Roadtoad:
The mentality of some drivers to pass you at all costs beggars belief. The number of times I am part passed by a full load at the bottom of a hill amazes me. No thought goes into the terrain these days.
Cant speak for everyone else but i can shed some light on this. My truck usually runs at maximum weight and i try to keep as much momentum as i can when approaching hills, sometimes as im approaching a hill if im gaining significantly on a slower truck i’ll start to ‘overtake’, even though i know i wont be able to pass, its just so i can keep the momentum going. Might appear pointless but slowing to match the speed of the other truck can make a huge difference.
alte hase:
ï‚· Ignoring a lane closed sign and pushing into an orderly
queue
Hang on.
If the sign says that lane 2 of a dual carriegway is closed in 600 yards for instance, surely that means that for the next 600 yards the lane is still open and you should be getting ready to get out of it when possible. Far as I am concerned that 600 yards is there to be used and good luck to those who use it.
Typical of brits who love to queue up for stuff to opt to join the back of a long line when the other lane is empty.
Absolutely, in Europe the sign’s all say drive up to the closure & filter one from each lane.
Last week I had a Foulger from Snetterton Daf pulling a double decker near take my winscreen wipers off, I couldn’t believe it as I’d looked across as he passed & must’ve been at least 60 so not some kid trying to prove how good he is!!
alte hase:
ï‚· Ignoring a lane closed sign and pushing into an orderly
queue
Dear God please no.
+1 Curryfart?
its a bit like the Rocade de Bordeaux. (insert french city of choice) if i maintained the required distance of 50m I might as well stay parjed coz i would’nt move lol
Roadtoad:
Thanks all for the feedback. I heard somewhere about the travelling too close rule hence my post. Quite honestly I am an avid searcher of clear road. Its not easy to do this all the time but if you watch for it , it can be done. I have found that traffic tends to come in clusters and that between each cluster there can be no traffic at all. As we are all on limiters it is sometimes difficult to speed up to get ahead if you see clear road in front. But if i see it in the mirrors I frequently back off before re-engaging the cruise. Am I the only driver that does this ? Because if you’ve never tried this it makes a world of difference to your driving experience. It costs seconds in time to implement but once performed you give yourself a much clearer view of the road ahead and your drive will become more relaxed thus you will get to your destination less fatigued. The mentality of some drivers to pass you at all costs beggars belief. The number of times I am part passed by a full load at the bottom of a hill amazes me. No thought goes into the terrain these days. Not many of us are paid any more for getting there quicker, quite the reverse in fact. So why make life difficult and pay for it as well.
snap mate> i am on nights and get fed up and stressed out by all the ‘must get ahead’ type elephant race overtaking, -our units are limited relatively high up, in the90- 91kmh area(still not enough to get swiftly and cleanly past on yer average overtake)…BUT… if i run the 2.5 hr section of our trunk at 83-85kmh only for the busy bits when there are loads of other wagons i end up stress free and get out the other end without having lost more than a couple of minutes on that section -bear in mind ,if you can train yself to calm down and slow down in the busy bits>let em all roar past< not only do you have an easy run, but if you do approach the rear of, and find yself gaining on, summat at your 83kmh voluntary speed,then you can overtake by having the use of that amazing old fashioned concept of increasing speed by ‘putting yer foot down’…its a forgotten buzz that us oldtimers used to get…puts a smile on my boatrace anyway! lets all learn to embrace the limiter and ‘get there when ya getr there’>>> tk care lads cheers dave (putting tin hat on)
ROG:
I think you will find that - ignoring a closed lane sign and pushing in - refers to those who hammer down the other lane and then try to force their way in - I wonder how many of us would like to see those drivers get an instant FPN - I know I would
Whats the difference between hammering down another lane and forcing your way in and using all the available carriageway and merging where you have to ?
alte hase wrote:
ï‚· Ignoring a lane closed sign and pushing into an orderly
queue
Typical of brits who love to queue up for stuff to opt to join the back of a long line when the other lane is empty.
I would have thought it obvious the reason theres a ‘que’ is because of those charging down a dead end lane and forcing their way in bringing the traffic to the standstill, your tactic isn’t the cure, its the illness
If you allow people to merge there should be less hold ups. Do you try your damndest to stop people merging, or half block the other lane a mile back to stop people using it? if so, you may be part of the problem.
ROG:
I think you will find that - ignoring a closed lane sign and pushing in - refers to those who hammer down the other lane and then try to force their way in - I wonder how many of us would like to see those drivers get an instant FPN - I know I would
Whats the difference between hammering down another lane and forcing your way in and using all the available carriageway and merging where you have to ?
Cruising by others, then asking to merge in and then waiting for a gap is very different from the blast down and force in senario
Roadtoad:
Lads, seeing as it is now an instant fine if the cops see you travelling too close, give me some room before you pull in in front of me after overtaking, there are no medals for pulling in too quick but I will be the one who gets the fine because you were showing off pulling in so close you scrapped the bugs of my bumper
Have to agree with you. This Numpty passed me just before J10, M1 northbound last night.
Roadtoad:
The mentality of some drivers to pass you at all costs beggars belief. The number of times I am part passed by a full load at the bottom of a hill amazes me. No thought goes into the terrain these days.
Cant speak for everyone else but i can shed some light on this. My truck usually runs at maximum weight and i try to keep as much momentum as i can when approaching hills, sometimes as im approaching a hill if im gaining significantly on a slower truck i’ll start to ‘overtake’, even though i know i wont be able to pass, its just so i can keep the momentum going. Might appear pointless but slowing to match the speed of the other truck can make a huge difference.
That makes a lot of sense to me and has answered something I have often wondered myself.
I wont think badly of the next driver that does this to me any more
I often sit just under my limiter so I have a little extra if I need it , caravans and 50MPH car drivers trying to save fuel etc, but I agree that backing off and lettting faster trucks go adds to a more relaxed drive and a safer journey as well
blueroom1:
I agree that backing off and lettting faster trucks go adds to a more relaxed drive and a safer journey as well
I agree but you say it as if it’s some kind of revelation , me and a few more drivers on here are old enough to remember that this and other aspects of mutual courtesy among truck drivers, ie letting out, letting in, backing off, giving way etc etc and so on… was the absolute norm shocking to some of you on here I imagine , but nevertheless true!!!.. and believe me it wasn’t THAT long ago! A lot of todays " drivers" aka licence holders, or dicks with a licence, have their heads so far up their own arses that they won’t give an inch, like the superstar last week complaining about the guy who gave him the finger after he refused to let him out after nearly putting him up the arse of the motor in front, and HE wanted to knock 6shades out of HIM , we are all in the same crap job and if we end up hating each other, along with all the other road users that hate us where will that improve things ffs, bring on all the old ■■■■/rosy glasses cracks if you like, but it IS true what I have said…end of. Rant over off for a pint to watch the Newcastle match…farewell!
Unread postby Darb » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:22 pm
So we have a 20 mile que in the open lane whilst the other two lanes are clear for 19 miles
Just merge in turn and keep it flowing
The ‘‘FLOW RATE’’ through a ‘chicane’ is NOT increased by placing more pressure onto it , like you didn’t know?
Your attempt to claim yourselves as the ‘‘saints’’ that restore or maintain the traffic flow are to stupid for words,you are the clots that stop the blood flow.
Now I wonder how many times you have tried your ‘‘saintly’’ que jumping activities at a supermarket checkout, in the flesh, not hiding in some impersonable ‘‘metal box’’, insulated and detached from your actions.
I’ve let thousands of your brigade ‘‘merge’’, and for my efforts I’ve had air horns blasting from behind, lights flashing and verbal abuse for letting them in, from other truckers behind me,now I wonder whats got them steamed up?.
I do it becuse its easier than filling in reports, not because I approve ,knowing that others will ‘‘cave in’’ is your ‘‘passport’’ to continue employing this stunt driving, I’m watching driving behaviour if exhibited on a driving test it would be an automatic FAIL.
Wether you like it or not, you are required to give way to overtaking vehicles. The ones trying to merge are the overtaking vehicles… simple really. Either let them in or don’t, but don’t let them in begrudgingly at the last moment and then whinge about it!
BTW the automatic fail would be refusing to yield to overtaking vehicles and forcing them tosnonstop, or crash.
ï‚· Ignoring a lane closed sign and pushing into an orderly
queueï‚· Lane discipline such as remaining in lane two or three when lane one is empty and there is no other vehicle to overtake
first one, it’s already in the highway code and I’ve had my class one 23 years, hands up the last time you read one! ( had a guy on DCPC last week, last time was forty years ago for him, and he was proud of it which as a " professional " if you think about it he wouldnt know any RULE changes would he? Its been updated in 2007 iirc and there’s 28 NEW rules since then! As PROFESSIONALS we don’t know it all, but at the bottleneck even PROFESSIONALS are still sat out there that’s why old timers block three lanes off with two artics because halfwits can’t read road signs!
Two, as we drive on the LEFT IN THIS COUNTRY, overtake and move in! it’s not hard, but the me first brigade, ie; night trunkers who can’t queue because they’re in a rush ( and can’t drive, that’s why they’re on nights because there’s nowt about ) they cause all the queueing at the bottleneck as they’re selfish ■■■■ for brains!
Oocha, there’s some back biting going on here. Thanks DieselDemon for sharing this link “Have to agree with you. This Numpty passed me just before J10, M1 northbound last night.”
Because this just epitomises the point I was making that’s just sheer bad driving no excuses, all that open road in front and he cuts you up like a cucumber.
I’m not on here to preach to anybody and in fact I suspect that any driver on here is a professional and courteous driver to other road users. I took my class 1 in Bradford in 1983 and I still remember the words of my instructor who said although we dont have a certificate for being an advanced motorist, by virtue of having passed an LGV test, we are. Perhaps we should consider ourselves Road Pilots instead of truck drivers it certainly sounds better and indeed there are quite a few ex pilots myself included on the road driving trucks. Reading through some of the posts there seems to be a difference of opinion regarding lane etiquette which is off my original posting but here is my opinion on it.
Nobody should be pushing in from any lane as a pro I always wait until I am let in. We all find ourselves in the wrong lane from time to time for example you’re on a dual carriageway and up ahead there are some roadworks closing off lane 1, you are being overtaken simultaneously so you cant move straight out. There is a slight bend in the road and you cant see the situation until you get around it then as the situation unfolds you realise that your lane is clear right up to the cones but traffic in lane 2 is now backing up. Now I could go right up to the cones and I know somebody would let me in but technically I would be undertaking would I not and the reason traffic in lane two is backing up is because drivers in Lane 1 have done just that . So I match my speed to the truck that’s just passed me and wait until he lets me in I’m not blocking the lane as were still moving, Im not undertaking and Im not as some may say queue controlling even though there may be a lot of vehicles behind me. Then as lane two starts to move quicker the other truck driver realises Ive helped him on his way and he flashes his lights and lets me in. As I say the vast majority on here know exactly what Im talking about but if just one novice reads this and becomes enlightened then Ive not wasted the last half hour of my time writing this piece.
Unread postby Darb » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:22 pm
So we have a 20 mile que in the open lane whilst the other two lanes are clear for 19 miles
Just merge in turn and keep it flowing
The ‘‘FLOW RATE’’ through a ‘chicane’ is NOT increased by placing more pressure onto it , like you didn’t know?
Your attempt to claim yourselves as the ‘‘saints’’ that restore or maintain the traffic flow are to stupid for words,you are the clots that stop the blood flow.
Now I wonder how many times you have tried your ‘‘saintly’’ que jumping activities at a supermarket checkout, in the flesh, not hiding in some impersonable ‘‘metal box’’, insulated and detached from your actions.
I’ve let thousands of your brigade ‘‘merge’’, and for my efforts I’ve had air horns blasting from behind, lights flashing and verbal abuse for letting them in, from other truckers behind me,now I wonder whats got them steamed up?.
I do it becuse its easier than filling in reports, not because I approve ,knowing that others will ‘‘cave in’’ is your ‘‘passport’’ to continue employing this stunt driving, I’m watching driving behaviour if exhibited on a driving test it would be an automatic FAIL.
Where did I say I was the one merging ■■ I just have no problem letting someone merge properly !
P.S. when you are calling someone stupid be sure to check your spelling, it should be “too” and not “to” FAIL
shocking to some of you on here I imagine , but nevertheless true!!!.. and believe me it wasn’t THAT long ago! A lot of todays " drivers" aka licence holders, or dicks with a licence, have their heads so far up their own arses that they won’t give an inch, like the superstar last week complaining about the guy who gave him the finger after he refused to let him out 
it’s not hard, but the me first brigade, ie; night trunkers who can’t queue because they’re in a rush ( and can’t drive, that’s why they’re on nights because there’s nowt about ) they cause all the queueing at the bottleneck as they’re selfish ■■■■ for brains! 