Spot on! Yes, that’s where I’ve seen and used them. The Eaton ‘S’ for synchro 12 and 16-sp lever looks like that.
That’s easy, then! Tank up with few strong ales and fire up the nearest Fuller-equipped wagon. It’ll all come back in a jiffy!
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I reckon its a local coachworks that’s had a crack at the lorry cab.
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Pics on the scammell thread with explanation from Moomooland…page/item no 134
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I’m going to ask a stupid question now (nothing new … i can hear you) so why would you call that an eight speed but a Roadranger a nine speed when the only difference is the gear change pattern.Come to think of that i’m sure the Foden i had was fitted with a Fuller with the same pattern as the one photographed.Both eight speed plus a crawler???
Genius detective work.
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Yep half a doz pints at 44 tonnne…what could possiblly go wrong.
I can’t say much about the Fuller 9-speed but the Eaton synchro box was a 4-over-4 range change with a crawler, which I suppose makes a 9-speed. It’s all terminill.. terim..terriblllogical you see.
Have you put weight on Robroy i thought my 17.5 - 18 stone was a bit much but 44 ton well ……
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Yeah that’s what i meant 4 over 4 with a crawler 9 speed. I too have never heard of a Fuller synchro .They would have to make autos only now for the new boys
I drove the Eaton syncro box in some ERF ECs, all ECS and ECX models. Vastly inferior to the constant-mesh versions, in my view.
By the time you got into top gear (multiple times), you’d need to stop for a leak. 
Nah …I’d probably be asleep.
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It was never a problem years ago 
but then they brought in autos and you could fall asleep 'cos you has nowt to do!
Eaton made a 6 speed synchro for lighter weight vehicles for years, but the heavy duty S type was short lived. It was introduced by Eaton Europe as a matter of self-preservation. The Road Ranger was already killed off by the drive-by noise limits introduced as a part of Euro 2 emissions legislation, the same rules that ended Jake brakes in Europe, and the twin splitter was becoming increasingly difficult to sell into large fleets and hire companies because whilst those who could drive it, loved it, mainly, many new passes would simply refuse to driven one. So, they developed, maybe too quickly, a synchro 8, 12 and 16 speed, and whilst they were lighter to use than a ZF, they were very troublesome, especially if fitted with a pto. I knew a company who had several MANs with 16 speeds fitted with twin power take offs, one to drive a powder compressor and a hydraulic pump, he struggled to get a year out of the Eaton synchro, his experience was not unique. Eaton gave up to it, and Eaton Europe all but disappeared shortly after.
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It can be done quite successfully with proper training. I’m not sure it would work in a COE, but it does in a conventional.
Simply lower the seat to its lowest level, grab the steering wheel at quarter to three, lift both thumbs to vertical and keep the road between them. If necessary, one eye may be closed with the head cocked.
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White, the spiritual predecessor to Western Star.
