TIR was/is an important protocol for international work.
It would be interesting to find out the exact date when it was replaced by the CTS for destinations within Euroland.
As stated there were a lot of wanabees who stuck the plates on numerous types of trucks doing UK work.
Don’t get how the idea of fixing the front plate to the front of an artic trailer would comply with the rule mustn’t be obscured by ( behind ) the cab.
Wrong! Here, at least. I had a Landrover Series 2A, diesel LWB safari, 1964 vintage. It had headlamps in the radiator ambit like the earlier ones.
I drove a 1949 series 1 Landrover. Sweet as a nut. Lovely old girl. 
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You really don’t understand TIR do you! 
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Maybe someone with a better knowledge could explain it to the man, and me, TIR
Was it a legal requirement at anytime
Was there only certain routes you could take like the ones sign posted
Was it only used for certain loads or any loads
Did you have to be a member of an organisation
What does TIR stand for
Apparently only export models had the headlights moved to the wings, on the lla.
Pure conjecture on my part, but probably to comply with USA legislation.
Here too, but prices have fallen since the rediculous highs during the height of covid. Any original Defender commands serious money.
It’s in Australia they utilised what was at their disposal to get the job done
The headlights on Land rovers moved to the front wings in 1968, late series 2a from 68 to 71 had them in the wings together with a larger steel grill. The plastic grill only came in with the series 3 in 1971
T.B
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Transportes Internationeaux Routiers…or International Road Transport.
(Not ’ ‘‘Towed In Regularly’’ as an old hand once told me 
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We were always told that TIR stood for “Till I Return” Buzzer 
It’s one of Bewicks old motors
That Leyland is a fine old workhorse, I love seeing pictures of vehicles, work stained, a bit battered, and used to hard graft.
It was and still is a relevant and arguably a most efficient way of transitting multiple countries with goods under customs bond.
It obviously helps to speed up the process if border staff can see a clear TIR load identification, shown on the front of the vehicle, on approach to the border crossing point.Just as shown in the opening scenes of Il Bestione.
Transportes Internationaux Routiers, customs transit protocol.
Ro can correct me if I’m wrong.
To be fair I did ask the questions if ( according to you ) a TIR plate, being put on the front of a tractor unit, would mean sealing the unit to the trailer what was the method of sealing the coupling ?.
Where is any such requirement shown in the regs ?.
As opposed to the requirement that the front plate must not be obscured by the vehicle cab.
Also how would it comply with cross referencing the plate and the vehicle reg number on the carnet, with the load ?.
Assuming the unit reg number, not a trailer reg number, obviously in the case of UK reg vehicles at least.
Are you saying that a drawbar outfit would actually have 4 TIR plates front and rear of the prime mover and front and rear of the trailer ?.
While obviously knowing absolutely nothing yes I could foresee the possibility of maybe relay trailer swaps or multi modal operations as part of a TIR operation.
In which case yes maybe then requiring some creative TIR identification plate locations on trailers and some expensive relavant carnet entries made by proper shipping agents for attention of the relevant border crossings on route.That the vehicle registrations will be different at some crossings than others, but the load and trailer or container will be the same.
Similar to if a change of routing and relevant border crossings became necessary ?.
Over to you you’re the expert who’s been there done it.
I didn’t quite say that. When I answered your questions in the first round, I mentioned that we were required to place TIR plates fore and aft the sealed semi-trailer. And I went on to say that the tractor, not being a sealed loadspace, required no plate. I further stated that because some countries (Turkey and Saudi spring to mind) decided to start sealing the tractor at the turntable pin, they preferred to see a plate on the unit too. But they weren’t sealing the pin because of TIR regs, they were doing that for the unrelated reason that they wanted to keep tabs on the unit and make sure the a complete vehicle entered and exited the country (like stamps in passport).
This would only apply to a drawbar outfit
As stated above, it didn’t need to. Sealing the unit turntable was not a TIR requirement.
Yes, that’s correct.