Kempston:
Lawrence Dunbar:
0That’s a long old body on that with a hell of a hangover.
It sure is, I bet its fun to drive in the winter 
Larry.
That’s a long old body on that with a hell of a hangover.
Probably why it has the odd scrape at the back end, must be some reason for the overhang what is that under the back end?. Franky.
Dipster:
windrush:
Dipster:
Buzzer:
BuzzerPic 2. My brother had one of these with the 1.5 BMC diesel and a Borg Warner 5 automatic box. It was ex-bakery and obviously designed for around the streets deliveries. I am not sure how many were produced in this spec but it was a totally gutless wonder!
We serviced several with the auto box (although most were manual) and they were reliable enough. It was a very smooth running engine and also a popular fitment for the Cambridge and Oxford taxi versions. They also made a marine version.
Pete.
I just realised I said it had a Borg warner 5 'box. I meant 35. My keyboard is having a thing with 3s and Xs. Built-in obsolescence in action?
The old BW 35 wasn’t a bad box considering that it went in all sorts of things. Over here you could have a 6 cyl 4 litre falcon with one in it. Uprated brake bands and clutch packs etc, but basically the same box. I’ve done a few of them up back in the day. Reverse band adjustment in car was a bugger if you didn’t have the proper tool.
We serviced several with the auto box (although most were manual) and they were reliable enough. It was a very smooth running engine and also a popular fitment for the Cambridge and Oxford taxi versions. They also made a marine version.
Pete.
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I just realised I said it had a Borg warner 5 'box. I meant 35. My keyboard is having a thing with 3s and Xs. Built-in obsolescence in action?
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The old BW 35 wasn’t a bad box considering that it went in all sorts of things. Over here you could have a 6 cyl 4 litre falcon with one in it. Uprated brake bands and clutch packs etc, but basically the same box. I’ve done a few of them up back in the day. Reverse band adjustment in car was a bugger if you didn’t have the proper tool.
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It was a “popular” box in the UK too.
I say popular but in fact not many vehicles were autos in the 50s and 60s. But those that were often had a 35. This being the case I invested my time and money in a week-long course at the BW factory in Letchworth on this box. And in the tools (Churchill of course) to maintain and repair them correctly. Money and time well spent as I managed to find quite a bit of regular work on them. The later 45 was not, in my opinion, manufactured quite so nicely, castings becoming pressings, rear pumps omitted etc… But still not a bad box.
peterm:
A mate of mine had a Standard Beetle. Column gear lever on the right hand side of the wheel. There used to be a wreckers at Marlpit Lane, Coulsdon where I went for a bit for my Humber Hawk. I asked the bloke what all the wooden crates were for at the back of the yard and he said they were all Vanguard engines that he’d bought from the RAF but nobody wore them out.
The place at Coulsdon was called Grimes, they were the place for everything Standard. When my late brother came out of the REME in 1957 he bought a beetle-back Vanguard as he’d been impressed working on the army ones, I used to go there with him to get bits
Bernard
essexpete:
The Karrier with the TS3 must have been a pokey little lorry but a bit noisy on town work.
The Gamecock was heftier than the Bantam, to all intents a Karrier badged Commer QX on small wheels for low-loading use like brewery drays so probably tended to get out of town a bit more. Low loading was a bit of a Karrier speciality as they aimed a lot at municipal users such as dustcarts, but in later days you could get full size C range TS3 Commers badged as Karrier and aimed at councils, i think the Karrier/council association has a bit to do with some big councils running Karrier trolleybuses
Bernard
windrush:
Dipster:
Buzzer:
BuzzerPic 2. My brother had one of these with the 1.5 BMC diesel and a Borg Warner 5 automatic box. It was ex-bakery and obviously designed for around the streets deliveries. I am not sure how many were produced in this spec but it was a totally gutless wonder!
We serviced several with the auto box (although most were manual) and they were reliable enough. It was a very smooth running engine and also a popular fitment for the Cambridge and Oxford taxi versions. They also made a marine version.
Pete.
The marine conversions were often badged as Thornycroft.
windrush:
Dipster:
Buzzer:
BuzzerPic 2. My brother had one of these with the 1.5 BMC diesel and a Borg Warner 5 automatic box. It was ex-bakery and obviously designed for around the streets deliveries. I am not sure how many were produced in this spec but it was a totally gutless wonder!
We serviced several with the auto box (although most were manual) and they were reliable enough. It was a very smooth running engine and also a popular fitment for the Cambridge and Oxford taxi versions. They also made a marine version.
Pete.
Dad bought 2 new Routeman’s and they threw a Cambridge 1.5 diesel in, it sat in the yard and was used by everyone, one of the Drivers bought it, don’t remember him having any agg with it, as already mentioned, a bit gutless
Ray
These were lent to me by Ron Beckwith of the S J Beckwith family. Not entirely sure what the 8 wheeler is perhaps some one will know bt the ear axle or something else. The 8 wheeler appears to have an AEC style front? One is definitely AEC with the Marshal badge. The third does not have AEC badges but appears to be a Marshal Major? Ron and his brother John went with their own lorries in the late 60s/early 70s having worked for their brother Sid.
Continuing with the Borg Warner auto 'box conversation Manor Bakeries (Mr Kipling) ran a fleet of BMC 350 FG’s fitted with their gearbox and we serviced the Reading based ones. Only issue we had with them was split casings; there was a nylon ‘gate’ for the gear positions which wore and the drivers had a habit of going flat out in the lower forward gear and then snatching the lever back into second speed but going too far and actually hitting ‘park’ which actuated a pawl and ratchet that locked the box and spit it open! 
We used to get the gearboxes overhauled by a specialist who had a dedicated dust free area as any dirt entering the gearbox was a recipe for a breakdown.
Pete.
windrush:
Continuing with the Borg Warner auto 'box conversation Manor Bakeries (Mr Kipling) ran a fleet of BMC 350 FG’s fitted with their gearbox and we serviced the Reading based ones. Only issue we had with them was split casings; there was a nylon ‘gate’ for the gear positions which wore and the drivers had a habit of going flat out in the lower forward gear and then snatching the lever back into second speed but going too far and actually hitting ‘park’ which actuated a pawl and ratchet that locked the box and spit it open!Pete.
Indeed. I used to treat the internals of auto boxes with the same standards of cleanliness as for injection pumps.
Buzzer:
Buzzer
What is that Buzzer? Is it an A40?
essexpete:
Buzzer:
BuzzerWhat is that Buzzer? Is it an A40?
No idea Pete but sure as egg’s someone will know watch this space, Buzzer
Yes it is an A40.
Pete.