Got a load, not allowed out of cab h and s, doors shut of I go gets down the road a bit, some think wrong hear , goes open doors and theres the reason.8000kg sat on the back
Who shut the doors you or them? I’d take it back and drop it on the h&S guy’s foot.
Definitely over on the back.
BTW, it’s Over Weight not whait.
Geoffo:
Definitely over on the back.BTW, it’s Over Weight not whait.
Also it is “here” not hear 
8 tons inside a container? Not very heavy for an artic, is it?
Someone was on foot to close the doors weren`t they? H&S applies to you as it does to them, so there is your opportunity to check your load.
And although nothing may have happened this time, if you suspect a load has got loose on the road, be very careful about opening the doors!
They shut the doors and put the seal on.that was a 45’foot container. fanks for the spelling leason
How was it secured in the container, just asking, because when it moves it’s your problem not the muppets who just shoved it in the back doors 
Can someone explain what i am looking at? Yes,there is always one…
Franglais:
8 tons inside a container? Not very heavy for an artic, is it?
It is if its all at the back end. I got called out to help a guy who had a tilt trailer they’d collected loaded like that, in this instance it was a massive sod off church bell loaded right at the back of the trailer as part of a multidrop load. He’d got as far as Sheffield and decided he couldn’t go any further with it because of how it was handling and transport reckoned it was because he had a 4x2 unit so as I had a 6x2 I was sent to take over the load.
When I arrived and looked at everything all the bolts on the fifth wheel had stretched and the fifth wheel was actually an inch or so above the chassis it should have been sat on. I phoned the office, told them I was refusing to take it because if it had done that to his it would to mine and it certainly didn’t want to go anywhere else.
Anyway he goes and pulls his suzies to drop the trailer and as soon as he pulls the red airline the front end of the trailer flies up into the air, only stopping going up when the rear bumper bar hits the road. They ended up having to get a crane out to move the bell further up the trailer in the end.
ive never done containers.
but say you pick a container up its all padlocked sealed as mentioned cant open it for various reason
then surley the onus is on the point of loading.
if you get stopped or the load as moved become damaged then surley you cant be blamed ?
as your unable to check it then surley they should load it accoridng to rha \vosa \ what ever standards are required and the blame stops with them
Conor:
Anyway he goes and pulls his suzies to drop the trailer and as soon as he pulls the red airline the front end of the trailer flies up into the air, only stopping going up when the rear bumper bar hits the road. They ended up having to get a crane out to move the bell further up the trailer in the end.
How did that happen then? Did he pull the pin before doing the lines, or did the 5th wheel fail ?
In either case something must have moved during the journey or it would be impossible to hook up to.
Conor:
Franglais:
8 tons inside a container? Not very heavy for an artic, is it?It is if its all at the back end. I got called out to help a guy who had a tilt trailer they’d collected loaded like that, in this instance it was a massive sod off church bell loaded right at the back of the trailer as part of a multidrop load. He’d got as far as Sheffield and decided he couldn’t go any further with it because of how it was handling and transport reckoned it was because he had a 4x2 unit so as I had a 6x2 I was sent to take over the load.
When I arrived and looked at everything all the bolts on the fifth wheel had stretched and the fifth wheel was actually an inch or so above the chassis it should have been sat on. I phoned the office, told them I was refusing to take it because if it had done that to his it would to mine and it certainly didn’t want to go anywhere else.
Anyway he goes and pulls his suzies to drop the trailer and as soon as he pulls the red airline the front end of the trailer flies up into the air, only stopping going up when the rear bumper bar hits the road. They ended up having to get a crane out to move the bell further up the trailer in the end.
I agree about weight distribution, but the thread title is
‘over whait’ (over weight)
and the OP states it’s an 8 ton load.
Hold on here…
They load the lorry then say that you’re not allowed out of the cab?
Sorry mate, but I don’t care if you’re loading a flat, a curtain, a container or anything: My lorry (my lorry!) doesn’t move until I have checked and, as necessary, secured the load… and you can shove this H & S ‘You’re not allowed out of the cab’ bull where the sun doesn’t shine!
My lorry.
My responsibility.
My licence.
Don’t like it? Take the stuff back off and ZB off!
isaac hunt:
How did that happen then? Did he pull the pin before doing the lines, or did the 5th wheel fail ?In either case something must have moved during the journey or it would be impossible to hook up to.
Fifth wheel finally gave up the will to live, once the red line was pulled there wasn’t enough air to give the trailer suspension a fighting chance. Originally it had stuff further up the trailer but because he’d been given the notes in reverse order he tipped it in that order. You’d have thought after getting to the first drop and opening the trailer and seeing what was where you’d have done things a bit differently but sadly there’s a lot in this job who don’t think.
Win-Stone:
Hold on here…They load the lorry then say that you’re not allowed out of the cab?
Sorry mate, but I don’t care if you’re loading a flat, a curtain, a container or anything: My lorry (my lorry!) doesn’t move until I have checked and, as necessary, secured the load… and you can shove this H & S ‘You’re not allowed out of the cab’ bull where the sun doesn’t shine!
My lorry.it nothing new with containers to not know what’s in the back,
My responsibility.
My licence.
Don’t like it? Take the stuff back off and ZB off!
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it nothing new with containers to not know what’s in the back, it’s not the drivers problem, until there is a problem like I said in the post
Franglais:
Conor:
Franglais:
8 tons inside a container? Not very heavy for an artic, is it?It is if its all at the back end. I got called out to help a guy who had a tilt trailer they’d collected loaded like that, in this instance it was a massive sod off church bell loaded right at the back of the trailer as part of a multidrop load. He’d got as far as Sheffield and decided he couldn’t go any further with it because of how it was handling and transport reckoned it was because he had a 4x2 unit so as I had a 6x2 I was sent to take over the load.
When I arrived and looked at everything all the bolts on the fifth wheel had stretched and the fifth wheel was actually an inch or so above the chassis it should have been sat on. I phoned the office, told them I was refusing to take it because if it had done that to his it would to mine and it certainly didn’t want to go anywhere else.
Anyway he goes and pulls his suzies to drop the trailer and as soon as he pulls the red airline the front end of the trailer flies up into the air, only stopping going up when the rear bumper bar hits the road. They ended up having to get a crane out to move the bell further up the trailer in the end.
I agree about weight distribution, but the thread title is
‘over whait’ (over weight)
and the OP states it’s an 8 ton load.
no the crane sleuw was 8000kg on the ■■■ end of a 45’ container,not over axle there was jib in front of it, by the way I’ll spell whait any way I like you are not my mentor
malcolmgbell:
Franglais:
Conor:
Franglais:
8 tons inside a container? Not very heavy for an artic, is it?It is if its all at the back end. I got called out to help a guy who had a tilt trailer they’d collected loaded like that, in this instance it was a massive sod off church bell loaded right at the back of the trailer as part of a multidrop load. He’d got as far as Sheffield and decided he couldn’t go any further with it because of how it was handling and transport reckoned it was because he had a 4x2 unit so as I had a 6x2 I was sent to take over the load.
When I arrived and looked at everything all the bolts on the fifth wheel had stretched and the fifth wheel was actually an inch or so above the chassis it should have been sat on. I phoned the office, told them I was refusing to take it because if it had done that to his it would to mine and it certainly didn’t want to go anywhere else.
Anyway he goes and pulls his suzies to drop the trailer and as soon as he pulls the red airline the front end of the trailer flies up into the air, only stopping going up when the rear bumper bar hits the road. They ended up having to get a crane out to move the bell further up the trailer in the end.
I agree about weight distribution, but the thread title is
‘over whait’ (over weight)
and the OP states it’s an 8 ton load.no the crane sleuw was 8000kg on the ■■■ end of a 45’ container,not over axle there was jib in front of it, by the way I’ll spell whait any way I like you are not my mentor
Read my posts please.
I have not critised your spelling.
And I only repeated what you had told us about weights.
Win-Stone:
Hold on here…They load the lorry then say that you’re not allowed out of the cab?
Sorry mate, but I don’t care if you’re loading a flat, a curtain, a container or anything: My lorry (my lorry!) doesn’t move until I have checked and, as necessary, secured the load… and you can shove this H & S ‘You’re not allowed out of the cab’ bull where the sun doesn’t shine!
My lorry.
My responsibility.
My licence.
Don’t like it? Take the stuff back off and ZB off!
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Too true.
I had a stand up row with one of the managers at Tesco Snodland about this. I coupled up to a sealed trailer and felt the load ( cages) move when I pulled forward.I had politely asked the shunter to open the trailer for this reason, but he had been told not to. The ‘Manager’ claimed even if the cages were loose the shutter would stop them coming out! .After half an hour they opened the shutter and had to take half the load off, put it back on again properly and then resecure it.
Allied Bakeries sent me to collect various machinery from a redundant bakery in a hired Tautliner. The manager at this site insisted I load a large wheeled skip, I had no means of securing it so I did as he said, dropped the trailer where it was and returned solo.