Stowed correctly, this bridge presents no problems…
Stowed Incorrectly however…
The particular HIAB lorry visible in both the “old” google earth shot above being parked in the same place as the one in the background in the BBC story - suggests that this is NOT the wagon that is involved - the driver probably lives there, or less likely perhaps - he’s doing work at that property that’s been going on longer than the time difference between the two shots…
Nice one… Leccy line too, very lucky escape for all.
Winseer does love a Google Street View image. 
Drove a HIAB truck for the first time today. Well, not actually a HIAB but a JMF, a brand I’d never heard of but a major builders’ merchant’s has taken on a job lot of them. To ‘stow’ it you have to lower it to the bed with the inner part down and the outer part pointing up, rather than straight, otherwise you get a beeper going off and the truck won’t do more than 5mph. I don’t see how that makes it more secure.
Hiab looks stowed to me on the top photo
Contraflow:
Winseer does love a Google Street View image.
Apparently. A Picture paints a thousand words. For that I am extremely grateful! 
IndigoJo:
Drove a HIAB truck for the first time today. Well, not actually a HIAB but a JMF, a brand I’d never heard of but a major builders’ merchant’s has taken on a job lot of them. To ‘stow’ it you have to lower it to the bed with the inner part down and the outer part pointing up, rather than straight, otherwise you get a beeper going off and the truck won’t do more than 5mph. I don’t see how that makes it more secure.
HMF - Jewson have them.
Because if the truck won’t do more than 5 mph you know something is wrong and you need to put it right. Stow the crane properly or make sure the legs are away correctly.
5mph, not likely to run down the road and hit a bridge with the crane up or cut someone in half with a leg out…
Kaistar:
IndigoJo:
Drove a HIAB truck for the first time today. Well, not actually a HIAB but a JMF, a brand I’d never heard of but a major builders’ merchant’s has taken on a job lot of them. To ‘stow’ it you have to lower it to the bed with the inner part down and the outer part pointing up, rather than straight, otherwise you get a beeper going off and the truck won’t do more than 5mph. I don’t see how that makes it more secure.HMF - Jewson have them.
Because if the truck won’t do more than 5 mph you know something is wrong and you need to put it right. Stow the crane properly or make sure the legs are away correctly.
5mph, not likely to run down the road and hit a bridge with the crane up or cut someone in half with a leg out…
Yeah, it was HMF. Had previously heard of HIAB, Palfinger, Fassi and Terex (which I trained on), but this was a new one to me.
What I meant was: why pointing the outer arm (the bit normally operated by switch 3) up makes it more secure than having it pointed straight down.
If i try to leave my crane off the truck bed,it automatically locks on the brakes via the Volvo broms brake so is immobilised. i suspect the truck in the news story will be an “independent” merchants vehicle, as all the blue chips have safety sensors all over the place for various functions, like preventing “short legging” i.e not extending the stabiliser leg out to max length, to get the vehicle closer to walls or fences for longer reach, which all builders demand on any delivery.
the maoster:
Contraflow:
Winseer does love a Google Street View image.Apparently. A Picture replaces a thousand words. For that I am extremely grateful!
… Fixed it for ya. 
One picture, or a thousand words however - I’ll still get moaned at. 
IndigoJo:
Yeah, it was HMF. Had previously heard of HIAB, Palfinger, Fassi and Terex (which I trained on), but this was a new one to me.What I meant was: why pointing the outer arm (the bit normally operated by switch 3) up makes it more secure than having it pointed straight down.
Knuckle up or down, makes no difference. It’s all down to how the rams are positioned and how much influence they have on the positioning of the individual sections of the crane.
On the HMF they are set up so that when fully detracted the crane sits at that strange angle, it’s just the way HMF decided they wanted it. That knuckle position makes no difference to how secure it is at all. If you want to secure it, strap it down.
The one to REALLY watch is if you get landed on an old school ATLAS (standing on platform with levers, not the remote ‘Terex’ ) set up where EVERYTHING is back to front. Up is down, left is right and the killer is that the slew on an Atlas is what HiAB, HMF & Palfinger use as grab, and the Atlas WILL let go of weight if you tell it to.
Kaistar:
Knuckle up or down, makes no difference. It’s all down to how the rams are positioned and how much influence they have on the positioning of the individual sections of the crane.
On the HMF they are set up so that when fully detracted the crane sits at that strange angle, it’s just the way HMF decided they wanted it. That knuckle position makes no difference to how secure it is at all. If you want to secure it, strap it down.The one to REALLY watch is if you get landed on an old school ATLAS (standing on platform with levers, not the remote ‘Terex’ ) set up where EVERYTHING is back to front. Up is down, left is right and the killer is that the slew on an Atlas is what HiAB, HMF & Palfinger use as grab, and the Atlas WILL let go of weight if you tell it to.
I can attest to this! 
Fair play to you Winseer, at least you took it in the spirit it was intended.
the maoster:
Fair play to you Winseer, at least you took it in the spirit it was intended.
Yup, and I’m trying to go “green” on other people’s hard drive space as well.
(Can’t be arsed to type pages and pages now I’m over the “quiet period” Jan-March)
This one was near me last year
Its all about having a routine when stowing. Crane and grab on deck, strap down brick-grab, left leg up and in , right leg up and in, cam locks set and pins engaged, remote off and stowed in cab, PTO off … keeping the knuckledragger…sorry, builder, waiting until you are ready to sign the paperwork and leave.
Doing anything other than following your set routine could result in leaving the legs out , or on older vehicles driving away with it up in the air.
Twoninety88:
keeping the knuckledragger…sorry, builder, waiting until you are ready to sign the paperwork and leave.
My personal routine is drop the last lift and get the grab back over the bed but still raised and disable the remote.
Get paperwork signed so he can go back to his business and leave me alone to do mine with no pressure to get it done quickly.
Each to their own, do whatever you are comfortable with but make it routine. If it looks like there is a chance of the customer leaving me to it and disappearing I usually come out with something like “Giz an autograph on this then mate, don’t need to come and find you again then…”
Same on building sites where you go to the site office and the agent points to a corner of the compound and tells you to drop 'em there.
Never had a problem with that kind approach anyway.
