Outside transport manager

Hello there ,I’m looking for a transport manager I have a 7.5 tonne truck with hiab, can anyone help out there :bulb:

You have to make sure whoever you appoint has ‘continuous and effective control of the road transport operation’ or you and he will both find yourself in trouble.

The traffic commissioners are now making it clear that someone who calls in once a month to ‘shuffle tacho cards and have a cup of coffee’(their phrase, not mine) won’t be accepted as a transport manager.

Long term, your best bet is probably to get the CPC (not DCPC) qualification yourself, or get a family member or business associate to do it.

It might help if the OP said where he was located, but I agree with GasGas that it would be far better for him to get the CPC himself, an external TM will cost over £220 a month, anyone charging less is considered not to be doing the job properly.

Are you sure you even NEED a TM? If you are only running a restricted O license with 1 or 2 trucks on it…

You would need to give a lot more details for someone to be able to help you.

F-reds

F-reds:
Are you sure you even NEED a TM? If you are only running a restricted O license with 1 or 2 trucks on it…

He’ll need an O licence (and a TM) if he is operating for hire and reward.

Yes but my point is does need to be an outside TM with a CPC? If the OP is a driver of the said 7.5t HIAB, and presumably is the owner of the vehicle/business, so must be switched on. Then I would also assume he could easily meet the paltry requirements for a restricted O license on his own with a bit of research.

Mind you, I know what they say about ■■■-u-me…

F-reds:
Yes but my point is does need to be an outside TM with a CPC? If the OP is a driver of the said 7.5t HIAB, and presumably is the owner of the vehicle/business, so must be switched on. Then I would also assume he could easily meet the paltry requirements for a restricted O license on his own with a bit of research.

Mind you, I know what they say about ■■■-u-me…

I hardly think he would be looking for a TM if he is running on a restricted O licence. I act as an external TM for an operator with a 7.5 ton mini skip lorry. Switched on or not, it does take time to study and pass the CPC.

F-reds:
Yes but my point is does need to be an outside TM with a CPC? If the OP is a driver of the said 7.5t HIAB, and presumably is the owner of the vehicle/business, so must be switched on. Then I would also assume he could easily meet the paltry requirements for a restricted O license on his own with a bit of research.

He can’t have a restricted licence if he does work for other people for profit if his truck has a MGW greater than 3.5 tonnes.

Yes I know Harry, that’s why I said the OP needs to give more information. He certainly hasn’t said he is doing work for other people. In my mind I can’t see 7.5t HIAB earning you much, unless it was own account operations, which is why I was asking.

Guys this operator is based in Blackpool. I have come off his licence due to relocating further south. He has a national licence. Good guy just unfortunate that I had to move.

Please keep your negative comments to yourselves and lets find this guy a new TM.

Cheers.

Spam-Javelin:
Guys this operator is based in Blackpool. I have come off his licence due to relocating further south. He has a national licence. Good guy just unfortunate that I had to move.

Please keep your negative comments to yourselves and lets find this guy a new TM.

Cheers.

What negative comments ? As the op didn’t give too much info in his post it’s just people speculating on what he may or may not need .

F-reds:
Yes I know Harry, that’s why I said the OP needs to give more information. He certainly hasn’t said he is doing work for other people. In my mind I can’t see 7.5t HIAB earning you much, unless it was own account operations, which is why I was asking.

Spam-Javelin:
Please keep your negative comments to yourselves and lets find this guy a new TM.

chester1:
What negative comments ?

Spam-Javelin:

F-reds:
In my mind I can’t see 7.5t HIAB earning you much

:laughing:

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Which is why I asked…

At least use the whole quote. It’s called context. If it was mis construed I apologise.

Personally I’d advise him to take the 6 months allowed to find another tm an take the cpc himself as it’s getting harder and harder to get vosa to accept out side tm’s. I was on two licences both 12 miles either side of where I live when asked how I divide my time between the two. I allowed 1 hour to get between the two firm 24 miles apart and they came back and said it was not enough time to get between the two an have a meal break

chester1:
Personally I’d advise him to take the 6 months allowed to find another tm an take the cpc himself as it’s getting harder and harder to get vosa to accept out side tm’s. I was on two licences both 12 miles either side of where I live when asked how I divide my time between the two. I allowed 1 hour to get between the two firm 24 miles apart and they came back and said it was not enough time to get between the two an have a meal break

And you accepted their objection?

Spam-Javelin:

chester1:
Personally I’d advise him to take the 6 months allowed to find another tm an take the cpc himself as it’s getting harder and harder to get vosa to accept out side tm’s. I was on two licences both 12 miles either side of where I live when asked how I divide my time between the two. I allowed 1 hour to get between the two firm 24 miles apart and they came back and said it was not enough time to get between the two an have a meal break

And you accepted their objection?

No just gave myself an extra 30 mins to travel .because I still drive “part time” I had to account for daily and weekly rest periods

+1 i would certainly object, i would tell Beverly Bell where to go :laughing: seriously, i could help anyone out if the distance wasnt too far, i have both National and International cpc so could act on their behalf, but unfortunately i am down south in kent , and that is deemed too far by vosa standards.
Two other points, one poster said take the 6 months grace until he has taken the cpc himself, since when can you have 6 months without a TM.
2. If he has a national cpc, does he in fact want International, or is it because he isnt the dedicated T/M

truckyboy:
+1 i would certainly object, i would tell Beverly Bell where to go :laughing: seriously, i could help anyone out if the distance wasnt too far, i have both National and International cpc so could act on their behalf, but unfortunately i am down south in kent , and that is deemed too far by vosa standards.
Two other points, one poster said take the 6 months grace until he has taken the cpc himself, since when can you have 6 months without a TM.
2. If he has a national cpc, does he in fact want International, or is it because he isnt the dedicated T/M

He has a national operators licence but no TM.

truckyboy:
Two other points, one poster said take the 6 months grace until he has taken the cpc himself, since when can you have 6 months without a TM.

You can run for up to 18 months without a TM at the TC’s discreton.

12.6 Changes in Professional Personnel.

If the professionally competent person specified on a standard O licence leaves or can no longer carry out his duties due to physical disability or mental disorder, then the Traffic Commissioner must be informed, via the CLO using form GV80A. The Traffic Commissioner need not revoke the licence and may allow a reasonable period of time for the operator to find a replacement person who is professionally competent. The maximum time which may be allowed by the Traffic Commissioner is 18 months.