Got a phone call today from the people who run our race series. Basically they are importing 4 units and trailers from France and Italy to the UK. I think what they are doing is bringing the catering and parts operation from those countries to run alongside the admin operation in the UK.
- What do they have to do to re-registar and plate the vehicles in the UK?
From what I remember with the trailer we got from Germany we had to get the trailer tested and take all the German paperwork to get it registared in the UK.
But I told them to contact VOSA. To which I got the answer “who?” So then I said have you got an operators licence, to which they replied “a What?”
I’ve sent them an email with all the information I could remember when we got our O licence and what we have to do to comply with it.
However this leads me to my second question.
- Could we run thier vehicles, even though they own them?
Obviously we’d need to change from a restricted to international licence. (not major problem) and we also have an operating centre capable of handling the extra trucks and trailers. Which from what I understand they don’t.
The only other problem is who will be driving the vehicles as I believe the person named on the licence has to employ them. At present it’s the chefs and parts man,who are employed by the race organisation, but as they are French and Italian. I reckon they might go down the F1 route and use agency drivers who get the trucks to the circuit and are then flown home and therefore we could employ them.
muckles:
Got a phone call today from the people who run our race series. Basically they are importing 4 units and trailers from France and Italy to the UK. I think what they are doing is bringing the catering and parts operation from those countries to run alongside the admin operation in the UK.
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What do they have to do to re-registar and plate the vehicles in the UK?
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Could we run thier vehicles, even though they own them?
Can’t believe there has been over 70 views and no replies, 
maybe I didn’t make it clear that I wanted some advice.
Anybody help on the 2 questions above?
I reckon you would only need a restricted licence as it is not hire or reward using the following criteria.
A Restricted Operators Licence - to operate vehicles within the EEC as long as you are only carrying your own goods. The main advantage of this type of licence is that there is no requirement to employ a transport manager with a CPC (Certificate of Professional Competence) and the financial resources that need to be in place are less. However as the operator must maintain the same standards as an unrestricted licence holder it is advisable to have access to professional advice.
I also think that you can use the trailers for up to a year without a retest or without changing marker signs but you will need the test papers from Italy and France.
To reregister the trucks I am not sure whether you can do all that with DVLA as a paper exercise before taking them for a normal VOSA test.
These are only ideas in my own head, fueled by Smirnoff
Wheel Nut:
I reckon you would only need a restricted licence as it is not hire or reward using the following criteria.
A Restricted Operators Licence - to operate vehicles within the EEC as long as you are only carrying your own goods. The main advantage of this type of licence is that there is no requirement to employ a transport manager with a CPC (Certificate of Professional Competence) and the financial resources that need to be in place are less. However as the operator must maintain the same standards as an unrestricted licence holder it is advisable to have access to professional advice.
I also think that you can use the trailers for up to a year without a retest or without changing marker signs but you will need the test papers from Italy and France.
To reregister the trucks I am not sure whether you can do all that with DVLA as a paper exercise before taking them for a normal VOSA test.
These are only ideas in my own head, fueled by Smirnoff
Not so sure about the restricted licence, we have one for our truck as it carries our cars and equipment, but we’d be taking another companies equipment, so reckon we’d need an International licence. However I reckon they’ll end up running the operation themselves, which is a bit worring when they’d never heard of VOSA or an Operators licence.
It’s only my idea that we could run the operation, mainly because I’d like to extend the scope of my job. I just wasn’t sure how we’d stand with them still owning the trucks and equipment if we were to run it.
muckles:
muckles:
Got a phone call today from the people who run our race series. Basically they are importing 4 units and trailers from France and Italy to the UK. I think what they are doing is bringing the catering and parts operation from those countries to run alongside the admin operation in the UK.
-
What do they have to do to re-registar and plate the vehicles in the UK?
-
Could we run thier vehicles, even though they own them?
Can’t believe there has been over 70 views and no replies, maybe I didn’t make it clear that I wanted some advice.
Anybody help on the 2 questions above?
can we have some easier questions ? 
I’ve no idea about the first one 
and the second one could be a bit iffy
Check homologation rules !!!
Denis F:
can we have some easier questions ?
I’ve no idea about the first one and the second one could be a bit iffy
I didn’t think that it would stump so many on trucknet. Normally somebodys got an answer. In fact normally most people have an answer it just they tend to be different. 
Oh at the moment it’s all really theorectical, if anything does come of it then I’ll talk to VOSA and somebody also PM’d me with an offer of help so I’d take them up on that.
I’ve never known an F1 company use agency drivers, has something changed, the always used to be employed and would work the fuel jig or tyre changes.
Dieseldogsix:
I’ve never known an F1 company use agency drivers, has something changed, the always used to be employed and would work the fuel jig or tyre changes.
Things have changed in the last few years, Almost all the drivers of F1 trucks are employed by agencies or they are self employed, (or in the case of Brawn GP work for Stobarts)they get the trucks to the circuit, wash down, park and set up the equipment they then get flown home normally on Wednesday and fly back on Sunday. The agencies that they use do specialise in suppling truck drivers to motorsport and the drivers tend to have been round the motorsport circuit for years so know the job. The FIA also operate thier fleet of trucks in the same way.
Although the guys who do tyres and fuel etc in F1 still get called Truckie and most have HGV licences, this because they have come from lower formulas were the truck driver is still part of the team and still does jobs like tyres or fuel and work in the pit lane and also because they sometimes still drive between circuits or have to move trucks when they are back in the factory.