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Thanks Stanfield and Truckfing, I will be adding a watermark to my shots when my brother next visits (he lives in Northampton). He reckons its the best way to protect them. As TF shows moving my text around is obviously fairly easy, ( I might add not for me 
). Here’s a few for today. Regards Kev.
adr:
Good pic of a load going on, a lot of skill went into working out these loads
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Hi Kindle, Most lorries in the 1950s and 60s only had one fog lamp usually with an amber lense and a broad flat beam for thick fog alternatively they had a white pencil beam spotlight (Leyland Beavers had the one with a small blue lense set in the middle of the main lens), the spotlight beam was set up to shine along the kerb for a good many yards to try and penetrate the peasouper fogs we had in those days but the pencil beam was used more frequently for flashing overtaking wagons in as the beam shone past the front of the overtaker being more easily seen in the dark given the very small mirrors in use then. Some owner drivers had two lamps fitted one of each type. The Butler fog lamp was a popular fitting with a vertical ribbed lense.
Cheers. Leyland 600.
Stanfield:
kindle530:
The Metal Box motors…why have they only got 1 spotlight(?) on the front passenger side??Only guessing here but could it be something to do with the thick fogs we used to have years ago and it was an helpful guide for seeing the pavements and parked cars.I remember has a kid in the 50/60s walking along with a torch to guide cars and such along the road when it was dense with fog.
I can confirm that the single low-mounted light on the nearside was a foglamp. The lens was convoluted in order to give a flat-topped beam which would be adjusted to shine on the verge/kerb. Foglamps would be bolted low so that it would shine underneath the fog which would usually hover about a foot or eighteen inches (still in “proper” measurements!) above the ground. Some of us would mount a matching spotlamp on the offside which had a clear lens giving a long-distance beam for driving in clear conditions.
Great minds thinking alike again!
Aye you are spot on there ROF. Do you remember arriving at your destination with eyes popping out like organ stops after hours of peering through the thick yellow fogs especially down through Wigan and Warrington ?
Cheers Leyland 600.
Not half, matey! The fog around Warrington was made worse by the stuff being burned by the wire works and the brewery, but I recall it was worse around Northwich with the ICI/Brunner works pouring out rubbish. But then, every industrial centre in the country was dirty & smelly in those days and we accepted it as part of life. Mind you, I don’t think I would have fancied living anywhere near them myself. Glad to be a Country Boy!
Oiltreader:
VALKYRIE:
Oiltreader:
A few from contact express000 in Oz came through the other day which included these Brits.
OilyALBION LORRY AND DOUBLE DECKER BUS IN AUSTRALIA.
ALBION VENTURER SPCX19W/COMMONWEALTH ENGINEERING H33/26D 59-SEAT DOUBLE DECKER OMNIBUS,Chassis No.60031A,originally registered MO 1981.1948.
New to the New South Wales Department of Road Transport & Tramways,Sydney,Australia,fleet No. 981 - 1981.In 1969 it sold to Hunter Valley Motorcoaches ,Maitland,re-registered ADF 288,then re-registered MO 5203,fleet No.17.
Parked alongside this Albion Venturer is another Albion:Possiably a Chieftain FT38? bonneted-normal control 6.5 Ton 4x2 Lorry,export model dating 1948-1950:-
Albion Venturer SPCX19W Double Decker Buses of Hunter Valley Motorcoaches in 1968,60031A,MO 1981,ADF 288,MO 5203,No.17 ; 60032F,MO 1971,AKC 204,MO 5389,No.13 ; 60041B,MO 2200,MO 4842,re-registered again to UIO 292,No.19:-
VALKYRIE
Your avatar caught my eye, I’m guessing Lagonda, early 50s or maybe Hispano Suiza, I used to drool over car mags of that era and think… one day, (my transport at that time was a bike, a Humber Clipper with drop handle bars. Sturmey Archer 3 speed and Miller dynamo) hey I’m off again on a memory trip
Oily
Oiltreader:
VALKYRIE:
Oiltreader:
A few from contact express000 in Oz came through the other day which included these Brits.
OilyALBION LORRY AND DOUBLE DECKER BUS IN AUSTRALIA.
ALBION VENTURER SPCX19W/COMMONWEALTH ENGINEERING H33/26D 59-SEAT DOUBLE DECKER OMNIBUS,Chassis No.60031A,originally registered MO 1981.1948.
New to the New South Wales Department of Road Transport & Tramways,Sydney,Australia,fleet No. 981 - 1981.In 1969 it sold to Hunter Valley Motorcoaches ,Maitland,re-registered ADF 288,then re-registered MO 5203,fleet No.17.
Parked alongside this Albion Venturer is another Albion:Possiably a Chieftain FT38? bonneted-normal control 6.5 Ton 4x2 Lorry,export model dating 1948-1950:-
Albion Venturer SPCX19W Double Decker Buses of Hunter Valley Motorcoaches in 1968,60031A,MO 1981,ADF 288,MO 5203,No.17 ; 60032F,MO 1971,AKC 204,MO 5389,No.13 ; 60041B,MO 2200,MO 4842,re-registered again to UIO 292,No.19:-
VALKYRIE
Your avatar caught my eye, I’m guessing Lagonda, early 50s or maybe Hispano Suiza, I used to drool over car mags of that era and think… one day, (my transport at that time was a bike, a Humber Clipper with drop handle bars. Sturmey Archer 3 speed and Miller dynamo) hey I’m off again on a memory trip
Oily
PIERCE ARROW SILVER ARROW V12 AERODYNAMIC MOTORCAR.My Avatar.
Hello Oiltreader.My avatar photograph is actually of the magnificent American designed and built Aerodynamic Dream Motorcar of 1933:-
Pierce Arrow Silver Arrow V12,4-Door,6-Light,Streamlined Aerodynamic Fastback Sedan Motorcar -“It gives you in 1933 the motorcar of 1940”,to quote Pierce Arrow advertising.Only five of these luxury motorcars were built,they sold for $10,000 each which was very expensive in 1933 
. The Pierce Arrow Silver Arrow V12,wonderfully described by Motorcar Historian,Michael Sedgwick,as “a slab-sided aerodynamic monster in the grand manner…”,was powered by a 7,572 cc - 462 CID - side valve V12-cylinder 175 BHP** petrol engine*
that gave this motorcar a 120 MPH performance - quite an outstanding speed for a saloon motorcar in 1933! :-
*Seagrave later on used a version of this engine to power some Seagrave fire engine models
**This Pierce Arrow 462 CID V12 Engine was uprated to 185 BHP in 1936.
SEAGRAVE WATER FALL V12,PIERCE ARROW 462 CID V12 PETROL-GASOLINE -ENGINED LIMOUSINE PUMP ESCAPE FIRE ENGINE,Jersey Fire Department,No.6.1939:-
I like to make periodic changes to my avatar,so keep a look out:D
To bring this great thread back to lorries,I’ll post a photograph of a Foden lorry that was mentioned in post 25 on page 2 of the SCAMMELL
Thread,by Big Ben,QV:-
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=101319&start=30
FODEN S20 K or FG6LX/24 FLAT-BODIED 8x4 LORRY,770 DOA,OLD FLAME.Friday,3rd February,1961,Birmingham.A and G Godsall,Herefordshire.Ex-Patsy Gray fairground lorry which transported part of the A78 Lakin Coronation Ark Speedway Ride,which was variously owned by Harry Gray,Patsy Gray,Roy Carter,Armroyd Lane,Harry Wigfield,then was exported to Canada,Conklin Shows and now number A78 is in the Toronto Reynolds-Alberta Museum,Alberta,Canada:-
VALKYRIE
A finely-restored A.E.C. Mercury , seen on display at “BIBS” `s Open Day , Ingleton.
Cheers, cattle wagon man.
Further to the driving lamp queries; just before and just after WW2 a lot of motors had “dip and switch”. They only had single filament headlight bulbs, when you dipped, the headlights went off and the driving lamp came on. The 1946 O type in the picture had this system, still on it when it was laid up, by time we did it up in the’70s the law required 2 headlamps, so we fitted twin filament bulbs in the headlights and a separate switch for the driving lamp, which was a “Notek”.
Bernard
Fine lot of pics again, love the old black and white thanks to adr, Stanfield, kevmac47, cattle wagon man and albion1938
Bus driving Grangemouth 1957ish, talk about fog,…, Forth Estuary, Petrol Refinery and Petro Chemical Works of ICI and others, you could taste the bitter acrid stuff that normally would be heading skywards. Stand out memory was finishing a late shift, nearing the depot with the clippie and a torch walking in front of my bus with the torch beam shining back towards me. Nearside fog lamps I remember well and were for spotlighting the nearside verge. High headlight beam was an absolute no no in fog, any lamp lower than dipped headlight was an advantage with amber giving the better vision. Can anyone remember the Bluespot fog lamps 
Caught these at the same site in Inverness today, a beaut from ■■■■■■■■ with Dennison extending trailer delivering steel sections and a V8 delivering cherrypickers and with a grand sounding note from the twin pipes.
Oily
Aye Oily the Blue Spot fog lamps were fitted to most Leyland Beavers, Octopus etc in the late 40s early 50s.
Cheers Leyland 600.
VALKYRIE:
Oiltreader:
VALKYRIE:
Oiltreader:
A few from contact express000 in Oz came through the other day which included these Brits.
OilyALBION LORRY AND DOUBLE DECKER BUS IN AUSTRALIA.
ALBION VENTURER SPCX19W/COMMONWEALTH ENGINEERING H33/26D 59-SEAT DOUBLE DECKER OMNIBUS,Chassis No.60031A,originally registered MO 1981.1948.
New to the New South Wales Department of Road Transport & Tramways,Sydney,Australia,fleet No. 981 - 1981.In 1969 it sold to Hunter Valley Motorcoaches ,Maitland,re-registered ADF 288,then re-registered MO 5203,fleet No.17.
Parked alongside this Albion Venturer is another Albion:Possiably a Chieftain FT38? bonneted-normal control 6.5 Ton 4x2 Lorry,export model dating 1948-1950:-Albion Venturer SPCX19W Double Decker Buses of Hunter Valley Motorcoaches in 1968,60031A,MO 1981,ADF 288,MO 5203,No.17 ; 60032F,MO 1971,AKC 204,MO 5389,No.13 ; 60041B,MO 2200,MO 4842,re-registered again to UIO 292,No.19:-
VALKYRIE
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Your avatar caught my eye, I’m guessing Lagonda, early 50s or maybe Hispano Suiza, I used to drool over car mags of that era and think… one day, (my transport at that time was a bike, a Humber Clipper with drop handle bars. Sturmey Archer 3 speed and Miller dynamo) hey I’m off again on a memory trip
Oily
[/quote]Oiltreader:
VALKYRIE:
Oiltreader:
A few from contact express000 in Oz came through the other day which included these Brits.
OilyALBION LORRY AND DOUBLE DECKER BUS IN AUSTRALIA.
ALBION VENTURER SPCX19W/COMMONWEALTH ENGINEERING H33/26D 59-SEAT DOUBLE DECKER OMNIBUS,Chassis No.60031A,originally registered MO 1981.1948.
New to the New South Wales Department of Road Transport & Tramways,Sydney,Australia,fleet No. 981 - 1981.In 1969 it sold to Hunter Valley Motorcoaches ,Maitland,re-registered ADF 288,then re-registered MO 5203,fleet No.17.
Parked alongside this Albion Venturer is another Albion:Possiably a Chieftain FT38? bonneted-normal control 6.5 Ton 4x2 Lorry,export model dating 1948-1950:-
Albion Venturer SPCX19W Double Decker Buses of Hunter Valley Motorcoaches in 1968,60031A,MO 1981,ADF 288,MO 5203,No.17 ; 60032F,MO 1971,AKC 204,MO 5389,No.13 ; 60041B,MO 2200,MO 4842,re-registered again to UIO 292,No.19:-
VALKYRIE
Your avatar caught my eye, I’m guessing Lagonda, early 50s or maybe Hispano Suiza, I used to drool over car mags of that era and think… one day, (my transport at that time was a bike, a Humber Clipper with drop handle bars. Sturmey Archer 3 speed and Miller dynamo) hey I’m off again on a memory trip
OilyPIERCE ARROW SILVER ARROW V12 AERODYNAMIC MOTORCAR.My Avatar.
Hello Oiltreader.My avatar photograph is actually of the magnificent American designed and built Aerodynamic Dream Motorcar of 1933:-
Pierce Arrow Silver Arrow V12,4-Door,6-Light,Streamlined Aerodynamic Fastback Sedan Motorcar -“It gives you in 1933 the motorcar of 1940”,to quote Pierce Arrow advertising.Only five of these luxury motorcars were built,they sold for $10,000 each which was very expensive in 1933
that gave this motorcar a 120 MPH performance - quite an outstanding speed for a saloon motorcar in 1933!
*Seagrave later on used a version of this engine to power some Seagrave fire engine models
**This Pierce Arrow 462 CID V12 Engine was uprated to 185 BHP in 1936.SEAGRAVE WATER FALL V12,PIERCE ARROW 462 CID V12 PETROL-GASOLINE -ENGINED LIMOUSINE PUMP ESCAPE FIRE ENGINE,Jersey Fire Department,No.6.1939:-
I like to make periodic changes to my avatar,so keep a look out:D
To bring this great thread back to lorries,I’ll post a photograph of a Foden lorry that was mentioned in post 25 on page 2 of the SCAMMELL
Thread,by Big Ben,QV:-
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=101319&start=30FODEN S20 K or FG6LX/24 FLAT-BODIED 8x4 LORRY,770 DOA,OLD FLAME.Friday,3rd February,1961,Birmingham.A and G Godsall,Herefordshire.Ex-Patsy Gray fairground lorry which transported part of the A78 Lakin Coronation Ark Speedway Ride,which was variously owned by Harry Gray,Patsy Gray,Roy Carter,Armroyd Lane,Harry Wigfield,then was exported to Canada,Conklin Shows and now number A78 is in the Toronto Reynolds-Alberta Museum,Alberta,Canada:-
VALKYRIE
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Another Seagrave, Beamish 2012. A very impressive motor !! It belongs to a guy from Lincs. He also owns the Castrol 8wheeler and dangle. Regards Kev.
I have been handed some photographs from Colin Bateman from Aspatria , ■■■■■■■ , showing some of his father`s early cattle wagons.
Many thanks for his generosity , and also for allowing me to show them on TNUK.
I am unable to determine when this E.R.F. was built , but it appears to be an early model.
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
foden 01:
Alford ,
Sorry foden 01 …for late response…concentration lapse 
you are right 
Oily
cattle wagon man:
I have been handed some photographs from Colin Bateman from Aspatria , ■■■■■■■ , showing some of his father`s early cattle wagons.
Many thanks for his generosity , and also for allowing me to show them on TNUK.I am unable to determine when this E.R.F. was built , but it appears to be an early model.
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
If the reg is ANT ? Its a Salop C C. 1937/8, Hope this info is helpful, Regards Larry.