coreysboys:
The fact youre asking the question shows what a professional driver you are!
I would do what the others have said too, but have to ask why any pro would even bother hanging it out to overtake there fully laden so that you had to back off to get him out of the brown stuff.
How the friggin hell does asking a random question to see what people’s opinion is show that I’m not a professional driver you absolute tool?! Is this not a truck forum? Aren’t forums a place where people post random topics, in the case of this particular forum they are ‘trucking topics’…don’t comment if u can’t be sensible.
I think you may find that he was actually complimenting you!
Really?? If that is the case then I apologise for jumping the gun…
This is Trucknet. If you don’t jump the gun you’re not welcome here!!
Rob K:
B. keep your toe down as he was only level with your cab, not past it.
And if I was in his position I’d want you to carry on as you are so I can slot back in behind.
A professional driver would’ve judged the situation better and eased off a bit on the flat to maintain the distance from you, then powered into the bottom of the hill at full chat, safe in the knowledge that he wouldn’t catch up with you and ‘need’ to overtake whilst losing speed.
it boils my ■■■■ truck drivers, I call them ‘momentum lads’ who driving truck slower than yours use the momentum of their full loaded truck to pass you only for you to overtake on the straight, next hill happens again and so forth, pricks.
tallyman:
I would keep going. If you slowed down and he continued to slow then you could end up with two lanes running slow, he would eventually pull in in front of you, you would have to wait for a gap in the now built-up traffic behind and pull out, then accelerate back up to speed and then pull in again - 3 manoeuvres . If you stay in your lane and keep going he pulls in behind - one manoeuvre, therefore less chance of an accident.
Absolutely right, in my view and if I was in the laden truck get the indicator on as soon as I knew I was going to be out run, slot in neatly behind and let anything behind me pass.
Cruise Control:
it boils my ■■■■ truck drivers, I call them ‘momentum lads’ who driving truck slower than yours use the momentum of their full loaded truck to pass you only for you to overtake on the straight, next hill happens again and so forth, pricks.
It’s called ‘making proper progress’. We should all be confident enough and competent enough to use all available lanes to make progress. If you’re faster on a downhill and complete the manoeuvre without hindering anyone else then what’s the problem? So you get overtaken again? So what? That’s what overtaking lanes are for.
Would you have us all in a line braking on the down hill just so that no-one has to venture out to overtake? That’s like the car drivers in the middle lane who are too scared to move their head from looking straight forward to check their mirrors and move over.
Why shouldn’t both vehicles make the same progress and use the undulations to their advantage? You may think it makes no difference, but you could end up a long way back if you don’t use the road fully to keep up.
Cruise Control:
it boils my ■■■■ truck drivers, I call them ‘momentum lads’ who driving truck slower than yours use the momentum of their full loaded truck to pass you only for you to overtake on the straight, next hill happens again and so forth, pricks.
It’s called ‘making proper progress’. We should all be confident enough and competent enough to use all available lanes to make progress. If you’re faster on a downhill and complete the manoeuvre without hindering anyone else then what’s the problem? So you get overtaken again? So what? That’s what overtaking lanes are for.
Would you have us all in a line braking on the down hill just so that no-one has to venture out to overtake? That’s like the car drivers in the middle lane who are too scared to move their head from looking straight forward to check their mirrors and move over.
Why shouldn’t both vehicles make the same progress and use the undulations to their advantage? You may think it makes no difference, but you could end up a long way back if you don’t use the road fully to keep up.
Don’t talk rubbish please. How much time do you think you “save” by letting it overrun by 4mph for half a minute on a gradient? It’s negligible and not even worth bothering with. All it serves to do is ■■■■ off the trucker that you keep overtaking, only to hold him up again when you get to the next incline, especially if the traffic is anything other than quiet.
And don’t even think about using the old favourite “I’ll miss my booking time/won’t have enough hours to get home” excuses. If your company plans your jobs that tight that you have to run at 60 every chance you get then you’re in the wrong job flower. It’s foot-to-the-floor merchants like you that cause all the elephant racing and clogging up of the road networks.
Depends if it was busy or not, if traffic was heavy I would ease off and let him just come by, if it was quiet (as I work lates) then I would leave him to sort himself out but I would NOT let it run on down the other side to just be awkward.
Good to see the question asked in a civilised manner. If I find myself in that situation when overtaking, I am more than happy for the lighter truck to continue as he is and I will drop in behind when suitable. It’s all about fuel economy these days, maintain the momentum you have gained by burning that expensive diesel when at all possible.
Cruise Control:
it boils my ■■■■ truck drivers, I call them ‘momentum lads’ who driving truck slower than yours use the momentum of their full loaded truck to pass you only for you to overtake on the straight, next hill happens again and so forth, pricks.
It’s called ‘making proper progress’. We should all be confident enough and competent enough to use all available lanes to make progress. If you’re faster on a downhill and complete the manoeuvre without hindering anyone else then what’s the problem? So you get overtaken again? So what? That’s what overtaking lanes are for.
Would you have us all in a line braking on the down hill just so that no-one has to venture out to overtake? That’s like the car drivers in the middle lane who are too scared to move their head from looking straight forward to check their mirrors and move over.
Why shouldn’t both vehicles make the same progress and use the undulations to their advantage? You may think it makes no difference, but you could end up a long way back if you don’t use the road fully to keep up.
Don’t talk rubbish please. How much time do you think you “save” by letting it overrun by 4mph for half a minute on a gradient? It’s negligible and not even worth bothering with. All it serves to do is ■■■■ off the trucker that you keep overtaking, only to hold him up again when you get to the next incline, especially if the traffic is anything other than quiet.
And don’t even think about using the old favourite “I’ll miss my booking time/won’t have enough hours to get home” excuses. If your company plans your jobs that tight that you have to run at 60 every chance you get then you’re in the wrong job flower. It’s foot-to-the-floor merchants like you that cause all the elephant racing and clogging up of the road networks.
Well I wasn’t thinking about using any of those excuses as none of them apply to me. I’m doing quite a relaxed night trunk to Carlisle at the moment so no ‘book in time’ to miss As for the elephant racing, I think that’s mainly caused by trucks overtaking each other when they’re only about half a click faster than the other. I don’t do that, and will assist a slow overtake by someone else if practicable.
Using gradients though usually means quite a reasonable overtake speed, causing little hassle to anyone else. I certainly don’t want to be behind someone on a down hill dabbing my brakes every few seconds, when I can be whooshing down the hill with the wind in my hair And powering past someone uphill when you’re empty is far better than staying behind and getting slower and slower… I enjoy driving and will usually stay well back from the vehicle in front as looking at someone’s back doors for miles is no fun, but if I can get round someone quickly, I will.
I’ve found out over the years, leaving the sheet over an empty tipper can encourage these situations; Drivers pull out expecting you to slow down on an incline and then come unstuck. I’d presume that Sy had the sheet over the bulker (fuel saving)?
del949:
if the driver of the laden truck has any experience at all he will be expecting you to continue and will be preparing to drop back in behind you.
carry on.
^^This^^
When back on the flat again and he tried a second time to get past I’d then back off a bit to let him fly by with a friendly wave etc.
For me its a case of thinking of all road users. If he had started to overtake but then as you climbed he was not making any progress I would continue. If he was making slight progress I would give it a minute or two and then if he still progresses i would probably lift for a bit to let him pass as he obviously has a higher top speed and it saves jamming up two lanes.
I watched two pricks on the M1 earlier this week. Overtaking each other and taking miles to do it all the while holding two lanes up.Its no wonder cars do stupid things to get around. How hard is it to lift in that situation - how much time do you lose 30 seconds? Plain daft in my view
del949:
if the driver of the laden truck has any experience at all he will be expecting you to continue and will be preparing to drop back in behind you.
carry on.
^^This^^
When back on the flat again and he tried a second time to get past I’d then back off a bit to let him fly by with a friendly wave etc.
+1
You’re always going to get variations between the different speeds that different trucks run at on the flat and when climbing.The same applied in the days before limiters especially with the smaller engined heaps like DAF 2500’s and F7’s running at around 30 t gross,which took all day to wind up to around 60 mph on the flat and were then zb’d as soon as they reached a hill,mixed with the other larger engined wagons which could fly up the hills running at similar weights.Although having said that limiters are zb’ing up the natural order of things which stopped the issue of miles of side by side running wether on the flat or when climbing.
grumpybum:
I certainly don’t want to be behind someone on a down hill dabbing my brakes every few seconds, when I can be whooshing down the hill with the wind in my hair
coreysboys:
The fact youre asking the question shows what a professional driver you are!
I would do what the others have said too, but have to ask why any pro would even bother hanging it out to overtake there fully laden so that you had to back off to get him out of the brown stuff.
How the friggin hell does asking a random question to see what people’s opinion is show that I’m not a professional driver you absolute tool?! Is this not a truck forum? Aren’t forums a place where people post random topics, in the case of this particular forum they are ‘trucking topics’…don’t comment if u can’t be sensible.
Dont let it worry ya mate, its posts like that that generally sum up this forum perfectly!!
You gota watch what you say and ask around here as there are so many perfect, whiter than white, righteous pricks here its ■■■■■■■ unbelieveable. Dont think Ive ever come across one with so much ‘in-fighting’ and back stabbing in all my life. No wonder driving for a living is such a joy now- NOT.
Gembo:
Dont let it worry ya mate, its posts like that that generally sum up this forum perfectly!!
You gota watch what you say and ask around here as there are so many perfect, whiter than white, righteous pricks here its [zb] unbelieveable. Dont think Ive ever come across one with so much ‘in-fighting’ and back stabbing in all my life. No wonder driving for a living is such a joy now- NOT.
It depends how far he’d got, if he’d almost done it I’d back off. If not I’d keep on the limiter as hitting the brakes could cause problems for anyone behind me.
How much time do you think you “save” by letting it overrun by 4mph for half a minute on a gradient? It’s negligible and not even worth bothering with. All it serves to do is ■■■■ off the trucker that you keep overtaking, only to hold him up again when you get to the next incline, especially if the traffic is anything other than quiet.
As for the elephant racing, I think that’s mainly caused by trucks overtaking each other when they’re only about half a click faster than the other. I don’t do that, and will assist a slow overtake by someone else if practicable.
