Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 2)

Can I ask you what drive axle was in your Borderer as a couple of M reg ones I ran both had the Kirkstall D85 HR axle with one having the DB 6:600 box and the other had the 9509 box. I had other Borderers L 's & P’s that had the D85 axle and some with the poxy Seddon Group axle which was foisted onto Atkinsons after their takeover by Seddon . Cheers Dennis.

Loved that SDU, I was a brand new 21 year old lorry driver and can still now rattle off 99% of all the vehicles shown in that, I even recognised the horse. :rofl:

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Yep dead right Dennis…a group axle.:roll_eyes:

The thing went with me at Bamber Bridge.
I managed to get it on the estate, parked it up.

I bought a used one off Walsh & Dearden, at nearby Darwen, (can’t recall if it was Rockwell or Kirkstall, but certainly not another Group one)

Next weekend, me and 2 mates picked up the axle, and fitted it the thing on the estate…(well I was the labourer let’s say, maybe even a hinderance .:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: )
Those 2 lads knew what they were doing anyhoo.

I went on to later replace the Atki with a DAF 2800…another bad move, especially when I had the chance of an immaculate ex owner driver Scania 111, but went for the (much) cheaper option…false economy as it turned out, but a hard learned lesson.

On the subject of Atkinsons,i can remember seeing a pic of a “guardsman”? I think it was taken at a motor show in the late 60s and was destined for Bulwark from Chippenham. The cab looked modern(for the day)and only a few were made

That would have been the 1964 motor show, where it was unveiled. It had a Cummins 235 bhp V8 engine, which didn’t really appeal to Atkinson customers. The ‘tin front’ look didn’t appeal either, as Atkinson men preferred an exposed radiator. That’s why, if you remember, Atkinson fitted a dummy radiator to the front of the Borderer so it still looked like a proper lorry. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Thanks for the reply and posting the pic. Any idea how many were made?

I’m afraid I don’t know. ‘Only a few were sold’ appears in one caption.

That actually or slightly resembles the Sed Atk 400…or is it just my dodgy eyesight.:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Yes, I can see the vague resemblance, though the 400 was a Motor Panels cab and I don’t think the Guardsman was…

Was thinking the very same. As an aside. Where are you wacthing the game?

Something different, Buzzer


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SCANIA

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I watched it in Spoons mate.
Bonus was I watched it with 2 Scouser fans…loving it.:smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

The first one is an East-German IFA W 50L.

IFA = ‘In Front Again’! Those gutless worker-state little lorries always got under your feet in East Europe in those days.

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Fitted with a 125 bhp 6.5 litres 6-cyl. diesel. Roughly the same as the Leyland O 400 engine fitted on the Albion Super-Reiver ar Leyland Super-Comet of the same times.

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Someone else who didn’t get the memo. It’s been suggested that the slightly higher powered F7 was no good for pulling parcels up the M1 on trunking work whereas this bloke managed a trip to the Middle East with his F86. There’s some that could and some that … well i’ll let you fill in the gaps

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@ramone I’m hearing ya.

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Without even a proper sleeper!

Excellent sleuthing @ramone, worse still the F86 and its successor had synchromesh gearboxes which, according to the person alluded to, considers as the worst blight on all trucks ever. How did the F86 driver manage such a feat?

Well every second counts on trunking 5 tons of parcels on the M1 . :grin:

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