My company have started to try to force poa on us after 2 years of not using it !
they want us to switch to poa if we break down so they can reduce our average hours!! 
or if your stuck in a traffic jam etc
surley they cant do that??
how can you be available for other work if youve broken down ? or stuck in a traffic jam etc
seems like a way of geting more hours out of you??
can anyone clarify??
i will pop into vosa site if i get the chance, and they are open!! 
If your broken down i think its reasonable to put it on poa,after all you aint working.
But in a traffic jam it still counts as drive time, not poa or other work, what next stop at traffic lights put it on poa
do you break down often
stuck in a jam is not POA
i dont break down often 
company trying to get more out if us as usual
just trying to find a way to stop them schemeing more hours out of us
POA stands for Period Of Availability.
To me that means “at work, available to do work, but not actually doing any”. You should also know how long the POA will be, roughly.
If you have broken down, you fulfil that criteria
I take it you are being paid for POA? After all, you’re at work.
So, you may be at work for more hours, but you’ll be getting paid more for it.
If not, tell him to forget it.
I’m on a salary. I leave the yard on a Sunday morning. I finish when I get back to the yard, usualy on a Thursday. I use POA to suit myself.
Dunno why people bother with POA at all.
Rob K:
Dunno why people bother with POA at all.
More overtime for doing nothing? 
Money for old rope.
Were on salary.So doing poa makes my hourly rate less.As we dont get paid an extra for doing it.
We just dont do poa.
Tony b
Same here Tony we dont use it at all as we are salaried.
we are on salary also, they are trying to use it to bring down our average working hours ! but your still at work for a max of 15 hours so there is no difference - it cant be deducted from your hours as your still working for the company!!
so if i work a 12 hour day break down for 2 hours , they use POA and they reduce you work hours to 10 
cant be right or legal■■?
if 15 hours is the max, you cant deduct hours if your still on company time??
also our rota is such that we only get 36 hours weekly rest, i called VOSA and they tell me its the drivers decision wether to reduce your rest from 45 to 36 employers cant enforce reduced rest .
any one know better??
My lot have tried to reduce hours by tampering with time sheets.i;e if weve been broken down.But because we dont do poa.Our tacho is either on work (hammers) or break(bed)
So say we did a 52 hour week and they altered our time sheets for the wtd to 49 hours (because of breakdown).Our mode on the tacho is showing 52 hours for the week.
Surley that means falsifying tachos.and because we havnt written on the back (to cover our back)that weve accidently forgot to change the mode to poa or rest.The company are going to be in trouble.
Difficult to explain.
Weve got a driver that it has happened to.When he’s had his meeting about it i’ll report back.
Tony b.
tonyb…:
My lot have tried to reduce hours by tampering with time sheets.i;e if weve been broken down.But because we dont do poa.Our tacho is either on work (hammers) or break(bed)So say we did a 52 hour week and they altered our time sheets for the wtd to 49 hours (because of breakdown).Our mode on the tacho is showing 52 hours for the week.
Surley that means falsifying tachos.and because we havnt written on the back (to cover our back)that weve accidently forgot to change the mode to poa or rest.The company are going to be in trouble.
Difficult to explain.
Weve got a driver that it has happened to.When he’s had his meeting about it i’ll report back.Tony b.
Could be very handy to know the outcome!
I don’t think theres much point you askng us about POA. You, your mate and the rest of your work-mates should really be talking to a lawyer about it.
It shouldn’t be your gaffer falsifiying tachos you would be talking to the lawyer about either. Your gaffer doesn’t need to falsify them, he’s got them.
Its having hours worked deducted from your pay that you should be talking to the lawyer about.
If anyone is in a union (especially the driver who had his pay docked), this is just their sort of thing they like to get there teeth into.
It’s to do with Employment Law, nothing to do with POA at all really.
A union lawyer would be free, to a union member of course.
Otherwise, he needs to be talking to the C.A.B.