Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

[oiltreader]

Seddon Atkinson.
Oily

[oiltreader]

Thanks to lespullan, OssieD, kmills, pv83 and lurpak for the pics

Dashcam still, M40 Services last year, bit puzzled what the load is, guessing along the lines of cab or axles pallets on return from LeyLandDaf to Holland.
Oily

[lespullan]

Tippers from Fotki, Flickr and Pinterest.

[kmills]

pv83:

kmills:
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Night time changeovers for Collins - enough lights you think? - can anyone rotate them?, and the K200 I normally drive, unusually on tautliner work last week, loading in Collins’ yard Melbourne, back to Adelaide.
Not sure what has changed here - my pics used to come up the right way!

Nice pic’s there mate!
Now, forgive me my ignorance, but how’s the handling of that “US iron” compared to what we have here in the old world…?
Mate of mine lives up in Canada, and he’s been driving with Kenworth’s and Peterbilt’s and it’s not all that bad, but it’s still miles away from the comfort of any european make…?

Cheers, Patrick

I think you sum it up Patrick - not all that bad, but…
Even the new Kenworth K200 still doesn’t have any cab suspension, I find that the clutch and brake pedal are either ‘on’ or ‘off’ - it’s very hard to be smooth with it. Even empty, you have to pull away in either crawler, or 1st gear, the clutch heats up and becomes very sharp otherwise.
European trucks still have a bit of an ‘image’ problem here in Australia - many drivers wont drive them cos they’re ‘soft’. Really!
Personally, give me a smooth European truck anytime, and if it has a Scania badge on the front, all the better.
The major downside to European trucks here in Aus, are the parts prices, which tend to be very expensive compared to Australian built Kenworths and Macks etc…
There is more and more of a European influence on the Australian built ‘US’ trucks tho - for instance if you buy a new Mack, it comes standard with a Volvo engine, and ‘I’ shift gearbox - re-branded as ‘M’ Drive.
Kenworth offer the Paccar - or Daf MX motor as an option, though they are not yet popular - most new Kenworths are specced with a ■■■■■■■ currently.
Caterpillar were a popular engine up until a few years ago, but Cat build their own trucks now, so don’t supply engines to other manufacturers - though the Cat prime movers haven’t sold very well.
Also Freightliner now offer the Benz engine range in new vehicles - being part of the Daimler Benz group.
But comfort wise - I’ve just got in from a days work in the Argosy, and I know that I’ve done a days’ driving - if you know what I mean. I think I need to lie down haha.

Cheers,
Keith

[pv83]

kmills:

pv83:

kmills:
102

Night time changeovers for Collins - enough lights you think? - can anyone rotate them?, and the K200 I normally drive, unusually on tautliner work last week, loading in Collins’ yard Melbourne, back to Adelaide.
Not sure what has changed here - my pics used to come up the right way!

Nice pic’s there mate!
Now, forgive me my ignorance, but how’s the handling of that “US iron” compared to what we have here in the old world…?
Mate of mine lives up in Canada, and he’s been driving with Kenworth’s and Peterbilt’s and it’s not all that bad, but it’s still miles away from the comfort of any european make…?

Cheers, Patrick

I think you sum it up Patrick - not all that bad, but…
Even the new Kenworth K200 still doesn’t have any cab suspension, I find that the clutch and brake pedal are either ‘on’ or ‘off’ - it’s very hard to be smooth with it. Even empty, you have to pull away in either crawler, or 1st gear, the clutch heats up and becomes very sharp otherwise.
European trucks still have a bit of an ‘image’ problem here in Australia - many drivers wont drive them cos they’re ‘soft’. Really!
Personally, give me a smooth European truck anytime, and if it has a Scania badge on the front, all the better.
The major downside to European trucks here in Aus, are the parts prices, which tend to be very expensive compared to Australian built Kenworths and Macks etc…
There is more and more of a European influence on the Australian built ‘US’ trucks tho - for instance if you buy a new Mack, it comes standard with a Volvo engine, and ‘I’ shift gearbox - re-branded as ‘M’ Drive.
Kenworth offer the Paccar - or Daf MX motor as an option, though they are not yet popular - most new Kenworths are specced with a ■■■■■■■ currently.
Caterpillar were a popular engine up until a few years ago, but Cat build their own trucks now, so don’t supply engines to other manufacturers - though the Cat prime movers haven’t sold very well.
Also Freightliner now offer the Benz engine range in new vehicles - being part of the Daimler Benz group.
But comfort wise - I’ve just got in from a days work in the Argosy, and I know that I’ve done a days’ driving - if you know what I mean. I think I need to lie down haha.

Cheers,
Keith

You would reckon those yanks would have figured out how to built a proper lorry then by now eh…
Me mate says the same thing regarding the gearbox, even when emty set of in 1st gear…otherwise the ■■■■■ hits the fan

Thought there were “European” assembly lines there as well, as DAF and Volvo did do quite well up there…?

Watched some episodes of “outback truckers” always wondered why they use those hideous long Kenworth’s when they have to tip somewhere in the bush, much easier with a “normal” lorry and as a 6x6 I reckon…?

But maybe I’m completely wrong…as usual…

Cheers, Patrick

[lespullan]

[pv83]

What’s the story behind this one then?

Cheers, Patrick

[pyewacket947v]

pv83:
What’s the story behind this one then?

Cheers, Patrick

Argyle Christina, short lived Scottish attempt at a home grown truck using bought in components.
ie Perkins Diesel, Motor Panels cab, etc
Built in East Kilbride, Lanarks, First half of the 70s.
A large solid tyred vehicle called a Trilby, was built for use in the South Wales Steel Industry.
There was also a tipper version of the Christina and others where planned but never materialised,
Another brave attempt, defeated.

[pv83]

pyewacket947v:

pv83:
What’s the story behind this one then?

Cheers, Patrick

Argyle Christina, short lived Scottish attempt at a home grown truck using bought in components.
ie Perkins Diesel, Motor Panels cab, etc
Built in East Kilbride, Lanarks, First half of the 70s.
A large solid tyred vehicle called a Trilby, was built for use in the South Wales Steel Industry.
There was also a tipper version of the Christina and others where planned but never materialised,
Another brave attempt, defeated.

Cheers for the info! Already thought it had to do sommat with the Scottish…How many were there eventually build then? Can’t be that many I reckon…?

[oiltreader]

Thanks to lespullan and pv83 for the pics

Bonneted Scanias.
Oily

[pv83]

oiltreader:
Thanks to lespullan and pv83 for the pics

Bonneted Scanias.
Oily

Nice ones Oily! That last one looks like the Australian edition…

How about this one then, didn’t know MAN were on the market down under as well…

[lespullan]

A couple of working Argyle’s. Les.

[lurpak]

a couple from the lorry park

Ade

[pv83]

lespullan:
A couple of working Argyle’s. Les.
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Cheers!

[pyewacket947v]

pv83:

pyewacket947v:

pv83:
What’s the story behind this one then?

Cheers, Patrick

Argyle Christina, short lived Scottish attempt at a home grown truck using bought in components.
ie Perkins Diesel, Motor Panels cab, etc
Built in East Kilbride, Lanarks, First half of the 70s.
A large solid tyred vehicle called a Trilby, was built for use in the South Wales Steel Industry.
There was also a tipper version of the Christina and others where planned but never materialised,
Another brave attempt, defeated.

Cheers for the info! Already thought it had to do sommat with the Scottish…How many were there eventually build then? Can’t be that many I reckon…?

Not many i dont think. The Trilby was a one off, though i seem to remember reading somewhere that it did what it said on the tin.
A 3 axle model called a Karen was planned but but i do not think it got beyond the planning stage.

[oiltreader]

Thanks to pv83, lespullan and lurpak for the pics

Tebay Services 2016 and a tidy job done with loading.
Oily

[colinwallace1]

pv83:

oiltreader:
Thanks to lespullan and pv83 for the pics

Bonneted Scanias.
Oily

Nice ones Oily! That last one looks like the Australian edition…

How about this one then, didn’t know MAN were on the market down under as well…

MAN’s are fairly popular down here Patrick. This company runs about 7 of them, including an old Roadhaus version.
The dealerships normally sell them alongside Western Star and Isuzu.
The Melbourne dealership “Westar” is also an agent for Dennis Eagle. Cheers, Colin.

[matt_watson]

An old photo from many years ago.I used to run from Falkirk to Aberdeen daily in this Seddon Atkinson.Only time it let me down was when the wipers packed in and it was off the road for a day.

[shunt1986]

My first truck in my first week of my driving career…

[oiltreader]

Thanks to colinwallace1, matt watson and SHUNT1986 for the pics

MAN in OZ.
Oily