Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

That’s brilliant, Oily.

The MOD On the move heading south in Ponteland, Regards Larry.

oiltreader:
That’s a brilliant input Andrew, cheers for taking the time :smiley: .

The ex US Army Mack ( and the present weather) sent me looking for the following though not quite the same model. This is the winter of 1947 and an Aberdeenshire County Council ex army Mack, the similarity is the canvas cab. These photos are dear to my heart as the man on the right is my father born 1898, I never saw him wearing gloves, I have fond memories of him sitting by the hearth of an evening during these harsh winters melting candle grease onto his shovel and rubbing goose grease into his boots in preparation for the tomorrow.
When the plough got stuck, they would cast(local lingo) a track about 3ft wide for a few yards, the driver would reverse a bit, have a race at it and this got the plough going again.
I remember some of the tales with the drivers getting used to this mighty machine compared to the previous 4cyl AECs.
Oily

Evening Oily, that is real history, and one to be treasured, thanks for sharing. Cheerio for now.

Lawrence Dunbar:
0The MOD On the move heading south in Ponteland, Regards Larry.

Fitting photo of the army there, combined with the poppy reflection in the windscreen, the wagons I’m guessing are Oshkosh.
Oily

pete 359:

Big snout on that Martian Pete, did you happen to find out what engine was in it?
Maybe a Gardner 240 out of a Big J? :wink:
Bernard

From Dingwall and Inverness.
Oily

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Hi Oilreader, Here is an ex Aberdeenshire County Council Mack exhibited in the Grampian Transport Museum at Alford. This one has been modernised by fitting a Leyland Super Hippo / Beaver cab complete with period CAV - Smiths instrument panel and an AEC steering column and wheel complete with CAV dipswitch and hornpush. The gear lever looks to be Leyland also
Cheers. Leyland 600.
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oiltreader:

Lawrence Dunbar:
0The MOD On the move heading south in Ponteland, Regards Larry.

Fitting photo of the army there, combined with the poppy reflection in the windscreen, the wagons I’m guessing are Oshkosh.
Oily

The poppy is lying on the dash, I pulled over & stopped to take the shot, Also it allowed a bit more space for the Transporter to get passed, They come through the village now & again from Otterburn MOD, Regards Larry.

Leyland600:
Hi Oilreader, Here is an ex Aberdeenshire County Council Mack exhibited in the Grampian Transport Museum at Alford. This one has been modernised by fitting a Leyland Super Hippo / Beaver cab complete with period CAV - Smiths instrument panel and an AEC steering column and wheel complete with CAV dipswitch and hornpush. The gear lever looks to be Leyland also
Cheers. Leyland 600.10

Hi Leyland600, aye there are one or two ex snowplough Macks still about with the re-cab, I must have a look at Rapsons, Helmsdale when I go north in the spring, there’s a few pictures here and there. see here
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Oily

A few more winter shots.
Oily

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Snow Glossop 2010 Stephen and Clare Farnsworth cc by nc sa 2.04248669388_a616157a76 ...jpg

Some more Ian Britton photos.
Oily

f me the pics o the Mack snowploughs brings back memories …i started working for dumfries and galloway council road dept at lockerbie in the late 70s as a plant operator /roadman and remember the 2 Macks at our depot well! .They had canvas sides on cab and roofs were old road signs ,one had front discharge (back o cab) gritter and the other was a flat wi a chain drive winch.used to do 1 ish mpg when worked hard ,filled fuel tank at lockerbie and then refilled at Moffat to carry on up beeftub or over the greymairs tail. (A701&708)Both had petrol engines,twin stick iirc and believe me people still went up for there class 2 on them up to i think 76.
I remember greasing them ready for action (spare). they were replaced by maggie 6x6 T regs.
they went out for tender early 80s and i remember one o them pulled the other away for use in forrest.iirc 100gbp each was what they went for. :blush: :unamused: thought at least one o the dumfrieshire fleet should have been saved…
just noticed the two way radio :wink: looks exactly the same …lockerbie trucks were all …LIMA callsigns.
i am jimmy(young monk),my dad (monk) worked at same depot .
i was there first though :smiley: .good days way some real grafters some o them started before ww2 ,more than a few did 40+yrs service.

Getting back to Entress of Swansea, I’ve just found a You-Tube film entitled “Look at Life 1960” -Shopping by the Ton. It features Covent Garden, Smithfield, and Billingsgate Markets and there’s some familiar hauliers including Entress. Eight and a half minutes of pure nostalgia. Cheers Haddy.

haddy:
Getting back to Entress of Swansea, I’ve just found a You-Tube film entitled “Look at Life 1960” -Shopping by the Ton. It features Covent Garden, Smithfield, and Billingsgate Markets and there’s some familiar hauliers including Entress. Eight and a half minutes of pure nostalgia. Cheers Haddy.

Interesting that is Haddy, cheers for that, this is the link.
youtube.com/watch?v=RKSayesj6i8
Oily

JIMBO47:
f me the pics o the Mack snowploughs brings back memories …i started working for dumfries and galloway council road dept at lockerbie in the late 70s as a plant operator /roadman and remember the 2 Macks at our depot well! .They had canvas sides on cab and roofs were old road signs ,one had front discharge (back o cab) gritter and the other was a flat wi a chain drive winch.used to do 1 ish mpg when worked hard ,filled fuel tank at lockerbie and then refilled at Moffat to carry on up beeftub or over the greymairs tail. (A701&708)Both had petrol engines,twin stick iirc and believe me people still went up for there class 2 on them up to i think 76.
I remember greasing them ready for action (spare). they were replaced by maggie 6x6 T regs.
they went out for tender early 80s and i remember one o them pulled the other away for use in forrest.iirc 100gbp each was what they went for. :blush: :unamused: thought at least one o the dumfrieshire fleet should have been saved…
just noticed the two way radio :wink: looks exactly the same …lockerbie trucks were all …LIMA callsigns.
i am jimmy(young monk),my dad (monk) worked at same depot .
i was there first though :smiley: .good days way some real grafters some o them started before ww2 ,more than a few did 40+yrs service.

Hi JIMBO47, you mention they were petrol engined, that is how I remember them.
Oily

oiltreader:

haddy:
Getting back to Entress of Swansea, I’ve just found a You-Tube film entitled “Look at Life 1960” -Shopping by the Ton. It features Covent Garden, Smithfield, and Billingsgate Markets and there’s some familiar hauliers including Entress. Eight and a half minutes of pure nostalgia. Cheers Haddy.

Interesting that is Haddy, cheers for that, this is the link.
youtube.com/watch?v=RKSayesj6i8
Oily

No f/trucks and pallets there eh,the good old days.
regards dave.

haddy:
Getting back to Entress of Swansea, I’ve just found a You-Tube film entitled “Look at Life 1960” -Shopping by the Ton. It features Covent Garden, Smithfield, and Billingsgate Markets and there’s some familiar hauliers including Entress. Eight and a half minutes of pure nostalgia. Cheers Haddy.

I started going to the Garden when I was 12 (& by 14 was shunting the truck around there)with my Dad to buy fruit & veg. I recognized a couple of the porters, one was from Jamesons? unloading the oranges.Those boxes weighed 80lbs.& when I was 14 I could pick one up from the floor ,stick it on my shoulder 7 dump it on a tailboard. There was a trick to lifting them ,like judo? the other was from Barney Springer in Russel St… Also the little guy sweeping up was called Jock I knew well ,he was a real hard worker. Also noticed one of Tinker Paynes unloading onions.Didn’t see Dusty tho? Great little film.

I never did those markets at all until Covent Garden as a French driver about 10 years ago (that would be the new market wouldn’t it?), but those scenes were very familiar to me from doing Spitalfields back in the 70s when I was definitely put upon by the traders selling off my wagon instead of tipping me and letting me get away. :smiling_imp:

Also reminiscent of Rungis where I experienced similar stress with all the wagons trying to fit themselves into ‘impossible’ spaces. :unamused:

Many of the MINs in France are similarly nightmarish.

I didn’t like markets. :angry:

I was only 21 when I first started delivering to Covent Garden (the original site) and Spitalfields. Threading your way through all those barrows was an aquired art!

A few more wintery wagon scenes, this time from the Highways Agency and under Creative Commons licence compliance with regard to copyright.
Oily