So if you have a beavertail transit size recovery vehicle that is 3.5t gvw & use predominantly for hire & reward work , car transport & light haulage , is a tachograph & operators licence required ?
Just found link on dvsa that says if it is over 1525kg unladen then a licence is needed
I wondered about this because I was thinking about doing hire and reward at weekends as a sideline but as you’ve found out it all seems to have become official these days.
Has been a requirement to have an o licence and tacho on over 1525kg unladen for a long time, and any recovery flat bed under that weight wouldnt be able to carry much more than on old mini, only exception was carrying vehicles that are brokedown for repair (and no removing the plug leads wasnt included in that!!) but that has been clamped down on, I had to have tachos in my old fleet of shoguns pulling trailers on repo work, but they didnt need to be on our o licence but our transit did along with the 3 car Iveco
I used to do this, with a 3.5 tonner, and frankly it is impossible to operate within the law without getting an O licence and a bigger vehicle. Your average modern car say a Focus will put the majority of 3.5 ton transporters overweight.
kemaro:
Just found link on dvsa that says if it is over 1525kg unladen then a licence is needed
It also quotes: (where there is no plated weight)
I don’t agree that an ‘O’ licence or tacho would be required for the vehicle described in the first post.
A Transit would normally have a manufacturers plate giving GVW of 3.5t
And getting an ‘O’ licence won’t help when you stick that Focus on the back and overload it!!!
kemaro:
So if you have a beavertail transit size recovery vehicle that is 3.5t gvw & use predominantly for hire & reward work , car transport & light haulage , is a tachograph & operators licence required ?
Yes both required ,however there does seem to be a lot of 3.5 tonne gross pulling trailers moving 2 cars that don’t have the operators licence I don’t know how they get away with it ?
Punchy Dan:
kemaro:
So if you have a beavertail transit size recovery vehicle that is 3.5t gvw & use predominantly for hire & reward work , car transport & light haulage , is a tachograph & operators licence required ?Yes both required ,however there does seem to be a lot of 3.5 tonne gross pulling trailers moving 2 cars that don’t have the operators licence I don’t know how they get away with it ?
Why do you say both required? The vehicle is a 3.5t
Surely the vehicles you see ‘getting away’ with it are actually not required to have an ‘O’ licence and aren’t ‘getting away’ with anything.
?edit sorry m8 just read it again .
I did once read that 3.5 tonne recovery vehicles can uprate to the gross axle weights with out the need for tacho or olicence .
Punchy Dan:
I did once read that 3.5 tonne recovery vehicles can uprate to the gross axle weights with out the need for tacho or olicence .
Specialist recovery vehicles are usually exempt ‘O’ licence and also Tacho up to 100k radius no matter their size.
Is there a difference between moving a broken down car from a garage or the road side and moving a new car to or from a dealer which is say for example not taxed or insured ect with regard to any exemptions ?
Punchy Dan:
Is there a difference between moving a broken down car from a garage or the road side and moving a new car to or from a dealer which is say for example not taxed or insured ect with regard to any exemptions ?
Yes. The exemptions that may app,y for recover apply for ‘disabled’ vehicles only. If the vehicle is a working vehicle (I.e not disabled by accident or breakdown) being delivered etc then it’s just like delivering goods. Of course DVSA aren’t going to know whether a car won’t start or not 