Mr Badger:
oiltreader:
Hi Mr Badger, you should be well proud of that lot, dedication unlimited, well done yourself and whoever else helps, seeing the Cat brings me to post this engine for you, taken in June at Leverburgh, Isle of Harris.
OilyI know its pretty much a truck forum but I thought you might like to see our before and after of the little Cat
As I remember, it took me ten times as long to start the donkey engine as it did to fire up the diesel
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oiltreader:
What a fine lot of stuff all thanks to kevmac47, Mr Badger, Stanfield, Moose and truckfing![]()
Memory jogger there with the Tennants of Forth wagon, a smallish town, (more of a village in the 50s) Forth was fairly remote and here is a useless bit of info about Forth, it was home to the Gracie family with five sons, all well over 6ft, the tallest George at 7ft 3ins was Scotlands tallest man, if I remember rightly they had a garage/filling station, stopping there for fuel, there was a good chance of George manning the pumps. Drivers used to talk about going over Forth (A706), with its switchback hills. I’ve done it once or twice.
Oily
Oily, when I worked for “Onward” in the 80’s I often used the A706 via Forth from Livingston depot heading south. If I remember correctly we were not allowed to use that road if the
weather forecast was bad. Of course we always took notice of the traffic office
before we made the decision on the route we would take.
The manager, the late, great, George Whyte knew we would take the chance on most days, but he did insist on the trunk motors using the longer route. Regards Kev. Ps this was in the days when the driver was in charge of the vehicle, not the numpty from the office who couldn’t find his own “clagger” without a sat nav.
I would bet on Larry knowing this outfit from the cleveland area.
These always kept a nice tidy fleet.
Mr Badger:
oiltreader:
Hi Mr Badger, you should be well proud of that lot, dedication unlimited, well done yourself and whoever else helps, seeing the Cat brings me to post this engine for you, taken in June at Leverburgh, Isle of Harris.
OilyI know its pretty much a truck forum but I thought you might like to see our before and after of the little Cat
Top marks there my man, a lot of work gone into that, it’s a credit to all who had a hand in it.
Another fine collection of pics thanks to truckfing, Mr Badger, kevmac47, Leyland600 and Stanfield
Mr Badger, aye a labour of love and to quote the dictionary “a piece of hard work that you do because you enjoy it and not because you will receive money or praise for it, or because you need to do it”:
Back to Forth again, I delivered cars a couple of times from Cowley to the then BMC car storage pound at Bathgate and it was leaving the A74 at Abington, A73 to Hyndford Bridge (over the River Clyde), on to Carstairs and the A706, over Forth to Whitburn and along to Bathgate. On the lefthand side old A74 going north, just before Abington was a Transport Café, a must stop for the large fluffy white baps with bacon and Lorne sausage, I’m struggling a bit but I think it was a mother and daughter(s) who ran it.
Oily
Moose:
Hi Moose, not much into trailers, but guessing Neville and having “googled” said make, interestingly the two side rails are attached to the unit and when tipping draws the trailer axle towards the drive axle, with the body almost vertical, this must have been specially constructed for specific work, downside I guess would be lack of articulation can you or anyone else enlighten me.
Well done yourself for the restoration.
Oily
Don’t see too many of these on the Rally scene, which I think is a shame . Having driven them I thought they were a good workhorse!
Chatted to the driver of this who said with the rear-steer on the trailer it tracked perfectly, which they need as it is often up North of Scotland on the narrow single-tracks to fish-farms etc collecting, 1st time I’d seen the artic down south, this was taken at a fish farm in Romsey, Hants where I regularly see their wagons, but they are mostly 6-wheelers sometimes pulling a drag-trailer.
hi oily , i have driven the neville trailers on 2 firms . they were ideal for yard deliveries and tipping into hoppers , but only when they were fitted with a separate trailer brake , pulling the unit back and locking the trailer . second time was tarmac to paving machines which was a total failure as there was no overhang to reach into the machine . they went out of use when 6 wheeler weights were increased . iirc they carried 16 tons at 24 ton gross . cheers , dave
This blokes wagon is a beauty, he is always polishing it & lettering the tyres etc & hats off to him cos it always looks the bowlox . Nice to see someone who takes Pride in his wagon!
Took these pics last week while delivering to Sims Metals, Alexandra Dock, Newport. The dumper being loaded behind me (I was delivering Liquid Oxygen), he was a busy boy backwards & forwards! You can see the Ship in the back-ground in the other pic, a lot of these ships come & collect the scrap for the Far-East apparently.
Old & even older horse-power, both full of character , shame modern day wagons even with all their luxuries will never have that
Not every-ones cup of tea, but the engineering excellence & that lovely paintwork, the craftsmanship is fantastic
First pic, had to wait for the bridge as I was coming out of a fish farm in Padworth, Berks, to let the Narrow Boat through. 2nd pic, just delivered Medical Oxygen to Chelsea & Westminster Hospital & had to wait for this bloke to do his stuff, who’d be a skip-driver in London !
oiltreader:
Moose:
Hi Moose, not much into trailers, but guessing Neville and having “googled” said make, interestingly the two side rails are attached to the unit and when tipping draws the trailer axle towards the drive axle, with the body almost vertical, this must have been specially constructed for specific work, downside I guess would be lack of articulation
can you or anyone else enlighten me.
Well done yourself for the restoration.
Oily
yes you are right, the trailer is being restored to go behind an aec unit which is also in the stages of being restored
I had the job of sandblasting and painting with primer, to move the trailer we had to knock wedges under the fifth wheel to stop the thing pivoting as on this trailer the rubbing plate is on a pivot, when in use the drawing unit would have the fifth wheel locked/fixed
as you can see the tipping pivot is towards the middle of the trailer
this trailer is going to be in the colours of a former local haulier, when in use this type of trailer would have been used on general quarry work, if you wanted to tip into a bin/hopper you would apply the trailer brakes and tip with the unit brakes off which in turn would drag the unit backwards, the trailer was new in 1969 so would have been used well through the 1970’s/1980’s, articulation would not be a problem as on the aec the fifth wheel is mounted a bit higher so the trailer is well clear of the rear mudwings, as a matter of interest I know of another local Neville trailer which is a tandum axle set up with an alloy body which at some stage will also be restored
moose
Hi Oily, The café was called “The Coatesgate” a very popular stopping place. The lady who owned it collected photos of the various wagons calling there, off their drivers. A friend of mine has recently acquired this collection and is intending to give a slide show in the spring at a venue near Dumfries to announced later. The lady in question and her assistant are expected to attend.
Cheers Leyland 600.