couple pics,reiver don’t look right with 7’6" body,ta,Pete
Would that cab in Mick Haytons museum be the one that is on the green 4wh Albion tanker from Carlisle oh oh I canny mind the owners name. Gerald will know. Eddie.
Hi Eddie, You are referring to Jeff Graham’s Chieftain fuel tanker with a Holmalloy of Preston cab which sports two complete half wraparound screens without corner supports or joints although some earlier Holmalloy cabs had this feature.See my comment on page 183 to Guesty 44 Also on page 188 showing RSG 261 Chieftain with Kirkness and Innes cab similar to the one in Mick’s museum but not quite the same. I think this one could possibly have been built by A.C Penman at Heathall. I believe Tyson Burridge bought this one at the sale.
Cheers Leyland 600
A couple of scans from an old book I’ve got on Fairground & Circus Transport. I particularly like the Foden 8 legger on full lock with trailer - probably took about 10 minutes to pull away - apparently a 1958 snapped in 1972
Nice Scammells too
kevmac47:
Here’s a few from Beamish Transport Festival this past few days.3210 This four day festival was well worth a visit it was excellent. Put it in your diary for next year Oily. Regards Kev.
Sentinel DG8,Tipper-bodied,8x4 Steam Lorry,Engine-Works-Chassis No.8016,UX 5355,August 1929,in Salop.Tarmac.
Reconstructed from old parts and a new chassis.
Albion PMA28/Walker B31R Single Decker Omnibus,Chassis No.7061B,RG 1173,February 1930,in Aberdeen,ex-TSK 716 in August 1993.Aberdeen,No.79.
Buzzer:
Today we have a six legger GUY cheers Buzzer.
Guy Invincible Mk 2 6x4 Showmans Ballast Road Locomotive, DLU 745C,registered on Friday,17th December,1965 in London.
T.Whitelegg and Sons.
DLU 745C was later operated as a showmans ballast road locomotive by
T.Rowland hauling his Atlanta Dodgems:-
flickr.com/photos/foden_djp/5809364950/
Now preserved as a Tipper Lorry:-
flickr.com/photos/16797800@N07/6470833265/
Gardner 120:
A couple of scans from an old book I’ve got on Fairground & Circus Transport. I particularly like the Foden 8 legger on full lock with trailer - probably took about 10 minutes to pull away - apparently a 1958 snapped in 1972Nice Scammells too
Foden S20 FG6/24,Luton Girderframe-bodied,8x4 Lorry,RCA 773,registered in
Denbighshire,Wales,in March or April,1958.
Billy Nichols & Sons. Dodgems. Billy Nichols also operated RCA 774,sister Foden to
RCA 773,and hauled the Hurricane Jets Ride.
Both Foden’s were new to Dee Valley Transport,Llangollen,Denbighshire,Wales,which gave
it’s haulage lorry fleet individual and picturesque names:RCA 774 could have been
LADY OF THE VALLEY.
RCA 773,LILY OF THE VALLEY,and here is a beautiful portrait-painting of this Foden when it
was originally a classic British long distance heavy duty freight trunking rigid eight-wheeler
lorry,when it was operated by Dee Valley Transport:-
Foden S20 FG6/24*,Flat-bodied,8x2 or 8x4 Lorry,RCA 773,THE LILY OF THE VALLEY,registered in March-April 1958 in Denbigshire.Dee Valley Transport,Llangollen,Wales.With Guy Invincible or Warrior and Ford Pilot V8 Motorcar.Foden became W.Nichols fairground lorry,along with
RCA 774.
*Bart Vanderveen and Denis N.Miller said that the Foden was a K model - but according to the registrations both Fodens are FG6/24 models 
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Courtesy of Kevin Upson.
VALKYRIE
Today is a Leyland Marathon, or as were commonly known as “peanut punchers” round my way, cheers Buzzer.
Thanks to pete smith, Gardner 120 and Buzzer for the pics and VALKYRIE with the very detailed history and the Foden:D
Pete(Smith) with the showmen wagons jogged the grey stuff, having viewed this previously, well worth a look at some very old wagons
youtube.com/watch?v=e160PxlssrU
Oily
Two more from Hayton’s yard, thanks to Ronnie Cameron.
Oily
Spardo:
harry:
Western Star
Foden
Mack
Commer
Foden
Scammel
Kenworth
Dodge
Bedford.I wonder if the first one isn’t a Leyland?
And you chickened out on the Government Road Train Harry. At the other end somewhere there’ll be an AEC.
As far as the P&S Macks go, no wonder I thought they were orange - that one looks orange to me, ish.
Your correct Spardo the top left is a Leyland Buffalo owned and modified by Co Ord transport and lives in retirement with the Buntine Mack body truck,the Gov 8wd AEC and trailers at the Transport Hall of Fame Alice Springs.
Cheers Dave
Spardo:
oiltreader:
For Spardo, did a bit of digging and the picture was taken in 1968, and yes a Kenworth, nickname “snubnose”, build date 1960s approx. and loading for Derby, does that make any sense.
oilyIt does mate, thanks for that. Depending whereabouts on the station this particular loading point was I reckon the distance to Derby, on the west coast of WA to the north of the town of Broome, would be around 450 kms. No problem at all for an overnight journey. Even on dirt roads, the lack of traffic, speed limits and desire of drivers once wound up not to slow for anything would mean that he could keep up a pretty good average.
I used to run from Wyndham, further to the north than Louisa, to Katherine NT, 620 kms, in 10 to 12 hours. And we had 3 x 40 tandems behind the rigid prime mover, considerably more weight. We did make several stops, usually after fording a river, for a drink of water but mainly to get the fallen cows back on their feet. If we didn’t do that they wouldn’t survive, being trampled by the rest. The method used was to swing from the overhead bars across the open top crates kicking the standing ones as far away as possible, then jumping down to blow up the noses of the fallers. They hated that and struggled to their feet to stick us with their massive horns. Our most important skill was the speed with which we could scramble back up the sides
We would then walk round kicking the tyres and changing wheels.We’d roll into Katherine meat works around breakfast time, unload, then back across the road to the base, service the motors including mending the tubed punctures (I had 13 on my first trip) then pile into a ute (pickup truck) and into town for a feed and a few beers. Then back to the bunkhouse to sleep the day before heading back the next night.
Back to the picture. 1968 you say? I am surprised at the rather dated trailers, I never saw anything less than tandems 3 years earlier, but it does explain the KW with the sleeper. I think I must have been in on the early days of the Yank revolution as I only remember Macks on the big stuff, and only one of them with a sleeper (not ours). 2 of our Macks were used on Shell trains carrying hot bitumen from Darwin to Alice Springs. No time for hanging about and, at 1500 kms, 2 drivers were carried. The resting driver slept on the catwalk behind the cab with a low rail around it to save him from rolling off and wrapping himself round the propshaft. With the narrow Mack cab and and the good footholds on the steptanks, changeovers could be made on the move. Maybe they stopped sometimes I don’t know but one time the front manhole on the tank wasn’t shut tight and red hot bitumen slurped over onto the catwalk. Fortunately both drivers were in the cab at the time but after that they made sure it was screwed down tight but even so some drivers preferred to sleep in the passenger seat.
Bizarrely, as we tend to think that sleeper cabs were a trans Atlantic thing, there were plenty of Fodens, Leylands and AEC sleepers at that time hauling general cargo on road trains. Strange, isn’t it?
Good Day Oily and Spardo , that KW was one of the first 2 imported into OZ by Mr Colin Campbell I believe mid 60s who I recall telling me they came complete from the US with cattle crates, he was based in Derby.
They were powered by 8V71 Detroits with 2 stick 4x4 spicer g/boxes and Rockwell diffs.One of them was later shortened up into a prime mover and passed into the hands of another Derby based carrier and did many years of work in various road train applications.
Cheers Dave
Found this photo in a folder I had,nt looked at for a while … it was taken a few years ago out behind Glen Innes NSW at old diggings in the bush could,t believe it !!! there was also a flattened red rusty Bedford cab from about the 30,s i managed to salvage a small stainless steel dash badge thats how I knew it was a Bedford these things pop up everywhere ■■?
Hi Oily, That Albion with split windscreen in Ronnie’s photo is also a Pilot cab judging by the large D shaped front side window.
Cheers, Leyland 600.
Volvo wagon and drag today, Buzzer.
Thanks to backsplice and Buzzer for the pics and to DIG for the info , it’s a while since that postings, I lost all the photos of that stuff, so no Idea of dates, pages etc.
More from yesterdays jaunt and an A road which between Inveran and Ledmore Junction is mostly single track, 25 miles approx…
Oily
McGawn Bros Scanias, thanks to Jambox998 for sharing.
Oily
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RCA 773,LILY OF THE VALLEY,and here is a beautiful portrait-painting of this Foden when it
was originally a classic British long distance heavy duty freight trunking rigid eight-wheeler
lorry,when it was operated by Dee Valley Transport:-
Foden S20 FG6/24*,Flat-bodied,8x2 or 8x4 Lorry,RCA 773,THE LILY OF THE VALLEY,registered in March-April 1958 in Denbigshire.Dee Valley Transport,Llangollen,Wales.With Guy Invincible or Warrior and Ford Pilot V8 Motorcar.Foden became W.Nichols fairground lorry,along with
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Courtesy of Kevin Upson.
VALKYRIE
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Woops…tiredness rules KO!,
Sorry about that, super post Valkyrie, I well remember that lorry in service, the family used to do a lot of work in with Dee Valley. Their premises were a b… to get into with the old “armstrong steering” Fodens that we had.
That S20 cab, I found to be the most comfortable of all of Mr Fodens designs. A little bit like an Edwardian railway carriage, but a superb place to enjoy Europes unfolding panorama…and never too cold, or too hot, must have been all that wood in the construction…When I "graduated to an S21 “Micky Mouse”…good though it was, (and cold in the Alps), it never had that feeling of quality, like the S20…but I will not comment on the S36…and its blue “porta loo” interior…could never warm to that…Orrible contraption! Let alone that travesty of cab design the S39…but with a Leyland .680 and 12 speed …a real “hot rod” in its day…pity about the worm drive axle!!!
Alan Spilletts images are a delight, just look at the brickwork on Telfords Aqueduct, over the A5 at Stretton, then if you drive under it today…its spot on, (although they have lowered the road now)! Our farms the other side of Belvide Reservoir, next to the Aqueduct. Buildings, and part of the house new built by Thomas Telfords engineers, back in 1832,as the previous buildings and house were purchased by the canal company from the Chillington estate, and demolished to flood the 220 acres back in the 1800s. I love the Canal company, (Midland and Coast, later Shropshire Union), blue and red brickwork in our older buildings.
Belvide is now an SSI, (Site of Special Scientific Interest), and leased by the West Midland Bird Club, from the Canal and River Trust. Once famed for its Pike, and now only for its Water Fowl…and its b…y Insects…(.like Dorniers on a mission)…And it is just long enough to land…and take off in a Catalina flying boat…according to my nearest neighbour, (an ex Catalina Pilot, of 93 plus years), though I expect the "Twitchers " would have something to say about that!
The buildings immediatley to the S20s right, were originally one of the many coaching houses along, Streethay", (the Watling Street), and behind them the Stretton Wharf on the Shropshire Union. Now a boatyard, whose 38RB was delivered by my pal Bill Holding behind his, (still operational), flat top F12
Thanks for the images. Real memory jerkers…
Cheerio for now.
