PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[240_gardner]

moomooland:
2Owner of Blackpool Van Transport Peter Haworth alongside Atkinson Borderer Reg No HXG 442 at Midgeland Road Blackpool in June 1986, HXG had just been sold on to Graham Morris for preservation.

And here it is in later life:
1972 Atkinson Borderer HXG442L by Martin Smith, on Flickr

[240_gardner]

moomooland:
1Pandoro Seddon Atkinson 400 Series day cabbed 4x2 tractor unit Reg No RBV 830P was new in March 1976.
When new it featured in some Seddon Atkinson publicity shots, Chris will have all the fine details.

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This was one of a batch of seven 400 Series, the first on the Pandoro fleet, 227-233 inclusive, and all of which were based at Stoke Depot, I think for their entire lives in service. They were also the first new vehicles on the fleet to carry the new P&O corporate livery, although the headboard used the font of the original Pandoro livery and didn’t match the lettering on the doors.

They were fitted with 250 ■■■■■■■ and 9-speed Fuller.

[pete_smith]

DEANB:
S.John F88

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Anyone recognise the Foden ■■?

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L.A.Moore ERF,bit of dodgy loading leaving the tracked machine that way round ?

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McLucas Seddon Atkinson bulker.

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W.O.Sheeran ERF

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Lancaster & Kelly Dodge. Is that an Isle of Man registration ■■

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W.A.Cooper F86

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Carver Oils Guy

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Western Freight Atkinson from Bristol.

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C.Bufton & Sons MAN

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Hi Dean,
Apologies for not picking out the pictures in question but doing this on iPad and my eyes combined with fat fingers I cannot see or do!!
The Carvers oil Guy tanker was used for storage in later years pic took from canal towpath by the looks of it, the building in the background is the old GWR Herbert Street Goods depot,sadly destroyed by fire a couple of years ago,Carvers still trade from this site
The Coopers F86, the yard was originally under what is jcn 2 of the M54, Tony Kay married Coopers daughter and that was how K transport was born, Pete

[bewick]

Message to “Gardner 240” We have a query on an N J Grose Borderer which you may be able to shed light on ! Cheers Dennis.

[240_gardner]

tastrucker:

DEANB:
This looks like an ex Riding motor Paul ■■?

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Hello DEAN ,and some lovely pictures on this site ,this Atkinson was new to Trevor Morris Oswestry ,it has a Montgomery reg ,as Trevors family was from Llanfechain ,thank you Trevor .

Would appear to be a Riding sleeper conversion, though

Now there’s a question for Paul, next time you see Tom: how many sleeper conversions did W&J carry out for other operators??

I believe that the Pandoro Venturer, LCK 480N, was the last one carried out: I well remember collecting it one Sunday afternoon from Longridge, late in 1981.

LCK 480N Atkinson Venturer T4566C by Gardner 8LXB, on Flickr

[robthedog]

DEANB:
Broads F88.Looks like its on traction work from a dock somewhere,looking at the trailer ?

SCAC Out of Pompey docks I would say

[deanb]

moomooland:
0That’s a Foden S80 operated by mail-order catalogue company Kay & Co Ltd, otherwise known as Kays.
The company had offices and warehouses in Worcester, Leeds, Glasgow, Newtown, Bradford, Bristol, Droitwich, Lancaster and York.
On the 23rd of February 2007 Kays original depot in Worcester closed as part of the work to amalgamate Kays and Littlewoods under the new brand name ‘Shop Direct’.

I can remember Kays catalogue company as my mum had one of there catalogues ! How did you know that
was there motor Paul,just the colour scheme ■■

Chris Webb:
Lancaster & Kelly Dodge. Is that an Isle of Man registration ■■

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Lancaster and Kelly were Isle of Man hauliers at one time,then I think they went into household removals with a yard in either Glen Vine or Crosby. I’ve not seen them around for ages though.Not my photo…

Thanks for confirming Chris,nice pic chap !

moomooland:
2Lancaster & Kelly are a removals, storage and shipping company based on the Isle of Man.

1Here’s one of Lancaster & Kelly’s Atkinson’s parked in the graveyard on the Isle of Man.

0Lancaster & Kelly still in business today.

Thanks Paul,old atki looks tired !

joeshell:

Hello “joeshell” i think you forgot to write a message ■■?

240 Gardner:

DEANB:
Eastern roadways Scania. Are they part of the P & O Group ■■?

Yes they were - see last week’s essay on P&O

Eastern Roadways International was based in Ruskington and seemed to be more about heavy haulage than anything else. In my bit of P&O (Pandoro) we didn’t have anything to do with them operationally.

Forgot about that Chris !

240 Gardner:

moomooland:
2Owner of Blackpool Van Transport Peter Haworth alongside Atkinson Borderer Reg No HXG 442 at Midgeland Road Blackpool in June 1986, HXG had just been sold on to Graham Morris for preservation.

If anyone is intrested in this Atki i posted an article about it on page 68 !

240 Gardner:

moomooland:
1Pandoro Seddon Atkinson 400 Series day cabbed 4x2 tractor unit Reg No RBV 830P was new in March 1976.
When new it featured in some Seddon Atkinson publicity shots, Chris will have all the fine details.

0

This was one of a batch of seven 400 Series, the first on the Pandoro fleet, 227-233 inclusive, and all of which were based at Stoke Depot, I think for their entire lives in service. They were also the first new vehicles on the fleet to carry the new P&O corporate livery, although the headboard used the font of the original Pandoro livery and didn’t match the lettering on the doors.

They were fitted with 250 ■■■■■■■ and 9-speed Fuller.

Thanks Chris !

Bewick:
Message to “Gardner 240” We have a query on an N J Grose Borderer which you may be able to shed light on ! Cheers Dennis.

240 Gardner:

tastrucker:

DEANB:
This looks like an ex Riding motor Paul ■■?

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Hello DEAN ,and some lovely pictures on this site ,this Atkinson was new to Trevor Morris Oswestry ,it has a Montgomery reg ,as Trevors family was from Llanfechain ,thank you Trevor .

Would appear to be a Riding sleeper conversion, though

Now there’s a question for Paul, next time you see Tom: how many sleeper conversions did W&J carry out for other operators??

I believe that the Pandoro Venturer, LCK 480N, was the last one carried out: I well remember collecting it one Sunday afternoon from Longridge, late in 1981.

LCK 480N Atkinson Venturer T4566C by Gardner 8LXB, on Flickr

Nice pic Chris !

[deanb]

pete smith:

DEANB:
Carver Oils Guy

Hi Dean,
Apologies for not picking out the pictures in question but doing this on iPad and my eyes combined with fat fingers I cannot see or do!!
The Carvers oil Guy tanker was used for storage in later years pic took from canal towpath by the looks of it, the building in the background is the old GWR Herbert Street Goods depot,sadly destroyed by fire a couple of years ago,Carvers still trade from this site
The Coopers F86, the yard was originally under what is jcn 2 of the M54, Tony Kay married Coopers daughter and that was how K transport was born, Pete

Hello Pete, Thanks for the info on the Carvers tanker. It looks like it was pretty tired in that pic so would imagine
it was being used for storage like you said. Here’s another pic of it.

[moomooland]

DEANB:
I can remember Kays catalogue company as my mum had one of there catalogues ! How did you know that
was there motor Paul,just the colour scheme ■■

Great Universal acquired Kay & Company Ltd in 1937 and continued to run the Kays catalogue as a separate title within the GUS holding company.
Below is a shot of one of Kays Worcester based Leyland Mastiff’s hauling a Great Universal trailer.
GUS was swallowed up by Littlewoods in 2004 and today it is now known as Shop Direct with most of their mail order distribution carried out by Yodel.

By the way Dean this thread has just passed 100,000 views a credit to you, Paul and Mark.

[dieseldog66]

This one is Cartransport (BRS) probably acquired with the take over of Lathams

[kingswinford_kit]

Hey DEAN ,thanx for the Owens Borderer ! ,they had about 10 of them working 24/7 between Llanelli radiators and Longbridge ,they were mostly second hand from Metal Box Aintree and a few from Morfa transport . A couple ended up as shunters . Great shots of the Mordov Atki ,and Ellis Morgan TM ,regards Keith .

[moomooland]

W.D. & H.O. Wills was one was one of the founding companies of Imperial Tobacco.
From 1960 Imperial developed a strategy aimed towards diversification and away from its focus on tobacco.
This saw a move towards the food, drink and leisure industries and began in earnest with the acquisition of Golden Wonder.
In 1967 the company made bought the HP Sauce Group with its many subsidiaries, including Lea & Perrins.
This was followed by the National Canning Company (Smedley’s), taking Imperial into frozen foods and further into tinned foods.
A huge addition came in 1969 with the Ross Group at which time Imperial then changed its name to Imperial Tobacco Group Limited.
After that between 1986 and 1996 came the Hanson years during which time most of the group was sold off and split up.

Another member of the Imperial Tobacco Group was and still is John Player & Sons.

Imperial Brands History

[casual_observer]

moomooland:

I know the Mercury wasn’t the biggest unit & that trailers would bulk out before reaching max weight, but even at that , it looks to be a fairly tall trailer for its day

[pete_smith]

moomooland:
1W.D. & H.O. Wills was one was one of the founding companies of Imperial Tobacco.
From 1960 Imperial developed a strategy aimed towards diversification and away from its focus on tobacco.
This saw a move towards the food, drink and leisure industries and began in earnest with the acquisition of Golden Wonder.
In 1967 the company made bought the HP Sauce Group with its many subsidiaries, including Lea & Perrins.
This was followed by the National Canning Company (Smedley’s), taking Imperial into frozen foods and further into tinned foods.
A huge addition came in 1969 with the Ross Group at which time Imperial then changed its name to Imperial Tobacco Group Limited.
After that between 1986 and 1996 came the Hanson years during which time most of the group was sold off and split up.
0Another member of the Imperial Tobacco Group was and still is John Player & Sons.

Imperial Brands History

Paul will you please stop putting pictures of cigarette liveried vehicles on? I have not had a ■■■ for nearly 3 weeks now, 40 a day man!, and Embassy number one was the cigarette of my choice!!!

[moomooland]

pete smith:
Paul will you please stop putting pictures of cigarette liveried vehicles on? I have not had a ■■■ for nearly 3 weeks now, 40 a day man!, and Embassy number one was the cigarette of my choice!!!

Ok will do.
Here’s one for the road

[deanb]

robthedog:

DEANB:
Broads F88.Looks like its on traction work from a dock somewhere,looking at the trailer ?

SCAC Out of Pompey docks I would say

Thanks “robthedog” for your comment !

moomooland:
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DEANB:
I can remember Kays catalogue company as my mum had one of there catalogues ! How did you know that
was there motor Paul,just the colour scheme ■■

Great Universal acquired Kay & Company Ltd in 1937 and continued to run the Kays catalogue as a separate title within the GUS holding company.
Below is a shot of one of Kays Worcester based Leyland Mastiff’s hauling a Great Universal trailer.
GUS was swallowed up by Littlewoods in 2004 and today it is now known as Shop Direct with most of their mail order distribution carried out by Yodel.
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By the way Dean this thread has just passed 100,000 views a credit to you, Paul and Mark.

Thanks Paul for that information and another good pic ! Reckon we had better start on the
next 100,000 and a big thankyou for all of your input to this thread !

kingswinford kit:
Hey DEAN ,thanx for the Owens Borderer ! ,they had about 10 of them working 24/7 between Llanelli radiators and Longbridge ,they were mostly second hand from Metal Box Aintree and a few from Morfa transport . A couple ended up as shunters . Great shots of the Mordov Atki ,and Ellis Morgan TM ,regards Keith .

Thanks Keith for the info,theres more Welsh pics to come !

moomooland:
1W.D. & H.O. Wills was one was one of the founding companies of Imperial Tobacco.
From 1960 Imperial developed a strategy aimed towards diversification and away from its focus on tobacco.
This saw a move towards the food, drink and leisure industries and began in earnest with the acquisition of Golden Wonder.
In 1967 the company made bought the HP Sauce Group with its many subsidiaries, including Lea & Perrins.
This was followed by the National Canning Company (Smedley’s), taking Imperial into frozen foods and further into tinned foods.
A huge addition came in 1969 with the Ross Group at which time Imperial then changed its name to Imperial Tobacco Group Limited.
After that between 1986 and 1996 came the Hanson years during which time most of the group was sold off and split up.
0Another member of the Imperial Tobacco Group was and still is John Player & Sons.

Imperial Brands History

Good stuff chap !

Casual Observer:

moomooland:

I know the Mercury wasn’t the biggest unit & that trailers would bulk out before reaching max weight, but even at that , it looks to be a fairly tall trailer for its day

I dont suppose cigarettes weight that much “Casual Observer” so probably use as larger trailer
as possible ?

pete smith:
Paul will you please stop putting pictures of cigarette liveried vehicles on? I have not had a ■■■ for nearly 3 weeks now, 40 a day man!, and Embassy number one was the cigarette of my choice!!!

Congratulations on giving up Pete !

moomooland:

pete smith:
Paul will you please stop putting pictures of cigarette liveried vehicles on? I have not had a ■■■ for nearly 3 weeks now, 40 a day man!, and Embassy number one was the cigarette of my choice!!!

Ok will do.
Here’s one for the road

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Thats cruel Paul !

[deanb]

Dieseldog66:
This one is Cartransport (BRS) probably acquired with the take over of Lathams

Heres you go “Dieseldog66” a few more transporters and a bit about Lathams. Hope your paying attention
as well Oily !

Lathams,click on page twice to view !

[deanb]

Here you go “Punchy Dan”

W.H.Phillips from Wirksworth. I reckon “Bonkey Dollocks” may be the man to ask Dan for pic’s of this
company !

[deanb]

Smith & Robinson F88 tanker. Am i right in thinking that the exhaust had to be moved to the front is
something to do with tanker haulage regulations ■■?

Co-op ERF

Anyone recognise the F7 ■■?

P H Foods DAF

Mike Lawrence Scania low loader.

E & J Meeks Volvo F7 ,think “smallcoal” said he drove for them !

Teagle Bedford

A.B.Carter Routeman.

Talbot transport Albion.

Seddon Atkinson of Clugston.

[casual_observer]

DEANB:
I know the Mercury wasn’t the biggest unit & that trailers would bulk out before reaching max weight , but even at that , it looks to be a fairly tall trailer for its day

I dont suppose cigarettes weight that much “Casual Observer” so probably use as larger trailer
as possible ?
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