OllieNotts:
I dont really use POA especially if I am knowing my tipping could take 2-7 hours when im on hanging garments. I just stick it on break and leave it there and get my lap top out and then have a sleep Love it some days hate it others but I cant see how anyone can argue that im not on a break when im in bed for 5 hours
Do I guess right that you are paid for breaks ?
Also by doing over 3 consecutive hours on break means you could, if you wished to, use those 3 hours for a split daily rest which does not count as a reduced one
Paid breaks yes, never a need to split so just stick it on break and do what I wish any other time I leave it on hammers poa is stupid as far as my current type of work goes.
DieselDemon:
Actually, JD is quite correct, not only must you be free to do as you please, you have to have been informed exactly how long your period of POA will be.
Thatâs not correct - you only need to know roughly how long it will be, and you can get that knowledge from your own previous experience without anyone telling you anything at all. e.g. If you know that Tescos at wherever it is usually take an hour to tip you, then an hour spent waiting can be POA. But if there was a hitch and it went on for another hour then strictly speaking that second hour would not be classed as POA unless they told you about the extra hourâs delay before the end of the original one hour of POA.
in my experiance at tesco the hour the last time you were there means nothing the next time your there, it could be 1/2/3/4/5/6/7 hrs, theres no ryme or reason ,i can get the decker tipped in a hour 1 day and take 5 hrs to get the single deck tipped the next.
if i got tipped in a hour tomorrow at tesco i wouldnt put a penny on it being a hour the next time.
tramper37:
can some one please clarify before i have an arcuement with the boss,that sitting at a tesco rdc getting tipped in there waitin room is counted as poa? cheers
no, why, you dont no in advance how long, they wont tell you how long, and lastly you havent got a clue how long.
tramper37:
can some one please clarify before i have an arcuement with the boss,that sitting at a tesco rdc getting tipped in there waitin room is counted as poa? cheers
Depends:
It is if:
a) Youâre told how long itâll take or,
b) You know from previous experience how long itâll be. BUT ONLY UP TO THE TIME YOUâRE TOLD OR THE TIME YOU EXPECT
If neither a or b apply then it is other work as you are not free to dispose of your time as you wish.
tramper37:
can some one please clarify before i have an arcuement with the boss,that sitting at a tesco rdc getting tipped in there waitin room is counted as poa? cheers
Depends:
It is if:
a) Youâre told how long itâll take or,
b) You know from previous experience how long itâll be. BUT ONLY UP TO THE TIME YOUâRE TOLD OR THE TIME YOU EXPECT
If neither a or b apply then it is other work as you are not free to dispose of your time as you wish.
You really need to read the hours regulations. Youâve posted several times on here recently claiming you canât book break as you are not free to dispose of your time, which is just nonsense. The requirement to be able to freely dispose of your time is for REST not BREAK, the two things are different. Break is simply a period where the driver does no driving or other work and the time is used for recuperation.
Itâs especially ironic given you have also posted recently criticising the professionalism of people because they do not know the regulations when your own knowledge is lacking on a very basic part of the regulations. People in glass houses and all that.
To answer tramper37âs question, if you know the length of the wait in advance through being told or from previous experience then it can be POA. If not then you can book it as break.
DieselDemon:
Actually, JD is quite correct, not only must you be free to do as you please, you have to have been informed exactly how long your period of POA will be.
Being free to do as you please is neither a requirement of POA or Break, that only applies to rest which is a different thing.
tasty:
which is why you are allowed if wanted to have a " BREAK" while being tipped if you are not doing any work.
Have a break have a kit kat and get the tele on because if they donât want anyone to haul freight anywhere anymore to save the planet (more like give all the work to the air and rail freight industry and whatâs left over to the foreign haulage fleets) we might as well make ourselves at home.
why is a break not a rest , when I am on weekend rest ,I have to go out to have a break from a neibour who has been doing his house up big style for the last 4 years. lets be honest the poa is to cover long work hours, I dont care where you are if you are doing things that are to do with work then the time should count the same as drive time I know I will upset some on here but the 15 hour spread should be consiegned to the dark ages
fuse:
why is a break not a rest , when I am on weekend rest ,I have to go out to have a break from a neibour who has been doing his house up big style for the last 4 years. lets be honest the poa is to cover long work hours, I dont care where you are if you are doing things that are to do with work then the time should count the same as drive time I know I will upset some on here but the 15 hour spread should be consiegned to the dark ages
If we could just keep the wheels turning instead of spending hours transhipping loads and run directly from the manufacturers to the place of delivery you could probably get rid of those long spreadovers.If we were all paid by the mile instead of other ways then the day would consist mainly of just the driving time needed to do the runs because no one will work for nothing.poa isânt being used to cover anything itâs just a symptom of an inefficient way of running a transport operation.
You have it in one carryfast if the customer had to pay a fair rate for a truck waiting that wuold be ok, can you imagine a taxi waiting for you outside house for 3 hours free gratias , I dont think so
Love it some days hate it others but I cant see how anyone can argue that im not on a break when im in bed for 5 hours
