Lol another joke from the condims increase in the min wage to £7 ph by 2015, but by then the living costs will have sored to even higher than they are now, should be £10 by 2015, the humbug employers are humming and yeeharring about it, saying that it will make more unemployed , could that be because they are employing more people only because the government are subsidising their wage bills in WTC ect
Good as it will reveal a more acurate figure of unemployed in the uk, and how there are too many people and not enough jobs , oh and how this lot are in nothing together with us
Perhaps they should abolish zero or very low hour contracts and get people into real full time jobs instead of pretend ones. Sign it’s election time soon.
Oh yeah more billy bull shine spread around by your politicians come election time than in any RCD waiting room or MMTM thread on here, although some come close,lol
Let’s have a new minimum wage based on the real rate of inflation these past 6 years - ie around 7% per year…
This would have it go up to around £10ph.
If employers cannot afford that, then perhaps the bosses should consider not replacing that new jag, or booking that holiday to barbados as per usual.
I’m sick of people clearly “considerbaly richar than yauoo” wringing their hands, laying people off because it looks like the firm are now only going to make 9 million this year instead of 10 million.
ROG:
Either the employers need to put up wages or the taxpayer keeps paying out working tax credit and other benefits to those who are actually working
Too much emphasis is put on those not working at all when a greater amount in benefits are paid to those the Govt says are in work
FTFY! It’s OUR money the Government splash around…
mac12:
Will it make any difference to drivers there are already loads on less than NMW
We had a thread on here not that long ago on wages,and the vast majority said they were on £10/12 p.h,it was only me and a few others who were on £7 ph( near m.w level), so I’m not sure how you come to the conclusion that loads of drivers are on less than the nmw
mac12:
Will it make any difference to drivers there are already loads on less than NMW
We had a thread on here not that long ago on wages,and the vast majority said they were on £10/12 p.h,it was only me and a few others who were on £7 ph( near m.w level), so I’m not sure how you come to the conclusion that loads of drivers are on less than the nmw
I’d imagine he was referring to those on a salary for a fixed number of hours and then routinely exceed those hours thus giving a “real” wage of below the NMW.
mac12:
Will it make any difference to drivers there are already loads on less than NMW
We had a thread on here not that long ago on wages,and the vast majority said they were on £10/12 p.h,it was only me and a few others who were on £7 ph( near m.w level), so I’m not sure how you come to the conclusion that loads of drivers are on less than the nmw
I’d imagine he was referring to those on a salary for a fixed number of hours and then routinely exceed those hours thus giving a “real” wage of below the NMW.
I was there was a job on here not long ago that if you worked max hours for the salary offered it worked out at £5.70 per hour well below NMW
mac12:
Will it make any difference to drivers there are already loads on less than NMW
We had a thread on here not that long ago on wages,and the vast majority said they were on £10/12 p.h,it was only me and a few others who were on £7 ph( near m.w level), so I’m not sure how you come to the conclusion that loads of drivers are on less than the nmw
I’d imagine he was referring to those on a salary for a fixed number of hours and then routinely exceed those hours thus giving a “real” wage of below the NMW.
I was there was a job on here not long ago that if you worked max hours for the salary offered it worked out at £5.70 per hour well below NMW
It keeps getting re advertised ,i wonder why, perhaphs they can’t find someone mug enough to work for the crap wage on offer, IMO they don’t deserve to
Too little, too late. It won’t save the Tories in 2015.
All the “if” at present is about “if” Milliband gets an outright majority, or is forced to deal with Cleggy.
The clever money is still predicting that the Libdems will have the third most number of seats after the 2015 election, even though so many hope that Ukip will at least get into that third place slot.
If the smart money says “it ain’t gonna happen”, then it’s usually right alas.
If Osbourne really wanted to save his bacon at the polls, he’d come up with some true reform that takes his party in a new direction, like Blair did with “old labour” into “new labour”. Moan what you may, but the fact still remains that Blair won as many elections on the spin as Thatcher, and left his party unbeaten at the polls like Thatcher too.
Osbourne could SCRAP tax offsets for those already in receipt of the cut in higher rate taxes, LEVY the banks for peddling their wares in this country, and SEIZE money made in this country that’s been moved abroad - for tax evasion purposes. It’s about time the SFO and the Treasury set up a black ops financial squad to get back the loot shifted overseas by our corrupt elite over the years.
Last time I looked, there were less than 40,000 millionaires in this country. A policy that alienated every damned one of them (but they still have to pay!) and won the votes of MILLIONS of working people who’ve never voted Tory before would get the current Tory party back to the dictatorate that they held throughout the 80’s.
It’s their call, - not ours.
Personally, I reckon Osbourne won’t go for it, just hoping to limp in here and there with partially popularist policies like today’s £7ph NMW argument. Big deal. That’s not a game changer.
If he thinks he’ll take over the leadership from an ousted Cameron after losing in 2015, he’s dreaming. He’ll be taken out and shot just the same. Them two really are ‘in it together’.
The best chance of Cleggy not being head of the “third biggest party”, will be if he’s still there to be quite frank. He’s making the LibDems as popular at the ballot box as a rattlesnake in a lucky dip right now.
Winseer:
Too little, too late. It won’t save the Tories in 2015.
All the “if” at present is about “if” Milliband gets an outright majority, or is forced to deal with Cleggy.
The clever money is still predicting that the Libdems will have the third most number of seats after the 2015 election, even though so many hope that Ukip will at least get into that third place slot.
If the smart money says “it ain’t gonna happen”, then it’s usually right alas.
If Osbourne really wanted to save his bacon at the polls, he’d come up with some true reform that takes his party in a new direction, like Blair did with “old labour” into “new labour”. Moan what you may, but the fact still remains that Blair won as many elections on the spin as Thatcher, and left his party unbeaten at the polls like Thatcher too.
Osbourne could SCRAP tax offsets for those already in receipt of the cut in higher rate taxes, LEVY the banks for peddling their wares in this country, and SEIZE money made in this country that’s been moved abroad - for tax evasion purposes. It’s about time the SFO and the Treasury set up a black ops financial squad to get back the loot shifted overseas by our corrupt elite over the years.
Last time I looked, there were less than 40,000 millionaires in this country. A policy that alienated every damned one of them (but they still have to pay!) and won the votes of MILLIONS of working people who’ve never voted Tory before would get the current Tory party back to the dictatorate that they held throughout the 80’s.
It’s their call, - not ours.
Personally, I reckon Osbourne won’t go for it, just hoping to limp in here and there with partially popularist policies like today’s £7ph NMW argument. Big deal. That’s not a game changer.
If he thinks he’ll take over the leadership from an ousted Cameron after losing in 2015, he’s dreaming. He’ll be taken out and shot just the same. Them two really are ‘in it together’.
The best chance of Cleggy not being head of the “third biggest party”, will be if he’s still there to be quite frank. He’s making the LibDems as popular at the ballot box as a rattlesnake in a lucky dip right now.
Winseer, just for the record I think the Tories will get back in…with a clear majority. As long as Labour have that gormless Ed Milliband and his daft policies Camerons a shoo in. Every month Milliband comes out with a real own goal. He says hell freeze utility bills for two years…so they immediately increase the current (!)prices, (never saw that coming eh?) to get their money while they can. His latest wheeze is to restrict the size of banks and oversee their operations…sending the share price south and hitting investors and pension funds and putting in jeopardy the sale of RBS and Lloyds, just when things are looking up.
The mans a gawp and he needs to be got rid of.
cheekymonkey:
Every month Milliband comes out with a real own goal. He says he`ll freeze utility bills for two years…so they immediately increase the current (!)prices, (never saw that coming eh?) to get their money while they can.
Let’s face it - they’ve all got serious things wrong with them. Cleggy is the nearest to an “old fashioned” politician, because he just breaks his promises. Osbourne? - Never been poor in his life - how can he deal with the masses that will never have a pot to ■■■■ in? - Cameron? - Ditto. Milliband? - Talks funny, married his woman a bit late in the day, wears a red tie. At least what he’s said and done so far has only proved to be an own goal because he invites crooks everywhere to run rings around him. Farage? - What can he ever achieve, even if he’s lucky enough to get Clegg’s current job… Any attempt to bring the referendum forward to Autumn 2015 as part of a “coalition agreement” will just not happen. The party with the most seats will most likely go it alone, and get vetoed on everything they attempt to get through the commons.
We’re stuck with perpetual hung parliaments I reckon, until one party breaks out, and actually does something different that can be recognised as a TRUE “reform” in society.
We get the government we deserve. The population of the UK has changed thanks to immigration, and now it stands to us “old crowd” folk to try and find a way to profit from it, lest we be destroyed by it.
I suppose that Gorgeous George will give not a single thought to those of us who are on the basic state pension, having given fifty years to the British economy, mostly for wages that a bloke in any other industry would laugh at?
Bitter? Me? What makes you think that?
