Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

Sunday service all stand, Buzzer

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Spardo:

Chris Webb:

vwvanman0:
Think the Anderson documentary was called “the limits of the law” but I’m stumped if i can find it on YouTube.

Steve

I think the driver was called Tommy Sneddon,leaving Newhouse for Birmingham area with a Scania 110,tipping and reloading and home without statutory breaks,just the odd doze over the wheel. McKelvies also took part,showing their lads doing Paisley - Newton le Willows and return on nights in various times,some of em way over spreadover time.They also did Paisley-Southampton in one shift and the BRS competitor ran out of time somewhere in Oxon or maybe Berks,can’t remember for certain. :smiley:

Ha ha, the ‘good’ old days eh? This was all pre motorways, maybe part of the M6 was available, but tight even now and that without tipping and reloading. I worked for a time with Ilkeston Haulage, who were well known (not that anyone got done while I was there) for day and nighting. Even my Dad, I was young and living still at home then, noticed my coming and going times and had a quiet word with me about it, and he had nothing to do with transport apart from holiday driving for a friend in his pre war uni days in Southampton.

My steed was a Highwayman, flat out at 38 mph, and the police actually moved us on if they saw us kipping, didn’t want whisky being nicked on their patch. :unamused: No tachos of course, not even log books, just schedules designed and printed off in the office of which we carried multiples, changing sheets as we passed from one limit to the other. The hardest job was not staying awake but trying to keep track of which sheet to hand out to any ministry man or copper who decided to take an interest. Nobody ever did to my knowledge and the only ‘danger’ to this way of operating was ministry ‘silent checks’. Hiding out of sight and noting reg numbers, times and places. There was no way you could cover that if there was a later check on records as you didn’t know when and where the check was made.

Can’t remember how long I did it, but I do know I was glad to be out of it when I was. :smiley:

Ahh, the log sheet - what my old man used to refer to as his “daily liar” :smiley:
Bernard

Thanks to Buzzer, mushroomman and lurpak for the photos :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Buzzers Bedford OY a lot of them about just after the war and the Blue Spot foglamp, dunno what the other gadget is, a foghhorn? looks like a semaphore indicator of sorts on the n/side and wide load mirrors.
Oily

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oiltreader:
Thanks to Buzzer, mushroomman and lurpak for the photos :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Buzzers Bedford OY a lot of them about just after the war and the Blue Spot foglamp, dunno what the other gadget is, a foghhorn? looks like a semaphore indicator of sorts on the n/side and wide load mirrors.
Oily

I reckon it was probably one of the Royal Airforce OYs they used in WW2 to haul Queen Marys about with. The lamp on the front looks like a hand-held Aldis lamp.

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albion1938:

Spardo:

Chris Webb:

vwvanman0:
Think the Anderson documentary was called “the limits of the law” but I’m stumped if i can find it on YouTube.

Steve

I think the driver was called Tommy Sneddon,leaving Newhouse for Birmingham area with a Scania 110,tipping and reloading and home without statutory breaks,just the odd doze over the wheel. McKelvies also took part,showing their lads doing Paisley - Newton le Willows and return on nights in various times,some of em way over spreadover time.They also did Paisley-Southampton in one shift and the BRS competitor ran out of time somewhere in Oxon or maybe Berks,can’t remember for certain. :smiley:

Ha ha, the ‘good’ old days eh? This was all pre motorways, maybe part of the M6 was available, but tight even now and that without tipping and reloading. I worked for a time with Ilkeston Haulage, who were well known (not that anyone got done while I was there) for day and nighting. Even my Dad, I was young and living still at home then, noticed my coming and going times and had a quiet word with me about it, and he had nothing to do with transport apart from holiday driving for a friend in his pre war uni days in Southampton.

My steed was a Highwayman, flat out at 38 mph, and the police actually moved us on if they saw us kipping, didn’t want whisky being nicked on their patch. :unamused: No tachos of course, not even log books, just schedules designed and printed off in the office of which we carried multiples, changing sheets as we passed from one limit to the other. The hardest job was not staying awake but trying to keep track of which sheet to hand out to any ministry man or copper who decided to take an interest. Nobody ever did to my knowledge and the only ‘danger’ to this way of operating was ministry ‘silent checks’. Hiding out of sight and noting reg numbers, times and places. There was no way you could cover that if there was a later check on records as you didn’t know when and where the check was made.

Can’t remember how long I did it, but I do know I was glad to be out of it when I was. :smiley:

Ahh, the log sheet - what my old man used to refer to as his “daily liar” :smiley:
Bernard

Hi tyneside, brill bit o olden days history and Im guessing with the carrier name Peacock(coal?) on it you are familar with the company, tweaked it a bit. Depot empty to Burnhope load of clay to Bearpark empty back to depot.
Oily

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tyneside:
One of these perhaps ■■

Something like that, but I don’t remember ours being so formal, typed up in the office I think. But it could be though, I was looking for a sequence number but there isn’t one, they came later I think in order to stop the use of multiples.

oiltreader:
Hi tyneside, brill bit o olden days history and Im guessing with the carrier name Peacock(coal?) on it you are familar with the company, tweaked it a bit. Depot empty to Burnhope load of clay to Bearpark empty back to depot.
Oily

Licence Holder:- R C Peacock. Eighton Banks. My Dad.

Driver:- John Ingram. Lived in the flats off Gateshead High St.

Dated:- 5th Aug 1964

Vehicle Reg:- 43 FBB Bedford 4 wheel tipper. O or S Model, the bull nose type, always get them mixed up !!!

Tyneside

Spardo:

tyneside:
One of these perhaps ■■

Something like that, but I don’t remember ours being so formal, typed up in the office I think. But it could be though, I was looking for a sequence number but there isn’t one, they came later I think in order to stop the use of multiples.

I’m thinking back best part of 70 years but IIRC father’s were similar but the firm’s own with their letterhead on. They weren’t numbered so two or three might be written up and discarded through the day before getting it “right” :smiley:

oiltreader:
Thanks to Buzzer, mushroomman and lurpak for the photos :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Buzzers Bedford OY a lot of them about just after the war and the Blue Spot foglamp, dunno what the other gadget is, a foghhorn? looks like a semaphore indicator of sorts on the n/side and wide load mirrors.
Oily

and a vintage AA badge Oily.

David

albion1938:

Spardo:

tyneside:
One of these perhaps ■■

Something like that, but I don’t remember ours being so formal, typed up in the office I think. But it could be though, I was looking for a sequence number but there isn’t one, they came later I think in order to stop the use of multiples.

I’m thinking back best part of 70 years but IIRC father’s were similar but the firm’s own with their letterhead on. They weren’t numbered so two or three might be written up and discarded through the day before getting it “right” :smiley:

Our log sheets weren’t numbered either,if you were running out of time just discard current sheet and make another out with a later start. Of course you had to take the risk of being silent checked and sheets being called for inspection by the dreaded “Man from t’Ministry”.

Chris Webb:

albion1938:

Spardo:

tyneside:
One of these perhaps ■■

Something like that, but I don’t remember ours being so formal, typed up in the office I think. But it could be though, I was looking for a sequence number but there isn’t one, they came later I think in order to stop the use of multiples.

I’m thinking back best part of 70 years but IIRC father’s were similar but the firm’s own with their letterhead on. They weren’t numbered so two or three might be written up and discarded through the day before getting it “right” :smiley:

Our log sheets weren’t numbered either,if you were running out of time just discard current sheet and make another out with a later start. Of course you had to take the risk of being silent checked and sheets being called for inspection by the dreaded “Man from t’Ministry”.

We seem to have landed ourselves in a land of old men of lawless activity. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: As a counter balance to my 38mph Highwayman, around the same time I was whistling down the M1 at 75 in a Kew Dodge. Nothing lawless about that of course, perfectly legal in those days. :wink: :slight_smile:

Hi Oily, this red Bedford artic belongs to Bob Parker from Kirkoswald, ■■■■■■■ who I have known on the rally scene since 1975. He has taken this Bedford to the far north of Scotland on two or three West Coast Run rallys. Also runs two other 1940s Bedfords one of which is a recovery vehicle and normally accompanys the artic. He will probably be at Kirkby Stephen Vintage Rally over the Easter weekend Saturday & Sunday.
Cheers, Leyland 600

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Start “O” the week, Buzzer

Leyland600:
Hi Oily, this red Bedford artic belongs to Bob Parker from Kirkoswald, ■■■■■■■ who I have known on the rally scene since 1975. He has taken this Bedford to the far north of Scotland on two or three West Coast Run rallys. Also runs two other 1940s Bedfords one of which is a recovery vehicle and normally accompanys the artic. He will probably be at Kirkby Stephen Vintage Rally over the Easter weekend Saturday & Sunday.
Cheers, Leyland 600

Thanks G, would this be them.
Oily

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Around 7pm on Saturday evening, I got a phone call requesting me to drive a neighbour to
A & E at Wigan Infirmary. Eventually, about 11pm, we exited A & E into the dark night and
saw this illuminated tree, loaded with thousands of blue and yellow bulbs, showing respect
for the unfortunate people of Ukraine. Lets hope this conflict ceases very soon.

Ray Smyth.

Ray Smyth:
Around 7pm on Saturday evening, I got a phone call requesting me to drive a neighbour to
A & E at Wigan Infirmary. Eventually, about 11pm, we exited A & E into the dark night and
saw this illuminated tree, loaded with thousands of blue and yellow bulbs, showing respect
for the unfortunate people of Ukraine. Lets hope this conflict ceases very soon.

Ray Smyth.

I agree entirely Ray, but with Putin massing his tanks from the east, on the flatlands ideal for mass tank battles like at Kursk, and his ability to rain missiles down on those poor souls from the safety (unless NATO gives the Ukrainians the right kind of missiles) of Russian bases, it seems unlikely.

Spardo:

Ray Smyth:
Around 7pm on Saturday evening, I got a phone call requesting me to drive a neighbour to
A & E at Wigan Infirmary. Eventually, about 11pm, we exited A & E into the dark night and
saw this illuminated tree, loaded with thousands of blue and yellow bulbs, showing respect
for the unfortunate people of Ukraine. Lets hope this conflict ceases very soon.

Ray Smyth.

I agree entirely Ray, but with Putin massing his tanks from the east, on the flatlands ideal for mass tank battles like at Kursk, and his ability to rain missiles down on those poor souls from the safety (unless NATO gives the Ukrainians the right kind of missiles) of Russian bases, it seems unlikely.

I agree wholeheartedly.

At the risk of offending the Mods here is a link to a fund-raiser for a Ukranian living in the UK, known to a friend, who wants to do something to help his homeland.

justgiving.com/crowdfunding … =xpYeV9a7p

As a humble bee-keeper he lacks funds for his project. He is also seeking drivers who might be prepared to drive aid to the Ukranian border. If you might be able to help please take a look.

Dear Mods, I do hope you can forgive me what I suspect might be seen as a transgression of forum rules in some way. But it is for a very good cause to help people who find themselves in a situation I hope we never face.

Web browsing and came across this beauty courtesy of roadtransporthall.com/