Passport check

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m_attt:
so even though all my family are all British, right back through the generations. I’m now going to be ripped of £80 quid for a passport to prove I can work in this country. what a joke.

you can use your birth certificate and national insurance number instead of a passport for right to work id

Here is the full list of approved documents

A passport showing the holder, or a person named in the passport as the child of the holder, is
a British citizen or a citizen of the UK and Colonies having the right of abode in the UK.
2.
A passport or national identity card showingthe holder, or a person named in the passport as
the child of the holder, is a national of a European Economic Area country or Switzerland.
3.
A Registration Certificate or Document Certifying Permanent Residence issued by the Home
Office to a national of a European Economic Area country or Switzerland.
4.
A Permanent Residence Card issued by the Home Office to the family member of a national of
a European Economic Area country or Switzerland.
5.
A current Biometric Immigration Document (Biometric Residence Permit) issued
by the Home Office to the holder indicating that the person named
is allowed to stay indefinitely in the UK, orhas no time limit on their stay in the UK.
6.
A current passport endorsed to show that the holder is exempt from immigration control, is
allowed to stay indefinitely in the UK, has the right of abode in the UK, or has no time limit on
their stay in the UK.
7.
A current Immigration Status Document issued by the Home Office to the holder with an
endorsement indicating that the named person is allowed to stay indefinitely in the UK,
or has no time limit on their stay in the UK, together with an official document giving the person’s
permanent National Insurance number and their name issued by a Government agency or a
previous employer.
8.
A full birth or adoption certificate issued in the UK which includes the name(s) of at least one of
the holder’s parents or adoptive parents, together with an official document giving the person’s
permanent National Insurance number and their name issued by a Government agency or a
previous employer.
9
A birth or adoption certificate issued in the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man or Ireland,
together with an official document giving the person’s permanent National Insurance number and their
name issued by a Government agency or a previous employer.
10
A certificate of registration or naturalisation as a British citizen, together with an official
document giving the person’s permanent National Insurance number and their name issued by
a Government agency or a previous employer

205:

m_attt:
so even though all my family are all British, right back through the generations. I’m now going to be ripped of £80 quid for a passport to prove I can work in this country. what a joke.

you can use your birth certificate and national insurance number instead of a passport for right to work id

thanks, that makes more sense :slight_smile:

m_attt:

205:

m_attt:
so even though all my family are all British, right back through the generations. I’m now going to be ripped of £80 quid for a passport to prove I can work in this country. what a joke.

you can use your birth certificate and national insurance number instead of a passport for right to work id

thanks, that makes more sense :slight_smile:

Correct …

There is NO legal requirement to hold a passport of any country for any reason except to travel to any country outside Great Britain.

I have a friend that has Never had a passport and has Never been outside mainland Britain yep not even the Isle of White, His answer

" I don’t need to go abroad to see how people live in their own country’s I see it here and it aint good so why waste my money

".

I know it is genetically programmed in to some drivers to be deliberately difficult and make a big issue of what is actually something very unimportant, as a child would, but really, what’s the problem? Show them your passport, take it home again. Not the end of the world.

Olog Hai:
I know it is genetically programmed in to some drivers to be deliberately difficult and make a big issue of what is actually something very unimportant, as a child would, but really, what’s the problem? Show them your passport, take it home again. Not the end of the world.

For those of us that dont have them, and dont want to spend another £80 on a government document thats needed once.

m_attt:

Olog Hai:
I know it is genetically programmed in to some drivers to be deliberately difficult and make a big issue of what is actually something very unimportant, as a child would, but really, what’s the problem? Show them your passport, take it home again. Not the end of the world.

For those of us that dont have them, and dont want to spend another £80 on a government document thats needed once.

A fair point if you haven’t got one, but as for those who do have them I don’t understand why they would make such a fuss about taking it to work one day. Attempting to show who’s the boss, no doubt.

Your driving licence gives the following

Your personal details (1, 2 and 3)

Fields 1, 2 and 3 of your photocard licence record your surname, first names, date and place of birth

is that not the same as a passport /birth certificate

in which case that should be enough

So that also make the NI number obsolete too, why not just bring in a credit card size ID document…those entitled get one, those who dont…wont…job done. 1 document for all types of ID.

truckyboy:
So that also make the NI number obsolete too, why not just bring in a credit card size ID document…those entitled get one, those who dont…wont…job done. 1 document for all types of ID.

Be careful what you wish for young man. We may have a relatively benevolent government at the moment but should the political situation change then you may just find that you fall within a group who would find themselves the target of a more malevonent regime, i.e. UKIP. IMHO :open_mouth: :imp: :imp:

truckyboy:
So that also make the NI number obsolete too, why not just bring in a credit card size ID document…those entitled get one, those who dont…wont…job done. 1 document for all types of ID.

that’s too easy I mean I have a dig card a driving licence a DQC ( DCPC) card company id card etc

LIBERTY_GUY:
I once had an agency reject me because my passport was six months out of date.

Makes ya laugh doesn’t it? It’s STILL YOU despite whether it’s out of date or not! I took the Queens shilling, fought for, and bled for MY country. If you want to know if I’m British you only have to speak to me, my colloquial grasp of my mother tongue should convince you!

Couple of points. Spike Miligan was, IIRC Irish, and travelled on an Irish passport. IIRC his father was Irish but in the British army ( it happened quite a lot) and he was born off British soil,under the various British Nationality acts he would have to go through the naturalisation process to gain British Citizenship. He refused to do this.

The driving licence does not prove Nationality. Birth in the UK does not give automatic British citizenship. It also depends on the parents, in some cases grandparents, status.

I can understand, to a degree why these new procedures have become necessary but if employment is given on the strength of, for instance a birth certificate or immigration document ,and this later proves to be a forgery will the employer be held responsible ■■?
There are some VERY clever forgeries out there and the average employer would never spot them !!! Cheers Tyneside
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m_attt:
so even though all my family are all British, right back through the generations. I’m now going to be ripped of £80 quid for a passport to prove I can work in this country. what a joke.

a birth certificate is cheaper and is just as good. My passport expired in 2005 and a birth certificate is accepted as an alternative

£80 not bad for a little book thats valid for 10 years and proberly one of the most evnied documents going that millions of people from around the world would love to get there hands on.

scanny77:

m_attt:
so even though all my family are all British, right back through the generations. I’m now going to be ripped of £80 quid for a passport to prove I can work in this country. what a joke.

a birth certificate is cheaper and is just as good. My passport expired in 2005 and a birth certificate is accepted as an alternative

it also states on your driving licence your country of birth, I’ll ask my old dear to have a look on me bottom and see if it says made and assembled in the UK later :wink: :wink:

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m_attt:
so even though all my family are all British, right back through the generations. I’m now going to be ripped of £80 quid for a passport to prove I can work in this country. what a joke.

you can use your birth certificate and national insurance number instead of a passport for right to work id

CORRECT :grimacing:

Fatboy slimslow:

205:

m_attt:
so even though all my family are all British, right back through the generations. I’m now going to be ripped of £80 quid for a passport to prove I can work in this country. what a joke.

you can use your birth certificate and national insurance number instead of a passport for right to work id

CORRECT :grimacing:

:laughing: wheres my gold star

I bloody love this country, well i did till it morphed into hell.

So let me get this right, i have a passport, long expired though and have no intentions of getting another, whether its still in the house is anybody’s guess, being told i have to get another is a sure fire way of guaranteeing i bloody wont.
I was born here nearly 60 years ago and have worked solidly since i was 15, and paid all me dues, and now i’m unemployable apparently because i can’t prove my entitlement to work…bwahahaha.

The few times i travel into certain cities i might as well be 3000 bloody miles away in another country, we have home grown but apparently foreign trained terrorists, plus child grooming gangs of certain backgrounds, some of whom are currently doing time for their crimes after years of being untouchable and blind eyes turned to their vile practices, we have countless illegal immigrants of which there are countless criminals among them…and now to get or keep MY job i have to prove i’m entitled to it

is it me?

Jesus wept, but the sound of echoing doors being slammed onto stables long empty is deafening.

High time we re-opened the lunatic asylums, their previous inmates have been in government far too long.

So someone thinks i`m being awkward or showing them whos the boss, yes bloody right mate, thats why we got where we are today by putting up a fight, and yes, i recently lost my job after a disciplinary proved me wrong, yet i believed in what i was doing, and YES i will do it again. I cant go to work if i dont show my passport, I cant drive a truck if i dont show my DCPC, i am English, and i am a minority in my own country, and the Passport office once told me never to hand over my document unless that person was an Immigration officer.
A passport only shows your date of birth, and where you were born, it does not show your address, therefore a full driving licence will show a lot more information, however,a foreigner should have to show his/her passport cos thats where immigration stamp their right to work and seeing that the majority are either black or chinese or asian looking, i dont look like any of them, and certainly do not talk like them, and i will refuse to show my passport to some polish bird in a bloody agency/transport office.

Some of you want to read what the law says before posting.
When did it become compulsory for a British Citizen to have a passport to work in the Country he was born in?
The short answer is: It Didn’t.

An employer must show that he has made satisfactory checks to make sure his employees have the right to work in the UK.