Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 2)

Not quite. You need one plate at the front and rear of the LOAD part (ie the body) of the prime mover. And a plate at the front and back of the trailer.

Traditionally, you were meant (although this was not usually enforced) to place the TIR plate on the nearside of the vehicle, depending whether you had LHD or RHD but this never seemed to be an issue in practice.

I’ve no idea where you got that idea/rule from. I’ve never heard of it. But if it exists, I’ll bet it refers to drawbar outfits. ie the TIR plate should be visible behind the cab of drawbar prime-mover. Makes sense.

Maybe you are forgetting that in addition to the TIR Carnet, you also had the Triptych document which apertained to the vehicle itself, and its trailer.

Would have made a decent sleeper pod :grinning_face:

Nowadays someone would have that on airbnb.

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It’s all a bit of a mystery Ro.
But as I remembered it in those early days after leaving school, naively taking for granted and mapping out my future as an international truck driver, helped by already having lots of continental family holiday road trips behind me, this is generally how I remembered seeing TIR plate placement.
In addition to those classic opening scenes of Il Bestione seeming to confirm it.More relevant to a Brit than Convoy if relatively less impressive.

There’s no ‘I think’ about it, our hero knows EVERYTHING.

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Discovered this pic from a very old thread. Would this have been a genuine Scania or another older chassis that had been re-cabbed? Cant ever recall seeing a Chinese six Scania before

Hey Carryfast is that you in the passenger side of the Marathon then?? :wink:

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It’ can’t be as there is no A frame trailer on a hub to hub run in 1902.

Brings back memories from back in the day especially the Olympic breakfast, Buzzer

The gammon steak always seemed good value but yes, the olympic was a belly filler!

I like the dual ÂŁsd and new pence prices!
D Day (decimalisation day) was Feb 1971.

I seem to remember a pint of Watneys Starlight being about half-a crown or 2/6 or two and six, or 12 and a half pee.
And yes…Starlight was pee…

I remember going shopping as a kid with my dear old Gran.
She hadn’t a clue about the ‘new money’ where as we were taught it in school, it was my job to keep her right.:grin:
There was an old guy stood there with an old sixpence (2 and half p) obviously worth a lot more at that time arguing with the lass behind the counter trying to buy something for 6p,.that sort of thing was quite common at that time.

I remember those 3D cards, size of a debit card, when you moved it one way it was old money,.the other way new money…a converter.
A god send to my Gran and Granda.:grin:

I didn’t even have a car licence then was more interested in getting the hell of school days over and done with if that’s a new N reg.
But ironically the face fits elitism was clear even there.
According to the story line ‘Only’ a short Ostende run on the record not yet considered good enough to run down to Italy.
So Leyland chose an well known actor for the role not someone picked by lottery raffle from the ranks of the RTITB young drivers’ scheme.Says it all.

You questioned that a short Ostende run didn’t qualify the rookie to run down to Genoa. The reason for that, especially back in the '70s and '80s was that drivers who didn’t really understand how to hold back a fully-freighted artic with drum brakes on the old pre-motorway mountain roads could not be trusted to take a wagon out to Genoa. Simple.

Well, CF, you’re only about two years out: the RTITB Young Drivers’ Scheme was destined to commence in September 1976. That Leyland piece was filmed in 1974.

Leyland’s choice of well-known actor to act the dummy was offset by the senior driver of the Marathon Mk 1, Dick Rivers. Dick was a Leyland test driver and representative of Leyland. He also drove the Marathon 2 in Destination Doha. He was to Leyland what Peter Davies was to Bedford and Richard Kingston was to DAF (both of whom I’ve met, BTW). Dick, alas is no longer with us.

You spoke earlier up the page as remembering lorries with TIR-plates on the units. You remember correctly. It was common practice. That doesn’t mean it was necessary.

I was interested to note the trailer on the Italian-bound truck appeared to be an ISO shipping container, suggesting multi-modal. A closer looks shows that it was one of those bandit-proof container look-alike integral ‘ribbed for extra pleasure’ trailers. Ideal in those days for carrying whiskey to bandit country!

That double-drive Marathon on the Italian trip was a one-off. I don’t know whether you’d describe it as a pre-production model or a prototype. But it uniquely had a Cummins 335 engine (presumably NTC 335, so small-cam) and a 9-sp Fuller. The Fuller was apparently a very slick installation, unlike the installation in later Marathons. Dick Rivers later, in November '74, drove it with an Astran trailer to Tehran.

Once again, I hope a bit of background info here helps.



The Marathon in Destination Doha wasn’t a Marathon 2 it was the original model before a few niggles were ironed out. Unimportant things like poor brakes and crap heater. Apparently the Marathon 2 was a big improvement

That’s quite correct ramone, thank you: I’d overlooked the badge!

A handful of flickr links:

According to the comments, this old girl used to do ME runs.
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An amuse bouche for our man in Leatherhead.
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And a (scrapped) Berliet that was infamous (see fat lad’s comment)
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