Bluey Circles:
Is it correct what I have been told that the latest generation of tachos are GPS enabled and will be pinging for all speeding infringements, enter a 30 doing 32 and ping, highlighted on you card for ever and a day.
You’re correct, they are GPS enabled. Their purpose is to locate your start time, several points during the course of your day, and locate your finish . As yet there is no mention of them catching you for speeding nor recording your movements apart from what i just said.
axletramp:
it was well off the clock and I guesstimated at least 85mph.
Any where near that sort of speed your just asking for a tyre to blow as it heats up from the constant extra speed, then your in the brown stuff.
Plenty of us were cruising at 70 + in the old days with no limiters and 32 ton gross. Nowhere near as many berks to get in yer way.
No more tyre blowouts then than now either.
axletramp:
it was well off the clock and I guesstimated at least 85mph.
Any where near that sort of speed your just asking for a tyre to blow as it heats up from the constant extra speed, then your in the brown stuff.
No more tyre blowouts then than now either.
Maybe not but if you ask anybody in the know about the main causes of tyre blow outs ONE of them is prolonged high speed where the tyre over heats & exploits any weakness in the tyre
Me Renault is very coast friendly so gravity assisted 60 - 63mph is common with the odd mad 66 if feeling brave.
Yes 60 is the limit but sometimes she just wants to go.
One must consider the risks and be confident in tyre condition, but this is standard stuff.
Back in the day cruising at 60 to 65 was the norm, in fact once we started to undertake cars doing 75+ then it was time to back off a bit.
I believe the physics of pulling at 60+ and being pushed at the same speed are totally different so one should pay close attention to how she feels, minor corrections when coasting are sometimes necessary but always be prepared to brake slightly to reduce the push if you start to pucker up.
Exhaust brakes are OK on minor gradients but should be avoided on steeper ones in relation to coasting only as the unit will fight the trailer and it won’t win.
Normal rules of controlled hill descents are not the same as coasting at high speed due to you basically operating beyond the limits of your speed limiter.
Not much to be gained from it accept a sweet adrenaline rush and a flashback to how fast we used to cruise all the time.
Respect the speed, know the limitations of your load stability, road conditions and all the other boring stuff.
Stay safe out there, going fast is easy stopping is the hard bit.
This post is aimed at class one artic drivers not class ■■■ van drivers…
war1974:
wont the overspeed still flash up if you run on to 60 on a motorway?
which seems stupid as your not speeding.
no but you are exceeding the speed the truck is limited too . the french have a lovely habit of checking for overspeed and fining heavily if exceeded 100kmh . iv also been done on an analog card for hitting 100k comming down wrotham hill in the morning and fined in france in the afternoon for the morning speed in the uk
French can be paid off easy enough or they used to be able to.
think its a joke 20-30 seconds at 60 mph and its in the office for a chat sign this etc. actually its amazing how the technology and safety features have increased ten fold over the years but the speed is reduced.
DVSA are only interested in over speed if it seems this would indicate the speed limiter is not working. This means an over speed longer than 10 minutes or more than 10kph over or over the actual speed limit - I.e 60mph on a motorway etc
However- have a read of the Senior Traffic Commissioners Statutory Document No 6 and check what is says about speed limiters and speeding. Interesting read.
As has been said the new GPS enabled Tachos only use the GPS to record location at various times - although a driver did say his warns him he is speeding in a 30 or 40 etc. although that sounds a possibility I haven’t seen it and know it wouldn’t be something it would record as the regulations don’t require it.
On our Mercs. Axors and Actros’, when the digital speed on the dash shows 56mph, the speed on the tacho can be anything from 89 to 91 kmh.
Therefore you can be doing 56 mph but if the tacho is showing 91 kmh, that is speeding!
Try keeping it to 90? Yeah OK!
What about if you are truly speeding (i.e. above 60mph which obviously can be achieved on occasion) but for less than a minute? Is that recorded anywhere? Just asking.
I’ve done 70 odd down Windy Hill in England before. Over here my trucks have all been limited to 65mph and 75-80mph down hill is nothing. Fastest I’ve been down hill is 93mph in Nova Scotia. Company never questioned it, though it surely appeared on their satelite tracking. First firm I worked for here once questioned “Why were you recorded going 79mph?”…to which the response “Because I couldn’t quite reach 80” was met with a smirk and nothing was ever said again.
These days I generally keep it to 70-75 on a hill. In hindsight, doing 93 (aiming for 100) was a bit reckless and I won’t be repeating it a second time. Though North American trucks do handle far far better at high speeds than short wheel base European trucks. Its quite normal for trucks here to be ungoverned and do 80+mph on the flat under their own steam and in some places in the US its even legal for them to do so.
bestbooties:
On our Mercs. Axors and Actros’, when the digital speed on the dash shows 56mph, the speed on the tacho can be anything from 89 to 91 kmh.
Therefore you can be doing 56 mph but if the tacho is showing 91 kmh, that is speeding!
Try keeping it to 90? Yeah OK!
On my Merc’ Actros, the speed display on my dash shows exactly the same speed as my tacho, both in kmh.
As 1mph has a larger range than 1 kmh, 89(.something) to 91kmh are both almost certainly within the range of 56.0 to 56.9 mph on the digital display. As neither show any decimal fractions, only the whole numbers, 89 to 91 is still 56.
91 kmh is not speeding. Speeding is going faster than the speed limit. As the speed limit is 60 (on duals and motorways) anything less than that is not speeding.
My dash displays also click over the minutes at exactly the same time as my tacho does, as far as I can tell.
Snudger:
What about if you are truly speeding (i.e. above 60mph which obviously can be achieved on occasion) but for less than a minute? Is that recorded anywhere? Just asking.
Digital tachos record a speed trace which can be brought up with the correct software, but the speed record is only kept for 24 hours is what I’ve been led to believe. After that, unless you get an overspeed, there’s no record.
The German BAG read my card in their computer in a road side check. I saw the speed trace, which went over 90kmh a few times but all for just less than a minute. No overspeeds, so they weren’t interested. The limit in Germany is 80. I’ve been told that they’ll let us off with 90 unless you’re carrying ADR. My experiences seem to match with that.
