adam277:
Reminds me of city link going bust @ XMAS
Shame the idiots who ran it into the ground won’t suffer just the guys being paid peanuts.
It wasn’t just City Link employees that got stuffed with that one, a local small operator near me was flat out pulling CL trailers in the run up to xmas and didn’t get paid for it, put them in a difficult position: driverrequire.co.uk/little-cash- … creditors/
On Saturday I saw a P&H truck delivering to the Tesco Extra that I use. I was struck by what a ■■■■ job it looked like. The driver was grafting away moving some things off the lift into a cage that was presumably the shop’s. He had already been blocked in by the normal ‘just nipping in’ brigade who park wherever they please despite there being a half-empty car park around the back and once he was clear he had the job of trying to reverse out onto a main road. All of that on a Saturday afternoon while people like me are getting in his way as I stop for a couple of papers before heading to the pub for the afternoon session.
It is terrible to see those lads booted onto the dole a month before Christmas, but if they are willing to do that kind of work, they will hopefully not take too long to get themselves fixed up with something else. Firms that require a bit of manual labour are never usually over-staffed.
Olog Hai:
On Saturday I saw a P&H truck delivering to the Tesco Extra that I use. I was struck by what a [zb] job it looked like. The driver was grafting away moving some things off the lift into a cage that was presumably the shop’s. He had already been blocked in by the normal ‘just nipping in’ brigade who park wherever they please despite there being a half-empty car park around the back and once he was clear he had the job of trying to reverse out onto a main road. All of that on a Saturday afternoon while people like me are getting in his way as I stop for a couple of papers before heading to the pub for the afternoon session.It is terrible to see those lads booted onto the dole a month before Christmas, but if they are willing to do that kind of work, they will hopefully not take too long to get themselves fixed up with something else. Firms that require a bit of manual labour are never usually over-staffed.
I did it for 12 months mate out of Haydock depot. The Costcutter contract started while I was there, and 3 of my customers (all brothers with a shop each around Stockport) stopped using them after a couple of months. I was sick to death of apologising to them for only delivering 50% (at best) of their orders. The brothers contacted Costcutter and told them that they were going to someone else for their stock, and if they got any mither from P&H, they would sue them for breach of contract 
The job itself was bloody hard graft. Wheeled cages overloaded with alcohol and/or bottles of pop being pushed up gravel paths 
Customers wanted you to decant all the cages of stock and place all the stuff in nice piles of 5 or 10 so they could check it off. Shell petrol stations were the worst, mostly staffed by Mohammed and his million brothers. Spoke to you like crap.
Good riddance. P&H have left the building…
eagerbeaver:
Olog Hai:
On Saturday I saw a P&H truck delivering to the Tesco Extra that I use. I was struck by what a [zb] job it looked like. The driver was grafting away moving some things off the lift into a cage that was presumably the shop’s. He had already been blocked in by the normal ‘just nipping in’ brigade who park wherever they please despite there being a half-empty car park around the back and once he was clear he had the job of trying to reverse out onto a main road. All of that on a Saturday afternoon while people like me are getting in his way as I stop for a couple of papers before heading to the pub for the afternoon session.It is terrible to see those lads booted onto the dole a month before Christmas, but if they are willing to do that kind of work, they will hopefully not take too long to get themselves fixed up with something else. Firms that require a bit of manual labour are never usually over-staffed.
I did it for 12 months mate out of Haydock depot. The Costcutter contract started while I was there, and 3 of my customers (all brothers with a shop each around Stockport) stopped using them after a couple of months. I was sick to death of apologising to them for only delivering 50% (at best) of their orders. The brothers contacted Costcutter and told them that they were going to someone else for their stock, and if they got any mither from P&H, they would sue them for breach of contract
The job itself was bloody hard graft. Wheeled cages overloaded with alcohol and/or bottles of pop being pushed up gravel paths
Customers wanted you to decant all the cages of stock and place all the stuff in nice piles of 5 or 10 so they could check it off. Shell petrol stations were the worst, mostly staffed by Mohammed and his million brothers. Spoke to you like crap.Good riddance. P&H have left the building…
haha, I can relate to all that.
Perhaps Brake foodservice will find a few recruits from the stock of ex P&H drivers !
Twoninety88:
Perhaps Brake foodservice will find a few recruits from the stock of ex P&H drivers !
Dont Bidvest 3663 do very similar work to P&H also?
Twoninety88:
Perhaps Brake foodservice will find a few recruits from the stock of ex P&H drivers !
They tweeted an advert for P&H drivers earlier
I have had dealings with P&H for years and wanted to add a few unofficial comments.
The charge holders are listed here: beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp … 58/charges
P&H owed the banks over a quarter of a billion in their last accounts.
It is awfully sad re the redundancies. The administrators are trying to find a buyer, though I am not sure how successful they will be.
P&H was owned by the staff so many will have lost both their jobs and savings. Office staff numbers were in decline for some time.
The banks could have stopped the wages going out by placing a marker on the bank account. It is very easy to do and takes only a few moments. The workers banks would then have received a payment that didn’t clear and charged the worker a return fee. I don’t know why the secured creditors allowed the payments to go through as it puts them in a bigger hole, but I am glad that they did. I suspect they hoped it would make a sale go through more easily, keep workers goodwill and reduce claims to the administrator.
The business revolves around three main outgoing bills, on the 14th of each month duty needs to be paid to the HM Customs and Revenue for all of the cigarette and alcohol sales. If this is not paid then the business effectively stops there. I was surprised to see the business fail so late in the month as I would have guessed that they would be the first hurdle that P&H fell at.
The second major outgoing is wages. Again these were paid.
Then it is key suppliers, that is Japan Tobacco International and Imperial Brands at the top and these companies lent P&H millions to keep them trading. I did wonder if they were going to buy the business at one time as P&H are one of their key routes to market.
P&H were paying suppliers by cheque. Cash flow was that tight that cheques brought them a few extra days.
eagerbeaver:
I did it for 12 months mate out of Haydock depot. The Costcutter contract started while I was there, and 3 of my customers (all brothers with a shop each around Stockport) stopped using them after a couple of months. I was sick to death of apologising to them for only delivering 50% (at best) of their orders. The brothers contacted Costcutter and told them that they were going to someone else for their stock, and if they got any mither from P&H, they would sue them for breach of contractThe job itself was bloody hard graft. Wheeled cages overloaded with alcohol and/or bottles of pop being pushed up gravel paths
Customers wanted you to decant all the cages of stock and place all the stuff in nice piles of 5 or 10 so they could check it off. Shell petrol stations were the worst, mostly staffed by Mohammed and his million brothers. Spoke to you like crap.
Good riddance. P&H have left the building…
I take my hat off to those lads (and ladies) who do the HGV jobs that require a serious amount of graft. It’s not for me, but if it wasn’t for them doing what they do, there would be even more empty shelves.
The problem with all of these retail places and the jobs that go with them in the supply chain is that everybody has been conditioned to want everything for nothing. There’s then no money in the pot to pay a decent wage for a fair day’s work, to generate a decent profit that allows a business to be secure and invest for the future, or to allow for the unforeseen when something goes badly wrong. That’s the real reason why all of these people are on the dole, just the same as it was for City Link a few years ago.
As long as utter scum like Corbyn and his half-witted sidekick John McDonnell are busy telling everyone that profit it a dirty word, these kind of things will continue.
People always say that just before Christmas is a terrible time to lose a job. I think that just after would be worse.
1- They have time to reduce spending now so that they won’t have that bib CC bill in January and no wages.
2- For drivers and warehouse staff, jobs are really easy to find now. Everything goes quiet in January.
3- From the POV of the receivers, locking the gate at the end of a pay period makes good sense. Wages have first call on the assets anyway, so that stops several thousand claims.
It’s always a shock to be made redundant, even if you know it’s on the cards. The ones to feel sorry for are those who suddenly find those shares that were going to pay for cruises in retirement, are just junk now.
Olog Hai:
eagerbeaver:
I did it for 12 months mate out of Haydock depot. The Costcutter contract started while I was there, and 3 of my customers (all brothers with a shop each around Stockport) stopped using them after a couple of months. I was sick to death of apologising to them for only delivering 50% (at best) of their orders. The brothers contacted Costcutter and told them that they were going to someone else for their stock, and if they got any mither from P&H, they would sue them for breach of contractThe job itself was bloody hard graft. Wheeled cages overloaded with alcohol and/or bottles of pop being pushed up gravel paths
Customers wanted you to decant all the cages of stock and place all the stuff in nice piles of 5 or 10 so they could check it off. Shell petrol stations were the worst, mostly staffed by Mohammed and his million brothers. Spoke to you like crap.
Good riddance. P&H have left the building…
I take my hat off to those lads (and ladies) who do the HGV jobs that require a serious amount of graft. It’s not for me, but if it wasn’t for them doing what they do, there would be even more empty shelves.
The problem with all of these retail places and the jobs that go with them in the supply chain is that everybody has been conditioned to want everything for nothing. There’s then no money in the pot to pay a decent wage for a fair day’s work, to generate a decent profit that allows a business to be secure and invest for the future, or to allow for the unforeseen when something goes badly wrong. That’s the real reason why all of these people are on the dole, just the same as it was for City Link a few years ago.
As long as utter scum like Corbyn and his half-witted sidekick John McDonnell are busy telling everyone that profit it a dirty word, these kind of things will continue.
You’re joking right? Profit a dirty word. No mate, plenty of businesses make more than enough profit. and could still make a decent profit as well as pay a fair wage and the tax man the full amount. They don’t because they’re greedy.
Businesses go under because they’re poorly run or are being asset stripped. From what I’ve read p&h was incredibly poorly run.
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mrginge:
adam277:
Reminds me of city link going bust @ XMAS
Shame the idiots who ran it into the ground won’t suffer just the guys being paid peanuts.It wasn’t just City Link employees that got stuffed with that one, a local small operator near me was flat out pulling CL trailers in the run up to xmas and didn’t get paid for it, put them in a difficult position: driverrequire.co.uk/little-cash- … creditors/
Citylink didn’t pay their employees their last payslip so at least P&H guys are getting that. At least this P&H mess is not as bad as what happened at citylink.