Parking on the kerb

When I did my test, I had to mount the pavement, I announced, the situation, and that I was proceeding with caution, and still passed. It’s not illegal to drive on the pavement at all , unless you taking the pss.

Rhythm Thief:
If I’m a pedestrian and someone’s parked on the kerb I never make too much effort to avoid walking into their wingmirrors.

You must look a bit daft doing that when it’s a wagon though?

Contraflow:

Rhythm Thief:
If I’m a pedestrian and someone’s parked on the kerb I never make too much effort to avoid walking into their wingmirrors.

You must look a bit daft doing that when it’s a wagon though?

I wear a big tall hat. :laughing:

Interesting reading. A co op I delivered to years ago in London was a front door delivery with cars lining both sides of the road as far as I could see. I reversed onto the pavement over the corner at a road junction and got blocked in by a BMW. I phoned the police to get it shifted and it got a parking ticket. Not a word said to me about being on the pavement even though I was fully on the pavement which was wide anyway so no obstructing of anyone. They even stopped the traffic for me which wasn’t really necessary but it was nice of them :smiley:

A couple of years back I got ticketed £30 I think for having half the tyre on a kerb (no points though). This was near the Esso at Purfleet. I didn’t park up till 2 in the morning so as usual there was no decent places to park

Where I live everyone parks on the kerb! It’s kind of an accepted thing here. There are hundreds of cars on the pavements! Try to leave a gap for buggies etc though.

bazza123:
Where I live everyone parks on the kerb! It’s kind of an accepted thing here. There are hundreds of cars on the pavements! Try to leave a gap for buggies etc though.

Cars doing that in residential streets is often an accepted practice by everyone

scanny77:
Interesting reading. A co op I delivered to years ago in London was a front door delivery with cars lining both sides of the road as far as I could see. I reversed onto the pavement over the corner at a road junction and got blocked in by a BMW. I phoned the police to get it shifted and it got a parking ticket. Not a word said to me about being on the pavement even though I was fully on the pavement which was wide anyway so no obstructing of anyone. They even stopped the traffic for me which wasn’t really necessary but it was nice of them :smiley:

I deliver in London a lot and never have any hassle off the police.

Without trying to ignite another cycling debate, anti or otherwise, it’s one of the things that annoy cyclists. Where In parts of the country you can get done for cycling on the pavement, yet the police turn a blind eye to vehicles parked on them.

Big Roy:
Could anyone tell me if you get points for parking with your wheels on the kerb or is it just a fine?

The Oxford English Dictionary defines a “kerb” as :

noun
a stone edging to a pavement or raised path.

As I cannot find a legal reference to parking on a “kerb” anywhere in English law, then I can safely say that it’s not illegal to park on one. This might be different in Scotland, but then lots of things are.

English law is based upon what a reasonable person thinks, which is why ignorance of the law is not a defence !

Where parking on . . . what a reasonable person would call a footway . . . is illegal, it is illegal because it is a byelaw. A byelaw is somewhat slightly different to the law in general.

It is NOT illegal to park on the kerb, except where a byelaw expressly forbids it, even then, a good brief would get you off the charge !

This sort of ■■■■■ is what we should be discussing here on TNUK, it affects all of us. Instead, we ■■■■ in the wind of one upmanship, calling on our sock puppets to reinforce our horribly wrong perceptions.

I regularly drive on the pavement, park on the kerb, block the free flow of traffic, all of this & much, much more. If I didn’t then my job would be impossible, occasionally some ■■■■■■■ brains comes up & challenges me, I can count on one hand the times that ■■■■■■■ has the mental capacity to be classed as a reasonable person.

ROG:
If obstruction is caused then you can be prosecuted by plod

If damage is cause you can be prosecuted by council

If seen driving onto the pavement then you can be prosecuted by plod and that is the worse one of the lot

I asked a few about this and it seems that if no damage is caused and no obstruction then its the act of actually driving on the pavement to get into or off of that position which is prosecutable but you must be seen doing that

That’s how this was explained to me by those that should know the law

Exactly as I was told :slight_smile:

When doing front door shop deliveries with cages, if there is a camber in the road I always bump my right/left wheels just on the kerb to level out the wagon. Never been done for it and I don’t think I will worry about it in future to be honest, I always make sure all pedestrians can get past no problem. Probably done my back no end of favours over the years, saves you battling with heavy trolleys trying to roll in the opposite direction you want them too, milk trolleys in particular were a swine.

scotstrucker:

Dave the Renegade:
Parking a lorry on the kerb causes them to sink,and become dangerous to pedestrians.

and it’s bad for tyres aswell

and service utilities like gas mains, water meters, telephone and electric cables as well as blocking footpaths for the blind and disabled, but don’t worry about it if it makes your day job easier…

Vehicles park on the kerb all the time, everywhere. The water runs, we get gas, we have electricity, the phones work, everybody goes about their business. Instances where people are inconvenienced/put in danger by it are extremely few and far between.

When doing multidrop work to shops etc. on busy streets it’s bloody hard work often getting parked up to do your delivery. If there is a choice between causing an obstruction by blocking the road/leaving it so people struggle to see round you, or bumping one side slightly onto the kerb a bit so everyone can get past no problem (including pedestrians), common sense dictates you do the latter. If no drivers did this streets would be getting blocked on a regular basis, this would be more of an issue to people than the odd broken paving slab. Nope, it’s not good and not ideal but not everything is.

There was a shop in Cheltenham I used to deliver to often from the kerb side with a 7.5 ton wagon.
I never parked on the kerb, I couldn’t due to the shops canopy.
But with my tyres against the kerb, the bend in the road, and the camber of the road, I would remove a good 12 inches of width from the pavement. With the side overhang you get on 7.5 ton motors, and the barn door wrapped around the side.
Would the overhang count as an obstruction, or do you have to have tyres on the pavement to count?
I had to be close to the kerb to allow the pallet truck to go off the side of the tail lift onto the pavement.