 8 tanker looks like Mansfield sand company ,thank you Trevor
Thanks Trevor.
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DEANB:
This was prepped at Walton-le-Dale and not Oldham - you can see that the nearside bracket beneath the tail light has no badge, but four empty holes: apparently, the Atki chaps took off the SA badge and chucked it away, replacing it with the yellow Big A badge to match the number plate. When the Seddon people spotted it, they weren’t pleased, but had no replacement, and that’s why all the photos of it at that time show an empty bracket
There was a promotional film made at the same time, with operator interviews, the overwhelming majority saying Atki this that or the other, with scarcely a mention of Seddon.
“chucked it away” thats a cracker Chris !
Great pictures of the 400s Dean
Here’s 2 shots of the one my Dad drove
It was written off after being rolled into a ditch on its way back fully loaded from Pedigree Petfoods in Melton
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“chucked it away” thats a cracker Chris !
The Atkinson people considered themselves and their lorries distinctly superior to the Seddon people and their cheaper and lighter vehicles
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Great pictures of the 400s Dean
Here’s 2 shots of the one my Dad drove. It was written off after being rolled into a ditch on its way back
fully loaded from Pedigree Petfoods in Melton
Thanks for the pics Gary.
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DEANB:
“chucked it away” thats a cracker Chris !The Atkinson people considered themselves and their lorries distinctly superior to the Seddon people and their cheaper and lighter vehicles
Bit more on Atkinsons and Seddon Atkinsons.
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This is the AEC Mammoth Major I used to go out in as a kid.
Glyn John Transport F88.We have had alot of there trucks they must have been a large company ?
Sooner Foods Scania.
W.F.hall & Sons DAF 2800.
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Stephens Transport ERF.
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I’m guessing this must have been part of a batch of vehicles registered by a dealer in Lancashire: J B Rawcliffe had STF 851M (it still survives, I believe, having belonged to K & P Iddon for several years), Ferrymasters in Preston had 852 & 3 (possibly 854 as well), whilst this is 855.
DEANB:
We have had a fair few Seddon Atkinson 400’s on here.Click on pages twice to read.
Hi Dean,
Seeing Rewsons 400 remember this truck brand new the guy who drove it new lived a couple of streets away from me…The rumours were back in the day that’s why I’lltyd Thomas switched from Atki’s to ERF’S. …because Prails the Atki dealers in Swansea at that time give preference to Rewson when they ordered a new Atki 400. …so Thomas’s kick them into touch and Went to Gwyn Bowens in Gorseinon and stuck with ERF’S. …that’s the story that was doing the rounds back then
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Interesting article on the Sutton’s motor: the chassis number gives it away as an Atkinson build: they reached 29941 with Atkinsons and started again at 30001 with the 400 Series. That was JTB 882P, whilst 885 and 888P were Borderers, 885P surviving today.
Oldham chassis numbers started at 60001. They used to reckon that there was a discernibly higher level of warranty claims for Oldham-built vehicles, although there was a certain partisan view, of course!
This sort of superior view from Atkinson seemed to work in their favour, many people even today think Atkinson took over Seddon or even merged instead of the opposite, I don’t think many realise how well Seddon was doing in the heavy vehicle market at the time and it seems they were quite willing to take it on the nose and allow Atkinson some leeway more than likely in the hope of holding onto Atkinson customers for the future which they probably did on the whole. I was fortunate to be able to ‘recover’ one of those Sed/Aki big A badges from a scrap vehicle, if I recall it did take some persuasion to remove it undamaged! Franky.
The quintal daf got roof panels missing
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Hello DEAN …great shot of LLoyds Bros of Gowerton …that ERF ended up with K&M Swansea …the brothers also i think had a lhd ERF unit as well …and Marathons ex Gowerton Iron and Steel …Geraint
Hi kenfig bill… Re Lloyd Bros Gowerton wasn’t their yard were Kryslyn Motors is now in Gowerton on the left before the bridge in Gowerton…I was also suprised that K & M the McDonald boys were still going …was suprised when they appeared in front of me on the M8 by Bathgate about two weeks ago.
Regards Mark
Hello DEAN and Mark ,…can not say for sure where the Lloyds Bros yard was …my father says it went by the name of Fairwood garage probably near the steelworks …Mark my father adds that some of Lloyds drivers went to the McDonald boys …and that the lhd ERF could well have been sold to Walters at Pontlliw for spares …Yes DEAN ,…the old man is just in awe of these South Wales pics you are providing …so it is thank you very much from him …that Sedd Atki 8 tipper could well be J K Williams of Penygroes …Geraint
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Hello again Dean ,the Mallon brothers MAN is actually a Saviem they had about half a dozen on woodshaving work delivering to poultry houses and the like ,they had Roman artics as well ,now long gone thank you Trevor .
Hi Dean the green F10 Volvo is ABC Transport Grimsby regards Alan
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Hello DEAN …great shot of LLoyds Bros of Gowerton …that ERF ended up with K&M Swansea …the brothers also i think had a lhd ERF unit as well …and Marathons ex Gowerton Iron and Steel …Geraint
Hi kenfig bill… Re Lloyd Bros Gowerton wasn’t their yard were Kryslyn Motors is now in Gowerton on the left before the bridge in Gowerton…I was also suprised that K & M the McDonald boys were still going …was suprised when they appeared in front of me on the M8 by Bathgate about two weeks ago.
Regards Mark
Hello DEAN and Mark ,…can not say for sure where the Lloyds Bros yard was …my father says it went by the name of Fairwood garage probably near the steelworks …Mark my father adds that some of Lloyds drivers went to the McDonald boys …and that the lhd ERF could well have been sold to Walters at Pontlliw for spares …Yes DEAN ,…the old man is just in awe of these South Wales pics you are providing …so it is thank you very much from him …that Sedd Atki 8 tipper could well be J K Williams of Penygroes …Geraint
Hi Geraint,
Yes i think that’s the same garage and yard your father as said Fairwood garage…I wouldn’t be at all suprised if Lloyd Bros ERF ended up with Walters in Pontlliw they ran a few ERF’s themself at one time…I didn’t know some of the Lloyds boys went with Ken McDonald and is boys…haven’t seem them for a long time…I think Ken is no longer with us.
