On route from Scunthorpe to Isle of Sheppey today with another load of chicken for the RDC’S it struck me how many other regular road users weren’t about.
No Car Transporters worrying the life out of me as I follow them under motorway bridges (it never looks like the last car going to clear them)
No Megabus’s with Dara Obrians face smiling benignly at me as they fly by.
And very few of Eddie Stobarts finest.
Who are you missing?
I have just driven into Hull and seen very few white van men, even fewer cars and lots of lorries with perfect lane discipline. I saw one accident with a car and HGV, caused by the car sitting in a blindspot instead of getting the zb out of the way. There were 3 plod when I came back, the lorry had gone, the car was a wreck and two plod were sweeping the rest of it up. No ambulances were called during the making of this scenario.
car sitting in a blindspot instead of getting the zb out of the way.
Really? What blindspot was that? 
jakethesnake:
car sitting in a blindspot instead of getting the zb out of the way.
Really? What blindspot was that? [emoji38]
The one behind the phone screen
Have noticed driving standards of what cars are about is getting worse.
Am seeing more n more cars vans just approaching junctions roundabouts and pulling out not .giving way.
Or.cars jumping red lights because not.much traffic around
People are getting use to less traffic so are taking more of a chance now.im finding
edd1974:
Have noticed driving standards of what cars are about is getting worse.
Am seeing more n more cars vans just approaching junctions roundabouts and pulling out not .giving way.
Or.cars jumping red lights because not.much traffic around
People are getting use to less traffic so are taking more of a chance now.im finding
Still jumping red lights due to traffic not being on roads. White van man here so if you do see me give me a toot in your big lorry please. Lets all keep the country supplied with goods.
Beep beep keep on trucking for £9ph
Normal4Norfolk:
On route from Scunthorpe to Isle of Sheppey today with another load of chicken for the RDC’S it struck me how many other regular road users weren’t about.
No Car Transporters worrying the life out of me as I follow them under motorway bridges (it never looks like the last car going to clear them)
No Megabus’s with Dara Obrians face smiling benignly at me as they fly by.
And very few of Eddie Stobarts finest.
Who are you missing?
Was that from 2 sisters? 
I’m back in Saturday delivering chicken .
Box jockeys. Definitely box jockeys.
Gillberry:
Normal4Norfolk:
On route from Scunthorpe to Isle of Sheppey today with another load of chicken for the RDC’S it struck me how many other regular road users weren’t about.
No Car Transporters worrying the life out of me as I follow them under motorway bridges (it never looks like the last car going to clear them)
No Megabus’s with Dara Obrians face smiling benignly at me as they fly by.
And very few of Eddie Stobarts finest.
Who are you missing?
Was that from 2 sisters? 
I’m back in Saturday delivering chicken .
Yes, I’m on Monday to Fridays out of Eye.
Normal4Norfolk:
Gillberry:
Normal4Norfolk:
On route from Scunthorpe to Isle of Sheppey today with another load of chicken for the RDC’S it struck me how many other regular road users weren’t about.
No Car Transporters worrying the life out of me as I follow them under motorway bridges (it never looks like the last car going to clear them)
No Megabus’s with Dara Obrians face smiling benignly at me as they fly by.
And very few of Eddie Stobarts finest.
Who are you missing?
Was that from 2 sisters? 
I’m back in Saturday delivering chicken .
Yes, I’m on Monday to Fridays out of Eye.
I’m 4on4off Flixton which is why back in Saturday.
Franglais:
jakethesnake:
car sitting in a blindspot instead of getting the zb out of the way.
Really? What blindspot was that? [emoji38]
The one behind the phone screen
I actually watched this one building and I was willing the car to get a bloody move on, there was a tractor pulling a trailer in the nearside lane, the lorries were indicating and pulling out. I noticed this little red car almost cuddling the front wheel of an artic, the artic indicated, presumably checked his mirrors and moved over, the next thing there was a cloud of red dust appeared as the car disintegrated.
I saw a Sitra vehicle with big chevrons stuck to the passenger door and step, think it should be used more.
Wheel Nut:
Franglais:
jakethesnake:
car sitting in a blindspot instead of getting the zb out of the way.
Really? What blindspot was that? [emoji38]
The one behind the phone screen
I actually watched this one building and I was willing the car to get a bloody move on, there was a tractor pulling a trailer in the nearside lane, the lorries were indicating and pulling out. I noticed this little red car almost cuddling the front wheel of an artic, the artic indicated, presumably checked his mirrors and moved over, the next thing there was a cloud of red dust appeared as the car disintegrated.
I saw a Sitra vehicle with big chevrons stuck to the passenger door and step, think it should be used more.
I am glad you explained the situation but in reality any decent driver would have known that car was there and not moved over. Severe lack of observation and awareness from the lorry driver and although the unaware car driver was not getting a move on the car driver can’t be blamed. Blind spot being used as an excuse for bad driving once more.
Wheel Nut:
I have just driven into Hull and seen very few white van men, even fewer cars and lots of lorries with perfect lane discipline. I saw one accident with a car and HGV, caused by the car sitting in a blindspot instead of getting the zb out of the way. There were 3 plod when I came back, the lorry had gone, the car was a wreck and two plod were sweeping the rest of it up. No ambulances were called during the making of this scenario.
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seeing as you are the only one who saw it and obviously isnt on a 1 man crusade to post about poor truck driving standards at every ■■■■ ing opperchancity,then would it have been reasonable to assume that the car was just in the trucks blindspot without having the intuition not to be there,or was in this instance the truck driver having a momentary lapse of concentration and awareness ( that every single truck driver has had at some point), that meant he creamed the car?
dieseldog999:
Wheel Nut:
I have just driven into Hull and seen very few white van men, even fewer cars and lots of lorries with perfect lane discipline. I saw one accident with a car and HGV, caused by the car sitting in a blindspot instead of getting the zb out of the way. There were 3 plod when I came back, the lorry had gone, the car was a wreck and two plod were sweeping the rest of it up. No ambulances were called during the making of this scenario.
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seeing as you are the only one who saw it and obviously isnt on a 1 man crusade to post about poor truck driving standards at every [zb] ing opperchancity,then would it have been reasonable to assume that the car was just in the trucks blindspot without having the intuition not to be there,or was in this instance the truck driver having a momentary lapse of concentration and awareness ( that every single truck driver has had at some point), that meant he creamed the car?
I was on the opposite dual carriageway driving towards it. I couldn’t have stopped safely if I had wanted to. I didn’t want to as I was on my way to the cash and carry for more alcohol. When I came back there was just a car and a bloke sat looking at it, two plod sweeping, and one protecting them with his blue lights and notepad.
Wheel Nut:
dieseldog999:
Wheel Nut:
I have just driven into Hull and seen very few white van men, even fewer cars and lots of lorries with perfect lane discipline. I saw one accident with a car and HGV, caused by the car sitting in a blindspot instead of getting the zb out of the way. There were 3 plod when I came back, the lorry had gone, the car was a wreck and two plod were sweeping the rest of it up. No ambulances were called during the making of this scenario.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
seeing as you are the only one who saw it and obviously isnt on a 1 man crusade to post about poor truck driving standards at every [zb] ing opperchancity,then would it have been reasonable to assume that the car was just in the trucks blindspot without having the intuition not to be there,or was in this instance the truck driver having a momentary lapse of concentration and awareness ( that every single truck driver has had at some point), that meant he creamed the car?
I was on the opposite dual carriageway driving towards it. I couldn’t have stopped safely if I had wanted to. I didn’t want to as I was on my way to the cash and carry for more alcohol. When I came back there was just a car and a bloke sat looking at it, two plod sweeping, and one protecting them with his blue lights and notepad.
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I`m not sure that screenshot is exactly saying that there are blind spots there.
It seems to be talking about direct vision.
transportenvironment.org/si … n_HGVs.pdf
Here is a link to what I think is the same site.
edd1974:
Have noticed driving standards of what cars are about is getting worse.
People are getting use to less traffic so are taking more of a chance now.im finding
On the A31 from Dorchester heading home last evening, multiple cases of people overtaking on the single lane sections although I was doing 50mph. They all seem to favour long sweeping bends where they have no idea whats coming. The frightening thing was that they all appeared to be middle aged men in Audi’s, Bm’s and Mercs . Less traffic, more risks being taken it seems.
his little red car almost cuddling the front wheel of an artic
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These were the words used. Firstly surely any driver would be aware of an overtaking vehicle(s). If that vehicle was level with the front wheel of the artic then presumably it had taken a while to get to that point and should have been noticed by the lorry driver.
Secondly if the car was cuddling the front wheel then a quick glance down from the drivers window would have revealed the roof of a little red car which would mean it was not in a blindspot■■?
jakethesnake:
his little red car almost cuddling the front wheel of an artic
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These were the words used. Firstly surely any driver would be aware of an overtaking vehicle(s). If that vehicle was level with the front wheel of the artic then presumably it had taken a while to get to that point and should have been noticed by the lorry driver.
Secondly if the car was cuddling the front wheel then a quick glance down from the drivers window would have revealed the roof of a little red car which would mean it was not in a blindspot■■?
But if it was on the near side then he may not have seen it

I was on the opposite dual carriageway driving towards it. I couldn’t have stopped safely if I had wanted to. I didn’t want to as I was on my way to the cash and carry for more alcohol. When I came back there was just a car and a bloke sat looking at it, two plod sweeping, and one protecting them with his blue lights and notepad.
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I`m not sure that screenshot is exactly saying that there are blind spots there.
It seems to be talking about direct vision.
transportenvironment.org/si … n_HGVs.pdf
Here is a link to what I think is the same site.
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i think the observation that he is pointing out is that despite the holier than though pedantic perfect brigade,then every truck has a blind spot to some degree to the effect that a small car/organ donor on a bike entering it can remain in that position virtually unseen by the driver even if he is paying normal care and attention with only the grace of god,and wrong place/wrong time being the difference from some collisions irrespective of who the driver is.
obviously this observation does not include jakethesnakerowley101 and possibly but not limited to conor, ( to be fair,conor has somewhat mellowed recently so theres possibly hope for him now though im quite sure he will prove me wrong there).
personally its never happened to me though ive just in time seen a bit of someone sticking into my line of vision.
this does not include the countless victims ive carved up during the normal must make the boat practices as its tough ■■■■■ for them being in the wrong place at the wrong time. 
dieseldog999:
I was on the opposite dual carriageway driving towards it. I couldn’t have stopped safely if I had wanted to. I didn’t want to as I was on my way to the cash and carry for more alcohol. When I came back there was just a car and a bloke sat looking at it, two plod sweeping, and one protecting them with his blue lights and notepad.
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I`m not sure that screenshot is exactly saying that there are blind spots there.
It seems to be talking about direct vision.
transportenvironment.org/si … n_HGVs.pdf
Here is a link to what I think is the same site.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
i think the observation that he is pointing out is that despite the holier than though pedantic perfect brigade,then every truck has a blind spot to some degree to the effect that a small car/organ donor on a bike entering it can remain in that position virtually unseen by the driver even if he is paying normal care and attention with only the grace of god,and wrong place/wrong time being the difference from some collisions irrespective of who the driver is.
obviously this observation does not include jakethesnakerowley101 and possibly but not limited to conor, ( to be fair,conor has somewhat mellowed recently so theres possibly hope for him now though im quite sure he will prove me wrong there).
personally its never happened to me though ive just in time seen a bit of someone sticking into my line of vision.
this does not include the countless victims ive carved up during the normal must make the boat practices as its tough ■■■■■ for them being in the wrong place at the wrong time. 
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Most newer trucks have mirrors plastered all over them. If you make a little effort, and check them all, then there aren`t really many blind spots. And anyone paying attention should be aware of a car entering any blind spot there is.
It does mean taking your eyes off the phone screen sometimes, but…tough.