Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

New Zealand and long drawbar tipping youtube.com/watch?v=9V-EVhQv6yk
Oily

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And a couple to keep Dean happy… :unamused:

Great pics Patrick ,especially like the first one. The Irish had some great looking fridge motors. :wink:

Volvo F88 advert.

Hi Oily, watching this NZ long drawbar video bears out a conversation I had with a Maori lad driving a similar six wheeler drawbar outfit at a geo-thermal power station near Rotarua in NZ North Island back in 2007 when he reckoned that he could fasten the trailer tailgate pin by barely getting out of his cab which I took with a pinch of salt, but seeing these videos almost prove his point.
Here is a shot of a Fonterra Dairy Scania and a long drawbar 8 wheeled tanker trailer turning into Hawera Dairy, Taranaki (reputed to be the largest dairy in the world) when on holiday in NZ 2007. Fonterra were just in the process of changing from a Foden fleet to Scania at the time.

Been past Chas. Longs yard in Catterick a few times recently and they certainly have an impressive set up there. A nice tidy and clean fleet of artic and eight legger tippers as well, a fleet to be proud of for sure and with excellent servicing facilities.

Pete.

The LJS Scania 6-axled artic tipper from Settle looks to have a short wheelbase,does that affect the gross weight nowadays?
I only ask because years ago longer wheelbases meant higher gross weights.

Leyland600:
Hi Oily, watching this NZ long drawbar video bears out a conversation I had with a Maori lad driving a similar six wheeler drawbar outfit at a geo-thermal power station near Rotarua in NZ North Island back in 2007 when he reckoned that he could fasten the trailer tailgate pin by barely getting out of his cab which I took with a pinch of salt, but seeing these videos almost prove his point.

And that reminds me of when I was working for Wimpey building the Notts section of the M1 back in about '65, I think.

No drawbars of course, but we could unlock and relock the tailgate without leaving the cab, by means of a long lever on the front of the body. The trick was to start the body tipping and then lean out of the door and grab the lever as it was going up, Hang on and this dragged it down. Same thing in reverse after tipping.

However, one night I was distracted and forgot the lever as it went up. Got to the top of the rams and, with all the weight now thrown behind the rear axles, the front of the motor rose into the air before stopping and balancing precariously on the bogie.

How to get it down? The lever was up in the air and no way was I going to climb up and release it. Couldn’t dig out, too dangerous. So grabbed a heavy lump hammer and set to work banging the locking hook but, unnoticed by me, the banksman who had never seen under a lorry before, decided to go and have a look. Just as he got his head under I was successful with the hook, the gate flew open, all the muck shot out and the vehicle then descended at a high rate of knots, narrowly missing said banksman. :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing:

He didn’t do that again, but then, neither did I. :blush:

In answer to one of the comments under the video as to why hasn’t someone written this process down. Well they have. Me. Or similar anyway. When I worked at Toray during a temporary blocking of the road that went round the factory we didn’t have room to turn the drawbars after loading/unloading, so I devised a similar system of jacknifing as far as possible, then un-coupling and reversing out to a place to turn the wagon then reversing in again to couple up and drive the whole thing forward. The space required was just over the length of the trailer. This was much easier (and more acceptable to non lorry professional higher management) than reversing a wagon and drag in and out of parked cars, moving forktrucks and silly people.

But they insisted that I fully investigated the method, including everything that could possibly go wrong, and then write it up in an official SOP (Standard Operating Procedure). I bet it is still there somewhere in a dusty filing cabinet even though that factory and the lorries they owned, no longer exist. :slight_smile:

Thanks to DEANB and Leyland 600 for the pics :smiley: :smiley: and the craic on tippers :smiley:
Oily
Dean has prompted a few F88s, all thanks to the late Ronnie Cameron(RIP), an avid snapper, collector and good friend who attended shows and visited haulage yards throughout the country. The Lance Biscomb one is a Jim Beresford photo. I remember Ronnie telling me that Jim Beresford(A J Beresford Sutton on the Forest) entrusted him with his own considerable photo collection of Beresford wagons.

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A 35 tonne digger bucket swap today at cwt y bugail slate mine ,apparently the Crown Jewels and national tressures were put in there during the war and it is britains highest work place with full time staff .a bit of a diversion though to avoid a 10ft 6 bridge on the only road up to it via a farm through a small river and up some fields a through 5 gates .

Punchy Dan:
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A 35 tonne digger bucket swap today at cwt y bugail slate mine ,apparently the Crown Jewels and national tressures were put in there during the war and it is britains highest work place with full time staff .a bit of a diversion though to avoid a 10ft 6 bridge on the only road up to it via a farm through a small river and up some fields a through 5 gates .

Intrepid trucking there Dan.!

Heres a one for Harry, Regards Larry.

Thanks to Punchy Dan and Lawrence Dunbar for the pics :smiley: :smiley:
Oily

A9 at Ardullie Easter Ross.

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Punchy Dan:
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A 35 tonne digger bucket swap today at cwt y bugail slate mine ,apparently the Crown Jewels and national tressures were put in there during the war and it is britains highest work place with full time staff .a bit of a diversion though to avoid a 10ft 6 bridge on the only road up to it via a farm through a small river and up some fields a through 5 gates .

Intrepid trucking there Dan.!

Much more interesting- and remunerative- than having breakfast with a group of old lorry drivers!

This for Mr Dunbar, it was a gift a few years ago, I am not partial to the dram unless heavily diluted, which of course is sacrilege to the worst degree, anyway The MACALLAN being the king of all malts is a total waste in my possession other than to appreciate in value :laughing:
Oily

French variety all thanks to Dave Fawcett.
Oily

image.jpega pig of a trailer today :cry:

oiltreader:
French variety all thanks to Dave Fawcett.
Oily

At a time, I used to drive a truck similar to the one on last picture. Typically French, they were designed to carry iron rods and sheets. The access to the cab was awkward, especially when loaded, and the central drive made it difficult to keep on the right side ot the road!

Froggy55:

oiltreader:
French variety all thanks to Dave Fawcett.
Oily

At a time, I used to drive a truck similar to the one on last picture. Typically French, they were designed to carry iron rods and sheets. The access to the cab was awkward, especially when loaded, and the central drive made it difficult to keep on the right side ot the road!

Froggy,

I have seen many of a similar set up here in Portugal,over length steel rods,bars etc,sometimes over length timber too,strange looking beasts,the cab is central so it’s loaded both side of the cab,can’t imagine how the driver gets in!

David