Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

Computer’s been kaput for a while but it’s good to be back in time to wish Oily all the best for the next 100 pages.

Retired Old ■■■■:
Computer’s been kaput for a while but it’s good to be back in time to wish Oily all the best for the next 100 pages.

Thanks for that ROF.

More from the top of the country.
Oily

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Four from the other end of UK.
Oily

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Greetings,All.
What horsepower is the Tesco’s Mercedes? :smiling_imp: :laughing: Regards,900x20.

oiltreader:
In the part of Ross-shire I live in we’ve hardly had a winter this time (could happen yet) not so in this cracking photo of years gone by.
download/file.php?id=71283&mode=view
Oily

Cracking photo that is. Can anyone ID the wagon behind the Austin? Looks a bit like what’s called a ‘Butterbox’ ACCO International here in Oz but very unlikely to be that.

PS would like to add my congrats to you on this thread Oily.

Re; Butterbox.

We had one of these on another thread. It was decided it was a Canadian Chevy.

youtu.be/H3ivoJ6mKLU

pete 359:
How tall are those pipes :question:

What pipes■■?

David :wink:

ParkRoyal2100:

oiltreader:
In the part of Ross-shire I live in we’ve hardly had a winter this time (could happen yet) not so in this cracking photo of years gone by.
download/file.php?id=71283&mode=view
Oily

Cracking photo that is. Can anyone ID the wagon behind the Austin? Looks a bit like what’s called a ‘Butterbox’ ACCO International here in Oz but very unlikely to be that.

PS would like to add my congrats to you on this thread Oily.

Hi ParkRoyal2100, Thanks for for PS.

…and to Harry there was an almost identical Ford, as the pictures will show, so it could be either, I remember them well. I also remember the “Ministry” coming round commandeering lorries off firms for the war effort and when the war was over and MOD transport surplus wagons were disposed of, a bargain was to be had for those in the market.

  • this an excerpt from Wikipedia…Major Canadian-built types
    The Ford-built CMP trucks had a 239 cu in (3.9 L), 95 bhp (70.8 kW) V8 engine, while most of the Chevrolet-built CMP trucks had a 215 cu in (3.5 L), 85 bhp (63.4 kW) straight-6 overhead-valve engine. An American-made 270 cu in (4.4 L) GMC straight-6 engine powered the C60X 3-ton truck.
    The Ford and Chevrolet trucks shared a standard cab design, which evolved over the years of production. The first (designed at Ford by Sid Swallow), second and third cab designs were called No. 11, 12 and 13, respectively. The first two type were similar, the main difference being a two-part radiator grille in No.12 cab (its upper part was opened with a bonnet, which was known as the “Alligator cab”). The final No. 13 cab, an entirely Canadian design made from late 1941 until the end of the war, had the two flat panes of the windscreen angled slightly downward to minimize the glare from the sun and to avoid causing strong reflections that would be observable from aircraft. All the CMP cab designs had a short, “cab forward” configuration that gave CMP trucks their distinctive pug-nosed profile. This design was required to meet the original British specifications for a compact truck design that would be more efficient to transport by ship. The specifications also demanded right-hand drive. Internally the cab had to accommodate the comparatively large North American engines and it was generally cramped.[5] The standard cabs were then matched up with a variety of standard chassis, drive trains and body designs. Chevrolet-built vehicles could be recognised by the radiator grille mesh being of a diamond pattern, whereas Ford-built ones had grilles formed of a square mesh.

The pics, top, a Chevvy and two Fords

Cheers
Oily

If the Ford car ( belonging to Tankerjack on TNUK ) hadnt been on the photograph , then this would have looked
like a scene from 50 years ago.
The setting is on the A 6 , 20 yards from where the famous Leyland Clock was situated for many years.

Malcolm Handley from Kirkby Stephen owns the E.R.F. , and the Leyland Comet bears the name of
Dover & Sons from Keswick.

Cheers, cattle wagon man.

Cheers cattle wagon man

This link shows a Australian Army International ACCO , so not that far out in likeness at a distance.
4wdonline.com/International/ACCO.html
Oily

just stick some grease in the king pins while we have it here.

oiltreader:
This is begging for a caption, so come on have a go.
oily

Who is going to tell me what this drawbar unit started life as :question: UFS is/was an Edinburgh reg.
Oily

Final resting place of Leyland aviation fuel tanker, freezing in Finland courtesy of Finnish Aviation Museum Ilmailmuseo
Oily

oiltreader:
…and to Harry there was an almost identical Ford, as the pictures will show, so it could be either,

Thanks Oily, also Harry. Both Chevy & Ford used what seem to be identical cabs so either are possible.

oiltreader:
Who is going to tell me what this drawbar unit started life as :question: UFS is/was an Edinburgh reg.
Oily

First thought - an ex-BT or Forestry vehicle. Can only find one other pic of it but according to that it was still on the road a month ago, and at work with the Bulgarian State Circus.
(see flickr.com/photos/92392317@N … otostream/)

Here’s another similar one - “NAM Special Vehicle”, in IReland
flickr.com/photos/smallwarri … 350483@N21

A couple of youtube vids of another:
youtube.com/watch?v=rHUOgI7y0ak

All seem to have a badege “NAM Special Vehicles”, so googled that and came up with this from the CM archives from 40 years ago:
archive.commercialmotor.com/arti … d-nam-4x-4

SOME TIPPING JOBS call for a vehicle which can maintain good traction in unusually difficult site conditions, yet still conform to C and U Regulations for normal road use. A newcomer designed to meet this requirement is a 4 x 4 tipper built by NAM Special Vehicles, of Newton Abbot, Devon, on a Ford D800 chassis.

So it’s probable that NAM used the later D-Series cabs.
HTH

Here’s one of ours, any comments from the sheeting police ■■? Seriously, Nigel makes a cracking good job of sheeting up. Regards Kev. Ps I did give him a hand. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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My dad drove old Canadian Ford and Chervs when I was a little boy on lime spreading around the south east of england, remember many happy days on farms. The lorries were s(zb)t, but happy days and know look at me a lorry freak. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

oiltreader:

ParkRoyal2100:

oiltreader:
In the part of Ross-shire I live in we’ve hardly had a winter this time (could happen yet) not so in this cracking photo of years gone by.
download/file.php?id=71283&mode=view
Oily

Cracking photo that is. Can anyone ID the wagon behind the Austin? Looks a bit like what’s called a ‘Butterbox’ ACCO International here in Oz but very unlikely to be that.

PS would like to add my congrats to you on this thread Oily.

Hi ParkRoyal2100, Thanks for for PS.

…and to Harry there was an almost identical Ford, as the pictures will show, so it could be either, I remember them well. I also remember the “Ministry” coming round commandeering lorries off firms for the war effort and when the war was over and MOD transport surplus wagons were disposed of, a bargain was to be had for those in the market.

  • this an excerpt from Wikipedia…Major Canadian-built types
    The Ford-built CMP trucks had a 239 cu in (3.9 L), 95 bhp (70.8 kW) V8 engine, while most of the Chevrolet-built CMP trucks had a 215 cu in (3.5 L), 85 bhp (63.4 kW) straight-6 overhead-valve engine. An American-made 270 cu in (4.4 L) GMC straight-6 engine powered the C60X 3-ton truck.
    The Ford and Chevrolet trucks shared a standard cab design, which evolved over the years of production. The first (designed at Ford by Sid Swallow), second and third cab designs were called No. 11, 12 and 13, respectively. The first two type were similar, the main difference being a two-part radiator grille in No.12 cab (its upper part was opened with a bonnet, which was known as the “Alligator cab”). The final No. 13 cab, an entirely Canadian design made from late 1941 until the end of the war, had the two flat panes of the windscreen angled slightly downward to minimize the glare from the sun and to avoid causing strong reflections that would be observable from aircraft. All the CMP cab designs had a short, “cab forward” configuration that gave CMP trucks their distinctive pug-nosed profile. This design was required to meet the original British specifications for a compact truck design that would be more efficient to transport by ship. The specifications also demanded right-hand drive. Internally the cab had to accommodate the comparatively large North American engines and it was generally cramped.[5] The standard cabs were then matched up with a variety of standard chassis, drive trains and body designs. Chevrolet-built vehicles could be recognised by the radiator grille mesh being of a diamond pattern, whereas Ford-built ones had grilles formed of a square mesh.

The pics, top, a Chevvy and two Fords

Cheers
Oily

Lots of detail there ParkRoyal2100, cheers.

Hi kevmac47, nice pics cheers and to see the craft surviving from days gone by, like this trio, a big thanks to Ronnie Cameron.
Oily

Better ask Bewick hes your R&S critic.

kevmac47:
Here’s one of ours, any comments from the sheeting police ■■? Seriously, Nigel makes a cracking good job of sheeting up. Regards Kev. Ps I did give him a hand. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:10

oiltreader:
Lots of detail there ParkRoyal2100, cheers.

Hi kevmac47, nice pics cheers and to see the craft surviving from days gone by, like this trio, a big thanks to Ronnie Cameron.
Oily

Wonder if the Hippo had a second steer added (weren’t they normally 6 leggers?) or is it an Octopus that’s got a cab or badge from a hippo.