Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

Frankydobo:
The GWR Artic doesn’t seem to be a British make (Left ■■■■■■) and I believe it may be a Federal truck from the USA, the pic below is of a logging outfit of 1918, note the rad design or shape of the grille and the rad cap, which appears to be a sort of ball shape, is the same on both ‘trucks’. I was actually at the NRM just the other day and didn’t see this vehicle (it might not be on display there now) if so I could have said for certain as I looked closely at the other Rail vehicles on display. Federal did sell many vehicles around the world at the time of the pic, if they did sell to GWR then the rail company was very forward thinking, artics were around from the late 1890’s but in Britain this would have been very rare and GWR must have realised the advantages of the system. Cheers Franky.

Nice one Frankydobo, also the info, cheers for that, I’ve done a bit of digging and the GWR tractor unit is an Knox, I have posted this pic before and only after looking at other stuff did I make the connection.
Lots of info here from Wikipedia Commons

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Scammell started as a late-Victorian period wheelwright and coach-building business, G Scammell & Nephew Ltd in Spitalfields, London. George Scammell, the founder was joined by his nephew Richard and Richard’s sons, Alfred and James. By the early 1900s, the firm had become financially stable, providing maintenance to customers of Foden steam wagons. One such customer, Edward Rudd, had imported a Knox Automobile tractor from the United States, and impressed with its low weight/high hauling power had asked Scammell if they could make a similar model of their own.

However, the outbreak of war in 1914 stopped the project and presented itself as a turning point in road transport history. Mechanical transport was seen to work, proving its vast potential beyond doubt to forward-thinking companies such as Scammell. George Scammell’s great nephew, Lt Col Alfred Scammell, was injured and invalided out of the army, and he was able to apply the practical experience he had gained during the war and began developing the articulated six wheeler. Percy G Hugh, chief designer, conceived the idea and at the 1920 Commercial Motor Show 50 orders were taken for the new design. The vehicle’s very low axle weight allowed it to carry 7.5 tonnes (8.3 tons) payload legally at 12 miles per hour (19 km/h), rather than being limited to 5 mph.[1] [2]
Cheers
Oily

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Another pic of an Knox at Paddington Station here
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From the distant past and right up to date with 2013 models, thanks to Len Rogers.
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So it’s a Knox, then. My original guess at Thorneycroft was prompted by the knowledge that Thorneycroft were the first company to produce an articulated lorry and I thought it may have been a promotional photo.
It was worth a guess!
And now that the weather’s changed for the better (at last- Macclesfield has had two days without rain!) I shall get myself outside my second pint of cider.

One or two newish Mercs.
Oily

This time with thanks to Len Rogers.
Oily

Well done on the Knox identity Oily, my pic didn’t show the rad detail too well so I discounted it! It seems they were the only imported early artics that done well over here, they also made the first Three Wheel tractor before our own Mechanical Horse. Thornycroft did produce a Steam powered artic but it wasn’t a success and they dropped the idea, good old Scammell were the first to produce a British made ‘6 Wheel’ artic in 1920, a little later than the USA, but able to do the job, it was a Tanker design, I’ve no pic of that but the one below is of the later 15 Ton version with Four in Line Trailer another Scammell first. Cheers Franky.

Franky, Im busy reading a book loaned to me from Crowbar, It was printed in 04, Its all about the Ouseburn in the 20/30s era, Im going to try and get a copy for myself, Its a cracking read about the old days and familys that live on Stephney Bank and Lime Street, It mentions Currie & Co who had a depot there, I think It may have been the place that in later years was Fail & Kinkaids place ■■, Of course Ramage Transport took them over and used the same yard before moving to the old Chas Parsons place at Benton Rd, It even mentions Steenburghs, Regards Larry

Cheers Larry, what’s the book called, I might be able to get a hold of it, sounds interesting. I caught an episode of Whatever happened to the Likely Lads the other night, its being repeated on one of the Freeview channels. You might remember the opening credits that show views of Newcastle and Lime St is shown on the top left of the quartet of clips, of course the big chimney is easily seen and a Steenburgs Seddon tractor in the background parked near to the Ship Inn (surprise, surprise), in the foreground is one of the short 30ft Boden tandems, my old man used to say it was his little trailer, he always tried to hang onto it, when he loaded in the Lead Works he didn’t need to drop it to weigh off as when hooked to his Seddon unit they just managed to fit on the bridge. I’ll try and get a pic from the programme on here as its a nice nostalgic shot. Cheers Franky.

Frankydobo:
Cheers Larry, what’s the book called, I might be able to get a hold of it, sounds interesting. I caught an episode of Whatever happened to the Likely Lads the other night, its being repeated on one of the Freeview channels. You might remember the opening credits that show views of Newcastle and Lime St is shown on the top left of the quartet of clips, of course the big chimney is easily seen and a Steenburgs Seddon tractor in the background parked near to the Ship Inn (surprise, surprise), in the foreground is one of the short 30ft Boden tandems, my old man used to say it was his little trailer, he always tried to hang onto it, when he loaded in the Lead Works he didn’t need to drop it to weigh off as when hooked to his Seddon unit they just managed to fit on the bridge. I’ll try and get a pic from the programme on here as its a nice nostalgic shot. Cheers Franky.

Aye Franky, the book is titled The Ouseburn Heritage, Community Education Project.The E Mail Address Is Michael.greatbatch@newcastle.gov.uk Regards Larry.

Frankydobo:
Well done on the Knox identity Oily, my pic didn’t show the rad detail too well so I discounted it! It seems they were the only imported early artics that done well over here, they also made the first Three Wheel tractor before our own Mechanical Horse. Thornycroft did produce a Steam powered artic but it wasn’t a success and they dropped the idea, good old Scammell were the first to produce a British made ‘6 Wheel’ artic in 1920, a little later than the USA, but able to do the job, it was a Tanker design, I’ve no pic of that but the one below is of the later 15 Ton version with Four in Line Trailer another Scammell first. Cheers Franky.

That’s a cracking pic Frankydobo, cheers :smiley:
…some more to keep the Scammell topic going, thanks to Flicktone.
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As we’re on Scammells;
Bernard

Brilliant pics albion1938 :smiley: cheers.

The following are from the Bill Lind Collection, owned by the ballasttrust archives and shared by the trust within the terms of Creative Commons licence cc by nc nd 2.0.
The lead wagon in the first pic :question: is it a Scammell :question: , the rad looks a bit different.
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Heavy haulage, more up to date, this time in France and thanks to Alexandre Prévot.
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Three more from and with thanks to Alexandre Prévot.
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This time Switzerland and thanks to ponte1112.
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Back in Inverness.
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Cracking show pics from and with thanks to Len Rogers.
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From the '70s and most grateful to John Wakely for sharing.
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Thanks to Bristol Lad, these were taken in the Exeter area.
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